Hillary and her Kind words to Anti-Gay supporter Reverand Harold Mayberry

[MadBadger]

Like most religious opponents of same-sex marriage, the Rev. Harold Mayberry, pastor of the First African Methodist Church in Oakland, has preached against homosexuality to his congregation of 2,800.

However, he does not think a federal amendment is necessary. The scriptures direct people how to lead a moral life, he said.

"I'm comfortable in what I believe in," Mayberry said. "I'm not rejecting people. As God loves, we love. I don't reject thieves, I reject thievery.''

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/03/14/MNGJB5KB9N1.DTL&type=printable

http://mydd.com/story/2007/10/24/162436/74

But just this past August, Hillary Clinton met with Mayberry and thanked him for his "commitment to fighting for civil rights and equality."

Hillary Clinton Meets with Bay Area African-American Ministers and Community Leaders
More than 60 Ministers and Community Leaders Meet to Discuss Urban Policy Issues
On Friday, August, 10, Senator Hillary Clinton stopped by the African American Art and Culture Complex for a meeting with Bay Area African-American ministers and community leaders.

"I thank all the leaders whom I met with for their contributions to our country and their commitment to fighting for civil rights and equality," said Clinton. "As President, I will partner with African-American leaders to ensure that the promise of America is realized."

The afternoon meeting, organized by Reverend Amos Brown of Third Baptist of San Francisco and Pastor Clarence Johnson of Mills Grove Christian Church, was an opportunity for African-American leaders to hear directly from Hillary Clinton on the issues that affect their community.

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"Senator Clinton has an excellent concept about how she plans to address issues surrounding crime and education. She described how she has partnered with leaders in New York to create a charter school specifically for African American men and notes that the Allen Cathedral AME Church charter school in Jamaica Queens, New York could be used as a model of how to help educate African American young men. Her mentioning of the school shows that she's aware of outstanding successful examples of education in this country. The way she addressed the need for the federal government to partner with inner cities suggests that she's not just focusing on international issues but that she's concerned with domestic ones - particularly crime and violence in our communities. I want a president who knows how to strike a balance between addressing international and domestic challenges facing this country," said Reverend Dr. Harold R. Mayberry, Senior Pastor of First African Methodist Episcopal Church and Chairperson of Network for Interfaith Action.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=2857

[fightthegoodfightnow]

1. Disappointing

.......... and just as disappointing that Obama pandered to the same audience.

I prefer to stand with a host of black civil rights leaders who know none of us are free until ALL of us are free.

[Solon]

2. So both candidates suck ass and don't give a shit about GLBT people...

this is a surprise? Not supporting either one. Nice attempt at a deflection though, I give you a -2 for effort, and -10 for being an ass.

[flvegan]

3. So are Hillary and Obama at a kind of bigoted neck and neck now?

[MadBadger]

5. It would appear that way, though i dont think either are bigots or anti gay.

[maddiejoan]

4. Mayberry is a garden variety homophobe

that has endorsed Hillary Clinton. Mayberry isn't even advocating a fed- amendment to ban same-sex marriage.

Rev. Caldwell runs a torture chamber that uses the name of Jesus to murder the souls of gay teens.

[MadBadger]

8. But two of her South Carolina co chairs voted both voted for the ban in South Carolina

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1007/Gay_rights_in_SC_contd.html

[maddiejoan]

12. State matters in South Carolina

regarding same-sex marriage concern me less than getting full federal rights to partner with someone.

All the Democratic candidates want that.

Saying issues of same-sex marriage in individual states is as horrific as the "ex-gay" movement only tells me that you have zero idea how bad a thing we are talking about.

DO SOME RESEARCH.

[ncabot22]

10. No, he just equates gays with thieves

and says he rejects them. Nothing to see here, move along. Please. Try to have some convictions. She commended him for fighting for equality...except, of course, he didn't mean gays or lesbians.

[maddiejoan]

11. I have more conviction in my pinky

than you have in your body.

Homophobes like Mayberry are a dime a dozen. Hell --there are a number of them that post in DU.

If you don't see the peril of the "ex-gay" movement and what it represents --DO SOME RESEARCH.

If I stopped supporting everyone who has a homophobe in the closet in their campaigns --I'd have NOBODY to vote for.

[ncabot22]

14. No, you don't

You make excuses for the homophobes on Hillary's payroll (see SC) while proclaiming your outrage against Obama. If you actually had convictions and were for equality, you'd be for Kucinich--hell, we all would. But no, you support a woman who wants to keep DOMA. Good way of showing your convictions.

[maddiejoan]

16. Here's an idea

Why don't you admit you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.

As for Kucinich? I support him with my donations --so he can continue campaigning.

If it appears that Hillary will definately win the NY primaries --I will cast my vote for Kucinich --but if it's close, I will cast my vote for Hillary.

There is no way in hell I'm risking Obama winning NY state.

[ncabot22]

18. Argue the facts

She has two paid homophobes on her staff in SC..they are her chairs there. How can you defend that? Or don't you know what the fuck you are talking about? Hmmmm, perhaps.

[maddiejoan]

19. I know exactly what I'm talking about

I also know HRC hasn't invited either of them on stage to spout their homophobia at a campaign event in order to pander to the homophobic vote.

[ncabot22]

20. No, she just pays them...much better.

Right?

[maddiejoan]

21. Are you gay?

[hulklogan]

6. This reminds me of that song from "Annie Get Your Gun"

Anything you can do I can do better
I can do anything better than you

Anything Clinton can do, Obama can do better :crazy:

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[Maven]

9. Predictable.

You really don't give a shit, just admit it.

[terrya]

13. You really don't give a shit about homophobia at all, do you?

The insincerity about these posts is kind of nauseating.

[Unsane]

15. Apparently Hillary doesn't.

She praises them with her words, as the OP indicates.

[maddiejoan]

17. Are you Gay?