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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:45 PM
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Obama attacking Bill Clinton will not play well in WHITE OR LATINO America
Whoever is advising him that attacking Bill Clinton personally will be productive is fucking out of his mind. The "Jacksonization" of his candidacy is now complete with this petty cry-baby whining about Bill being "troubling." He will now be seen as a black nationalist candidate crying racism and victimization at every turn.

Any chances he had of winning the nomination is now history.

He may win a few primaries with 90% of the black vote in a few southern states but all that amounts to is Jesse Jackson redux from 1984 and 1988.

Obama is finished.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:46 PM
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1. Amen!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:47 PM
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2. But, white people who don't for Obama are racists, or didn't you get that memo.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:58 PM
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22. GROSS
WOW you're fucking ignorant. WHO SAID WHITE PEOPLE WHO DON'T VOTE FOR OBAMA ARE RACISTS?? WHO SAID THAT? No one did, can you quit igniting the flames? You're fucking disgusting.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:08 PM
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34. Gross? Your momma!
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:47 PM
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3. Hillary will not win the general election.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:49 PM
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6. The women are coming out in droves to vote for her, nice try though. A for effort.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:48 PM
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4. So people are allowed to lie, distort
... are you a Fox News viewer, by the way.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:31 PM
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38. It's "too personal" to question Obama's integrity on the war?
I have a question:
What did Obama do to try to stop the war in 2002?
What did Obama do to try to stop the war in 2003?
What did Obama do to try to stop the war in 2004?
What did Obama do to try to stop the war in 2005? (He voted for more war funds)
What did Obama do to try to stop the war in 2006? (He voted for more war funds)
What did Obama do to try to stop the war in 2007? (He voted for more war funds)
Is it enough to say "I was against the war" and give a few speeches about it?
Why didn't Senator Obama use the filibuster? He claims he wanted to stop the war, but not enough to stand up?

And to Senator Dick Durbin ""I’m really troubled by his questioning the sincerity of Obama’s opposition to the war. Obama has been there from the start, opposing this war." put a sock in it, Dick. No one's been quicker to apologize under GOP pressure than you...

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:08 PM
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39. As to Bill's charges re the casino voting. the Las Vegas Sun confirmed
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:49 PM
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5. I think he'll lose some black support too.
Especially from the older A-A community. The ones who know what Bill did for them.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:49 PM
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7. White America?

What is that exactly?
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:06 PM
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32. The entire human race originated in AFRICA's olduvai gorge
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 07:09 PM by dugggy
So we are ALL Africans in a sense. White Africans, Yellow Africans, Brown
Africans, Black Africans....depending on which climate your ancestors migrated to.
you get the point. Human Genome science has proven that all humans share a common ancestor.

Actually Barack Obama and Dick Cheney are blood relatives on Barack's mother's
side LOL
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:09 PM
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35. Race...

...is a social construct, nothing more.
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:45 PM
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42. Well...there are also distinct differences in appearance and
body structure. All result of evolution and adapting to the climate
and conditions where your ancestors lived. Just like dogs all look
different but they all descended from the same wolf species.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:50 PM
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8. So instead he should just let BC's lies stand. Yea, not happening.
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:50 PM
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9. What did Obama say?
What did he say about Bill?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:50 PM
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10. I don't think Obama is going to use race
to attack Clinton.Sounds like he's going after him for campaigning for Hillary.I don't see how his white supporters turn away from him for that,they seem just as angry about it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:54 PM
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16. A husband supporting his wife is troubling for Obama?
So if his able wife runs for the Senate, he WON'T campaign for her?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:56 PM
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19. Hey,it's not me arguing that Big Dog should stay
home and cook supper!I'm just saying,if he doesn't bring up race on GMA,it's probably not going to turn white people away in droves.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:57 PM
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20. finally
finally a sane post.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:51 PM
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11. Fanboy
Blah blah blah
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:53 PM
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13. What did he say?
Anybody?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:52 PM
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12. Criticism and argument are not "attacking."
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 06:53 PM by ocelot
So why can't he criticize Bill, especially since Bill is being kind of a dick and could use a little criticism? Bill has injected himself into the campaign with both feet, so he's fair game. And it's just ridiculous to suggest that criticizing Bill makes Obama look like some kind of radical black nationalist. It's maybe even a wee bit racist.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:55 PM
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17. "Injected himself"?
You feel he should be baking cookies?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:57 PM
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21. He's taking an active part in the campaign, and there's nothing wrong with that.
But especially considering he's a former President, he should not be immune from criticism for what he does to promote that campaign.
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:53 PM
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14. Leave it to a Hillary supporter to yet AGAIN inject race into the situation
Good job. I'm sure she'd be proud of you.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:54 PM
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15. So Blowhard Bill can bloviate to his heart's content and not be called on it?
Are the Republicans supposed to stay quiet, too, in the general? As if...

It's good practice for the ex-President turned hack to be criticized. If his wife gets the nomination, he won't be treated with kid gloves anymore. Might as well get used to it now.
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:55 PM
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18. For cryin out loud
What dids he say?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:58 PM
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23. He said nothing
It's all a fairy tale.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:58 PM
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24. Herman- I Love You Like A Brother But This Isn't Helpful
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:59 PM
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25. Another one who thinks there are no black Latinos
Not every Latino is Mexican, just so you know.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:59 PM
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26. Neither will it play well in the black community (the over 18)
Clinton has bona fides with the black community - based on deeds not speeches.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:00 PM
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27. YAWN
RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE HILLARY RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE RACE HILLARY RACE RACE RACE, thats pretty much all i've heard from hill supporters.
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:00 PM
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28. And having a Clinton Pollster get up on TV and say that
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 07:02 PM by NJObamaWoman
Latinos WONT vote for a BLACK MAN is going to play well with black people? HRC and some of her supporters might want to trash the black vote in hopes of keeping Latino vote but it will all come back to HRC sooner or later.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:04 PM
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29. That was no trash of the black voter.
Clinton's pollster was asked why Obama was having trouble getting the latino vote,he answered as delicately as he could.One of the biggest Obama supporters on this site said the very same thing,is he racist?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:04 PM
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30. black nationalist?
:rofl: priceless! clueless, but priceless. then again, you were talking about white americans.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:05 PM
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31. Ah, Herman Munster...Like Clockwork
On a fairly warped clock. Is there nothing you won't throw to the wall to see if it will stick?

:yourock:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:07 PM
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33. You always come out Herman, playing the race card, and saying that Obama can't hit back
These people have been attacking him since Iowa.He has to fight back, and I don't think races have anything to do with it.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:09 PM
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36. hah
You really are a "munster".
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RIindependent Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:18 PM
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37. I listened to Obama’s words and heard nothing.
I was a hippie, had a draft card (burned it), watched the 1968 demo convention and listened to the words “the whole world is watching”, went for my draft physical on june 6, 1968 (the day Bobby died), voted for McGovern in 1972 (I was old enough to vote), could not believe a B grade actor was elected, I was part of a recession (ray guns), Bill came and gave me hope (bye, bye miss American pie, drove my chevy to the levy …….), then junior (what a mess!).
Obama’s message does not resonate.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:15 PM
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40. Some of you people on here act like the Clinton's are GOD or something of course he can...
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 08:15 PM by bigdarryl
attack them when they lie about his record what do you think he's supposed to do sit back and say well there the Clinton's so i can't say anything give me a fucking break
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:17 PM
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41. Quit it with the race talk
:wtf:
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