Obama just stupidly raised his expectations in SC

[sunonmars]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/20/politics/main3732961.shtml

Obama said Sunday that South Carolina's primary will be "absolutely critical" to his campaign.


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Why oh why, do you want to do that. He's just raised the expectation bar very very high. I mean I'm no Obama supporter but you don't say that when you have lost the last 2 primaries. Its like saying I'm in intensive care and this is my last shot to come out of the coma.

Has he just said, If Hillary comes even anywhere close next Saturday, I'm finished.

[OzarkDem]

1. Well, it will be

He's lost the last two primaries. If he can't turn out his base in SC in significant numbers, it will hurt him.

[AlCzervik]

2. well he's correct, i don't think he's raised expectation, i think he just told the truth.

[ursi]

36. presidential candidates telling the truth? how refreshing!

[Blue_In_AK]

3. He should say (like John Edwards) I'm in this to the finish. n/t

[Pirate Smile]

4. He just can't help saying things that are true. Maybe after a few more

decades in Washington it can kill his impulse towards honesty.

[THUNDER HANDS]

5. oh my god, he says the truth

that might be foreign to some hillary supporters. It means that he says what he honestly believes without spin.

[Pirate Smile]

11. His knee-jerk honesty does seem to be seen as a negative by some people.

We've seen a lot of distortions and lies up close lately and that seems to be more of their cup of tea.

[anamandujano]

35. Obama as president, how about this--

We're in Iraq until we get all their oil. We find that preferable to just paying them for it. The way our clueless citizens buy huge gas guzzlers, we must continue to supply them with what amounts to more than our share of the world's resources.

Well sure, our men are tired, they don't know what they're doing there, moral is at an all time low, some are on their 3rd or 4th tours. If they do come home, it's most likely in a coffin. I'll have my surrogates continue to give the widow and children a flag to cheer them up. If they go to a vet hospital, they will have to compete for limited resources.

To keep up the pace, we are thinking of starting up the draft again. That should give our National Guard and volunteer force a much needed rest, unless we go into Iran. We already keep track of high schoolers, so it won't really be that hard to initiate.

I always ask myself, "what would Reagan do?"

Don't get me started.

[AX10]

6. Hillary is not taking this thing lightly, she never has, never will.

Like it or not, the Clinton's take politics very seriously. That is what you need if you want to win in the political game field. Obama's arrogance from a single win in a small state shows that he is not ready to play with the "big boys". Anyone who thinks that a single primary win is going to determine their victory is ignorant of history. Just ask the pundits who claimed that Hillary was "finished" after a single loss. If you lose the first game in the season, you are FAR from "done with".

[jbnow]

24. His arrogance? You seeing it isn't him being it nt

[thunder rising]

27. And two wins for Hillary, the "I just want a second term" dem candidate in Red States

Certainly is not a game ending event either.

[cali]

30. You're right about one thing and one thing only: The Clintons

take politics very seriously. But you forgot to add what they've proved: there is nothing they won't do to win. No political trick to ugly or small or vile, that they won't go for

And in case you missed it, he's doing pretty well. Yeah, Iowa is a small state, but in case you didn't know, it's bigger than NH. And how the fuck do you know what he's thinking? You don't. He's not the arrogant one. The Clintons define arrogance and entitlement. I may end up having to vote for that person, but it'll be a sad day for me and this country. And I literally don't know one single person who supports her in my community.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. It's called being honest

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the phenomenon?

[papau]

8. Half the voters - blacks - are splitting 7 to 1 for Obama - it will be a hard race to lose unless

Hillary finds a way to remind black women that being female is also important - all in the next 7 days.

[Chovexani]

25. I don't think we need Hillary Clinton to tell us that.

:wtf:

[papau]

38. I don't believe I have heard her or her staff say anything about the problem - indeed they

have stayed out of the flames being thrown at her supporters that Obama supporters claim have "mis-spoke".

[Skwmom]

33. They are trying to convince blacks that Obama can't win.

[papau]

39. true - I believe that was part of pitch back in August - Iowa changed that of course.

