BREAKING NEWS: FreeRepublic shutting down!

[EffieBlack]

Apparently they found that there was no longer any need for their services since a small but loud, persistent, ubiquitous sub-group of Democratic Underground has begun to do their work more efficiently and effectively than they could ever hoped to have done.

:sarcasm:

[PresidentObama]

1. No sarcasm needed. We really are doing all the work for them.

[desi]

15. But that was a nice post about our President Clinton

that you composed yesterday to counter the hateful rhetoric. Thank You K&R:toast:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4110544

K&R

[Deja Q]

35. Some who partake in the fun doesn't mean they don't recognize the fun for what it is.

Replace "fun" for a word more apropos...

:*

Oh, K&R too :D

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. I agree with you Kerry2008...seems that DU has formed a circle and opened fire on each other....sad

[INdemo]

82. Exactly.....

Especially within the last year..

[sofa king]

98. Eh, happens every four years.

We shout it out amongst ourselves because this is the one time every four years that we get to argue over the future and have a chance of seeing something actually happen.

Then, maybe as soon as two weeks from now, the dust will start to settle and we'll be able to amuse ourselves with the other guys.

[AlCzervik]

2. why talk about Clinton's junk there when you can read it here?

[autorank]

45. Mercer's impressive. Here's the balance the ticket needs.

That link is outstanding, btw.

Muffins

[Kucinich4America]

3. I gotta stop eating so much popcorn

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :beer:

[derby378]

20. What YOU need is one of these...

[HughMoran]

4. So cynical, so true!

:beer:

[Fridays Child]

5. Well said!

[mtnsnake]

6. Aint that the truth, Effie.

:thumbsup:

[Iceburg]

7. Luv yer posts Effie... Right to the point ! /nt

[RC]

8. I thought they had already set up shop here in DU.

I've seen posts from people with join dates as far back as 2002 that sound like freepers. Not only are we in danger of losing our country, but sometimes I think DU has gone over to the dark side also.

[NavyDavy]

78. not as long as this Dem lives and breaths i will take to the

streets, take up arms, whatever it takes to keep this country free from the evil that is repukeagains.....yayayayaaaaaaaa(my war cry)x( (my war face)

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

9. BREAKING NEWS: Republican Party shutting down.

Apparently they found that there was no longer any need for their services since Hillary Clinton will be more effective in staying the course on Bush administration policies than many of the Republican canidates.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

12. You just can't help yourself, can you?

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

17. I suppose not,

I would rather the war in Iraq not be an issue in the 2016 election.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

90. Thank you policypunk for being willing to speak the truth on one of these...

..."Democrats are the coolest, -let's follow our leaders" threads.

...Our democratic leaders continue to refuse holding OUR White House accountable. They continue to fund these wars against our will, and with OUR money. They enabled the down fall of our country. ...Many of us here have to start thinking about our country before our party.

With that said, I'll always vote for a corporate democrat over a corporate republican, because democrats don't hurt us as much as they're fleecing us.

[EffieBlack]

16. Exhibit A . . .

[sendero]

36. Bingo...

... Free Republic isn't the only repository of moronic people.

[AntiFascist]

44. More effective on Shadow Government policies...

but, shhhhhh!

[rateyes]

48. Good point. nt

[blue sky at night]

58. well said...

i really wish dems would pick up on this.......

[hfojvt]

71. I am not sure why I laughed so hard at that

because I fear that it's gonna be the sad truth. Hillary supporters don't care though. I am sure. "So what if Clinton is a centrist, if she wins?" Just like Bill and that list of the great things he did as President, two of them being "balance the budget", and "middle class tax cuts" - both traditional Republican talking points. Along with being tough on crime, ending welfare as we know it, and expanding free trade, Clinton was very successful at enacting Republican policies.

[CranialRectaLoopbak]

76. Yeah, let the bad times roll. God the 90's sucked.

[defendandprotect]

10. OK, DU --- start censoring yourself --- no criticism of Democrats -- !!

[HughMoran]

21. Point = missed

All or nothing reactions like this are funny :rofl:

[defendandprotect]

39. Point = missed

:rofl:

The thread is an "all or nothing" reaction to criticism . . .
criticism is legitimate ---
this website is about debate which is often criticism --
and this is probably one of about two dozen threads we've had like this ---

If you want to be honest about candidates and their positions, then you have to be open to criticism -- not fear it.