[gaiilonfong]

9. Because he isn't a LIAR like the CLINTONS

It is about time a politician tells the truth!

[ronnykmarshall]

42. When you say liar ..

Doesn't that apply to saying you're a white male in one thread and a gay latino in another?

Just askin!

[Alexander]

44. Actually a person can be of two different races...

You mean you've never heard of Barack Obama?

:rofl: :rofl:

[sunonmars]

10. Honesty has its place but i think he just issued his final call to war

When you say that its like, this is it, its basically the political equivalent of a poker games I'm all in.

[Ian David]

12. Obama has not lost ANY primaries.

There is no winner or loser in a primary or a caucus.

They only decide who gets how many delegates awarded to them. And in the case of Michigan, it wasn't even a "binding" primary.

Nobody has ever won or lost a Primary.

[MagsDem]

18. LOL -- talk about being in denial (n/t)

[Ian David]

26. LOL-- Talk about not understanding the process!

Not that I WANT Obama to win the nomination.

He's not my favorite.

My preference, in order, is Kucinich, Edwards, Obama, Clinton, Gravel, Paul, Biden, Sharkey.

With Obama having a SLIGHT edge over Clinton.

[Renew Deal]

40. Which Primary has Hillary gotten more Delegates?

And BTW, Michigan didn't count.

[sunonmars]

13. Who knew this, Mrs Jesse Jackson backs Clinton

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-ap-il-obama-jackson,1,4122247.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

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Jesse Jackson, who tried to become the first black president in his 1984 and 1988 campaigns, and his son, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., are backing Obama. The elder Jackson's wife, Jacqueline, supports Clinton.

[Mz Pip]

14. He should just low ball it.

Question the validity of the set up, argue about how the polling places disenfrachize his supporters, then tout how he exceeded all expectaions when he wins.

Mz Pip

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. That's "smart" politics

Clinton politics!

It's a winner!

:evilgrin:

[smalll]

15. That's what comes from being inexperienced -

I don't dislike Obama, but this just proves to me again not only is he too inexperienced to be President, but also is he too inexperienced to be our nominee. You can't blithely go around saying things like that if you hope to survive all the way up until November, and then win.

[jbnow]

29. His wife said worse about Iowa if you recall

worked out OK,but wasn't a good start

He can say it blithely or tersely or conversationally or musingly pr philosophically or humorously and still survive and then win.

[AGirl]

16. It seems that Obama has a ego problem, all politicians suffer from it.

[MagsDem]

17. Because he is inexperienced

Just like so many have been saying here for so long, which is why he shouldn't be the nominee. Look at how he whines and whines about the Clinton's. No way is he going to be able to stand up to a republican in the general. He and his people are the biggest whiners I have ever seen in politics, even on a local level. I can't believe he got this far. Well, then again, yes I can -- he's a pure media creation.

[thunder rising]

20. What a Freeper point to make ... how disingenuous and wedging ... certainly Hillary quality

[gdaerin]

21. Yeah, I don't mind that he said this

I think he's right, and I think it might help him get his supporters out to vote.

Does anybody know what kind of electronic voting systems they use in SC?

[sunonmars]

23. Touchscreen from what i know

[rodeodance]

22. and it made a Headline in LBN

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3148691

[JackORoses]

28. It's called being honest

We know it's a rare thing in Hillaryland.

Don't be afraid, the truth will set you free.

[madrchsod]

31. he told the truth

after he loses in south carolina he concede to the inevitable that all americans will face in our future....

it will be a repeat of the 90`s

[FrenchieCat]

32. Stupid? Wow.

You have earned yourself a place in my growing list of "ignored". Welcome!

[sunonmars]

34. Thank god, i was hoping not to read anymore propoganda from you.

[Unsane]

37. What does a SC win mean? What super tuesday states will flip for him as a result?

Georgia, Tennessee? Thats the real question.

[BootinUp]

41. Hes trying to get his supporters fired up. nt

[loveangelc]

43. he'll win sc.

[dionysus]

45. sunonmars just stupidly posted more bullshit

[robbedvoter]

46. It's a fact though. he loses, he's officially done. he wins - he has a chance.