[tandot]

24. I expect valid criticisms from my fellow Democrats...I expect mudslinging from freepers

www.dictionary.com

crit·i·cism
–noun
1. the act of passing judgment as to the merits of anything.
2. the act of passing severe judgment; censure; faultfinding.
3. the act or art of analyzing and evaluating or judging the quality of a literary or artistic work, musical performance, art exhibit, dramatic production, etc.
4. a critical comment, article, or essay; critique.
5. any of various methods of studying texts or documents for the purpose of dating or reconstructing them, evaluating their authenticity, analyzing their content or style, etc.: historical criticism; literary criticism.
6. investigation of the text, origin, etc., of literary documents, esp. Biblical ones: textual criticism.


mud·sling·ing
-noun
an attempt to discredit one's competitor, opponent, etc., by malicious or scandalous attacks.

[RaleighNCDUer]

84. IOW, saying Clinton is a racist is mudslinging.

Saying Clinton would cynically use race as a wedge to gain political advantage is criticism.

[desi]

25. There is absolutely nothing wrong with valid criticism

of any Democrat, past or present. It is when supposed Democrats on this Democratic forum disseminate radical right wing talking points, smears, innuendo, and blatant outright lies that I see a problem. DU rules prevent me from pointing to posters here using same tactics but there were quite a few on the leading threads in the Home page yesterday and earlier today.

[defendandprotect]

40. Are you pointing to the DLC as "supposed Democrats" . . . ????? ?????

When discussing "supposed Democrats" who you suggest are picking up right wing talking points,
I wonder is this labeling that might be objected to under the complaints in your thread?

On the other hand, we do have co-option of the Democratic Party by the DLC, which is the corporate/GOP wing of the Democratic party. Are you pointing to that organization as "supposed Democrats" --- ??

Meanwhile, what I see on most threads is a great deal of back and forth with info coming in and an honest effort to make sense of what is being reported.

However, if what you are suggesting is happening here, then I think you have to address it thread by thread with your evidence for it.

[desi]

59. Oh the DLC boogey-man

Throw out the DLC to deflect from my points. I don't know nor do I care about the DLC but I have read that they have no official function or power in the party apparatus. IOW they are NOT any wing of the Democratic Party. My understanding is that they are a separate entity which may occupy a center-right position in the political spectrum. They matter not at all to me personally. Now for my opinion which I stated in my post about supposed Democrats and their repeating, thereby perpetuating, right-wing talking points, innuendo, smears, blatant lies, etc, etc. You should know that it is against DU rules to "call out" fellow members BUT I believe that I can give you a link where you will find said radical right wing trash.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4115575

[Roland99]

63. Don't know and don't care about the DLC???

good grief.

[kenfrequed]

96. Uhm

I don't consider DLC a logical fallacy in this discussion. Many of us are being accused of tearing down the party and "using GOP talking points." But to compare those of us on the left with Freepers is intellectually dishonest.

"throwing out the DLC" in an argument IS valid because it calls into question where Democrats stand on the issues. This is why I rarely ever post on personality crap: Affairs, haircuts, tearing up, or any of the other drek that the mainstream media seems to obsess about. I also don't typically "gush" over a candidate without good reason (a vote, a specific issue stance, something substantive).

The DLC is not irrelevant to the argument, they have been pushing a more corporate and less populist agenda within the party for decades, getting steadily more economically conservative in the 1990's. If we cannot criticize this here, percisely where are we supposed to discuss, argue, and yes, even scream at each other?

This is supposed to be Democratic Underground. Not Bluedoghouse.com nor Centristcheerleaders.com. We have to remember what this site has been and the spirit of resistance to the current illegal administration that played no small role in birthing this board. If we are to be honest Democrats we also have to call our own out when they support Bush policies.

To conflate critics within our party as being "like the Freepers" is probably the most heinous of accusations because these critics were speaking out in opposition to freepers while the more moderate elements of our part were willing to give bush breaks from late 2001 right up to and deep into the war in Iraq. For many of us digitized opposition isn't enough, I myself took part in a number of marches against the war.

[defendandprotect]

100. Maybe you had best learn something about the corporate-sponsored DLC --- ????

It is part of your party, you know ---

And, sadly, they do have an official function ---
and they have been seeking and funding "blue dogs" to run against liberals
and progressives in the Democratic party.

The Democratic "blue dogs" meet with the White House and the Republicans to discuss votes on issues --I believe the estimate is about 42/46 blue dogs?



And this ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

is what is the kind of stuff you are complaining about . . . ????

So, great. We didn't get campaign finance reform but we did get NAFTA. Have you checked lately how that's worked out? Not well. Not well at all. We've taken note of that.

I certainly don't agree with the author's slant on Clinton's sex life/impeachment and the idea that Clinton lost the election for Democrats. Rather, as we all know, Gore won the election --- he lost because of the corruption of the system.

But I do agree with how much we have lost with Clinton re NAFTA and other trade deals and the overturning of 60 years of guaranteed welfare benefits for the helpless.

Unless you think that all Democrats are brain dead, I can readily see that many Democrats would share the views --- not so nicely stated --- in that article.
There seemed to have been plenty of conversation about the article --- and the thread wasn't locked. I think DISCUSSION is the best way to handle this.

In fact, I note in one of the posts a complaint about your thread . . . !!!

Isn't this kind of thread against the DU rules?
---Do not accuse entire groups of people on Democratic Underground of being conservative disruptors, or post messages which spread this type of suspicion.

Can only hope that you WILL make the DLC some point of interest in the future and come back and let us know what you think about it ---

[mwb970]

69. Sadly, I had to stop reading the Progressive Daily Beacon.

PDB is a site I happened across about a year ago. I was so pleased by the links to solid information about bush administration criminals that I made it my "first site of the day." I even sent money!

A few weeks ago, the moderator apparently decided that Hillary is a much bigger threat to America than bush & co. He put up a vicious anti-Hillary screed worthy of any wingnut, including a highly biased smear of Bill that could have been written by a deranged member of his impeachment committee. Now 50-75% of his links are to right-wing-style anti-Hillary articles, which I frankly don't care to read.

Correspondence with the moderator confirmed that he hates the Clintons and will do whatever it takes to bring them down, joining the numerous right-wing sites that have been working on just that for decades. I told him "Sorry, goodbye."

[OzarkDem]

11. Yeah, they're all over here at DU now n/t

[SaveOurDemocracy]

13. Good one Effie ... k&r

[tandot]

14. Sometimes I have to double-check to make sure I am still on DU

The only thing that seems to distinguish FR from DU right now is the sh*tty design of the FR Website.

[no name no slogan]

18. It's called "Presidential Primary Season"-- get used to it

It's no worse than it was in 2004.

[Spiffarino]

66. I disagree

I was here then, too. It was rough, but nothing like the current freak show.

[sojourner]

19. I really think the Freeps have invaded here. There is no real room for discussion anymore.

It's spin, spin, spin --- as tho' we didn't get enough of that from the media

[KennedyGuy]

22. Yeah..Freepers are slightly to the left of some of the Obamanuts around here

[EffieBlack]

26. Exhibit B

[RC]

31. I thought that was the Clintonites that the freepers were to the left of.

[EffieBlack]

33. Exhibit C

[LandOLincoln]

23. Absolutely right, and Kos is only marginally better. I come here these

days mostly to get my adrenaline pumping so I can get some work done.

Oh yeah--a pox on all your houses.

[NavyDavy]

79. i used to like Crooks and Liars but they are becoming

the same way...

[rodeodance]

27. saddly, your observation is true.

[Renew Deal]

28. Freepers have something in common with a few DUers

They both want Hillary to win.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

34. I believe that makes you Exhibit D

[Renew Deal]

38. But does it make me wrong?

:shrug:

[NavyDavy]

80. yes it really does....

[Just-plain-Kathy]

94. Freepers don't want Hillary to win, but corporate America does.

...It’s naive to think that the criminals who stole the last two presidential elections will be willing to give up their power so easily. ...A corporate dem will win the GE in order to give us the illusion of honest free elections. ..Only a Bushie republican will make it to the GE...They’re stacking the deck.

[ruggerson]

29. Thank you

well done.

[Michigander4Dean]

30. Damn it! I was hopeful!

[Hieronymus]

32. You got that right ...

:eyes:

[ToeBot]

41. Welcome to the pile. nt

[no name no slogan]

42. Behold, the power of Lee L. Mercer Jr.

Lee L. Mercer Jr. has used the power of his Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence ( All Three ) to SHUT DOWN FREEPERVILLE.

This man deserves to be our next president.


MERCER '08

[shenmue]

43. That is the shittiest website ever.

:(

[autorank]

46. If you're going to have autrocious content, at least do it with style.

But their style matched their content.

[Patriot_4_Peace]

47. If you want them to look bad. Do it for Democracy

If want them to look bad thumb their entry into the Most Shameful Wikipedia Spin Jobs.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/08/vote-on-the-top.html#submit

[IndianaJones]

49. Obama enablers? nt.

[mojowork_n]

50. "Sub-group?" I think we're the majority.

Nice try, though, to turn the narrative.

Nobody's denying some great things happened during the 90's.

But it's not the 90's, anymore, and we don't need all that Old Business, to re-fight old battles that are better left forgotten.

[HughBeaumont]

51. Well, this was productive.

If a Democratic candidate supports job offshoring and free trade, believes the worst president this country's ever had when lives were on the line (twice, I might add), voted no on the Cluster Bomb bill, voted for the 2001 bankruptcy bill, does business with Indian offshoring conglomerates, thinks national security is more important than civil rights, GUESS WHAT??!?!? I'm going to raise some red flags and opposition. I kind of have this little thing about the candidate representing our party having a lot of less-than-democratic positions and votes on issues that matter.

Deal.

This doesn't make me a freeper and the accusation is possibly just as odious as some people's apparent "My Party, Right or Wrong" stances.

You seem to be forgetting that I'm one of these people that's fucking sick and tired of losing elections to shitty Republican candidates, such as the Fuhrer that's currently holding the White House hostage (FUCK YOU VERY MUCH, you scared bitch-ass American "security" voters).

We cannot fuck this up three times in a row, and we're sure as hell on the path of doing it ONCE again and nobody cares.

Nobody is entitled to a presidency, not even if your last name is Bush. We can't steal elections like they can; we don't have the money, power or complete lack of scruples or conscience. Our task is far too daunting and complicated to keep throwing it away by bringing candidates that don't take strong progressive STANDS on anything.

That is not being a freeper. That's being a concerned citizen of this country. Maybe somewhere along the way, taking a stand ceased to MEAN something. Now it seems everyone should just simply conform their needs to fit a mold in hopes of creating a party ideology that will impress people that would rather see you shipped off to a desert island than build bridges with you.

If you bring a candidate that seems to be completely clueless about the plight of the poor and middle class to the table; let's face it, you aren't going to reach them, they'll have no reason to vote for you, and voters against their own interests will put a bastard in the Oval office yet again.

Our votes shouldn't be expected. They should be EARNED.

[HughBeaumont]

52. So am I exhibit E or F?

:think:

[jeff30997]

53. Lol.I'm anxious to know too.

:popcorn:

[EffieBlack]

55. You tell me

If you think that you fit within the sub-group I described in my post, you would be Exhibit E. If you don't think you fit the description, you're not Exhibit anything.

Of course, if you don't think you fit the description, why are you falling all over yourself defending your actions?

[Catherine Vincent]

54. They are here!

How many times have we seen terms like Billary, Slick Willie, Cigar Bill, the witch etc? These are all terms used by freepers and right wingers.

[jzodda]

56. Few more weeks and this site will get sanity back most likely

once we have a nominee....Hopefully this does not go to convention as this place will implode eventually with raging hatred or there will be so many people on others ignore that rational discussion will no longer be possible

[Kokonoe]

57. WELCOME Ex Free Republic, choose good.

Contrasting the agony of the old with the peacefulness of the new, choose a new identity, cling to it like a life preserver. Reject your old belief system and pledge allegiance to a new one that is going to make your life better. I hereby formally welcome you into our community. You will now have a feeling of rebirth.

[Swagman]

60. no staying power... fraudsters couldn't handle the pace

[George II]

61. Great job...THANKS!!!

[bookman]

62. Why do we need Free Republic...

... when there is Fox News?

[Spiffarino]

64. Yep. Makes me cry.

I miss the old place.

[Zambero]

65. The Grim Reaper nabs the Freeper

Up next, a swift torpedo for the Swift Boaters

[Divine Discontent]

67. #1 - they like it here, the website is 100x cooler & the gift bags are ritzy!

#2 - it's campaign season, people's nerves are frazzled
#3 - ratcheting up heavy sarcasm, pointing out of the most glaring mistakes in a non-grostesque manner, and downright curtness from people is to be expected during the nominating process
#4 - being outright hateful to another poster, telling them to give it up and post elsewhere, calling them horribly cruel names, and having just a continual mean-spirited taste to one's posts are not cool.

[rAVES]

68. Well since the two Dem front runners are essentially Corporatist republican lights

I wouldn't be all that surprised...

[Perry Logan]

70. Explain why progressive groups give Obama and Hillary such high scores. I guess they're stupid, huh?

The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php

Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%

[rAVES]

73. the last time you cut and paste this I said the same thing Perry.. 80% on War and peace?

IWR, and following votes on War spending... just how in Christs name does that only give her a hit of 20% exactly? est 1 million dead Iraqis, over a million Refugees, 5 million Orphans, nearly 4,000 dead American kids.. ya 20% if you're a fucking Freeper...

Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% Patriot act, 1 and 2 ( Labor Rights 91%) lol, does this mean she will end the war on Drugs? end the flat out racist policy's in the US regarding criminality? you bet your arse that she will not.

Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% "Lobbyists are real Americans" plus all the money she raises by these people,
Sure, they expect nothing in return, thats exactly how Corporations work you see, they just chuck money at people willy-nilly with no thought to them ever having to pay them back..

Health care 98% !!! this is a fucking joke right? shes going to mandate people to buy into corporate Insurance, under the false as fuck Idea that it will drive premiums down.. thats about as bogus as Trickle down economics.

Labor Rights 91% We all look forward to her repealing NAFTA, right? might as well chuck Human rights and Civil Libs in here too..

[Kolesar]

72. 70 views and 47 recs for a post without a thesis, impressive!

:sarcasm:

[Josh]

74. It happened here in 2004, too. I think it's just presidential politics -

last time everyone basically rallied around Kerry afterwards and the shouting kinda stopped. We'll see.

[rAVES]

75. I'm sure that will happen again..

[amb123]

77. Here's the 2008 Democratic Primaries in a nutshell:

Clinton Supporters: "GIVE ME HILLARY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!
Obama Supporters: "GIVE ME OBAMA OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!
Edwards Supporters: "GIVE ME EDWARDS OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!
Kucinich Supporters: "GIVE ME KUCINICH OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!

If we keep talking like this, the DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL DIE in November.

[humbled_opinion]

81. Amazing post and so true

I have been an Edwards supporter since day 1 ... my second choice is Obama... but regardless if Hillary in the nominee I will somehow manage to get enthused... Thanks for the reality check

[unapatriciated]

83. yes I have seen post I don't agree with but....

some on here jump at the chance to call you a troll or a freeper if you dare to disagree with their candidate's policies. They love pointing out how new you are to DU, assuming because you are new here you are either a troll or a freeper. Some of us have been involved in politics since the 60's,without posting on DU. Not everyone who is a strong Democrat knows about DU. I like this board with all it's bickering (reminds me of my family), what I don't like is being called a troll or a freeper for a different point of view. That tells me something about the person using those terms. It tells me that they are closed minded and will not be able to support someone other than their candidate. That spells trouble for the Democratic party in the GE. If you think the mudslinging and swift boating was bad in the last two elections, you ain't seen noting yet. The Republican party knows they are in deep shit and will pull out all the stops to discredit whom ever we nominate. We are not the targets of their adds and talking points (never were). It is the new voter, the undecided voter and now the disillusioned republican voter. We need to pay attention to their talking points and counter their lies with truth. We need to learn to debate each other without name calling. You can support you candidate without denigrating your fellow Democrat.

[L0oniX]

85. Isn't this kind of thread against the DU rules?

---Do not accuse entire groups of people on Democratic Underground of being conservative disruptors, or post messages which spread this type of suspicion.

[ElboRuum]

92. Perhaps...

But primary time always puts the moderators into extra-strength Tylenol mode.

[midlife_mo_Jo]

86. Clinton's baggage comes with one of the candidates

It might not matter to you, but it sure as hell will matter if Hillary is the democratic nominee and loses.

[Flabbergasted]

87. kick

[D23MIURG23]

88. What a bunch of crap.

you got me all excited for nothing.

BTW Your sarcasm tag implies you are ridiculing the idea of DUers doing the freeps job for them. Hope you were clear on that.

[Red1]

89. Heck

Their easy to pick out, just look for exaggerated, vitriolic posts,

They can't help it, intelligent....steady.....well thought out comments on the liberal side of things just challengers the hell out of em, Jim Robinson sent them over to disrupt things here. An example would be the god haters, nothing subtle about these guys.......atheists have been around forever. (and personally I have no problem with that)BUT, when you get guys jumpin on everyday innocent statements like "Thank God...etc." with "Whats God got to do with it?"

Thems your rightys...no doubt in my mind. Hell leave em here...they are so obvious and the entertainment value is substantial

red1

[ElboRuum]

91. BREAKING NEWS: DU Found To Contain Humans!

Yes, today it was revealed that DUers can and do STRIDENTLY DISAGREE! Perhaps they are the free-thinkers they always thought they were.

[redqueen]

93. Heh.

:)

[Homer Wells]

95. AWWWW! Too Bad

They have always been such a great source of new words for us. I'm SERIES11!!11!

[bitchkitty]

97. Ewwww - I didn't see the sarcasm icon and I actually

went there to see for myself! :( I feel dirty, but it's like a trainwreck - sometimes you have to look!

[robertpaulsen]

99. BREAKING NEWS: Heston endorses Clinton/Obama ticket, declares afternoon in America, takes nap!

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[dajoki]

101. I think people are finally realizing...

that by bashing our own is counter productive. I keep saying that our only chance is to be COMPLETELY united against the Repubs. I am supporting Edwards, but will enthusiastically back our nominee, whoever that may be.