Female Republicans Will Not Vote For Hillary

[gdaerin]

I just wanted to make sure people are clear about this, because there seems to be some confusion.

I've seen some posts on DU lately, where people claim that Hillary will inspire Republican women to vote Hillary in a GE, and I have to tell you, that is a fairy tale.

I personally know a Lot of republican women, and men, for that matter, and they all Hate the Clintons.

If anything, these people will be inspired to get out and vote against them.

People need to start thinking about electability, because that is the only way we can lose this election, by nominating someone who is unelectable!

[saltpoint]

1. If they get a load of Rudy's 2-3 marriages and his hyper-violent foreign policy,

they just might.

[angie_love]

3. but

It won't be Rudy though, it'll be McCain.

[yardwork]

6. Female Republicans will vote for the Republican.

[saltpoint]

9. It could be McCain. It doesn't feel to me as if any of them has any

persuasive strategy to win their nomination.

[gdaerin]

30. I think the GOP is waiting to see who the dem. nominee is, nt

[saltpoint]

40. We gather in Denver before they coagulate in Minneapolis.

[Lucinda]

77. Thats a nicely turned phrase OC!

:rofl:

[niceypoo]

56. Who cares what the GOP thinks?

America hates them.

[gdaerin]

64. If you only look at democrats, that's all you'll see

but unfortunately the reality is, Despite Bush, the GOP is alive and well

[niceypoo]

55. McCain is just as warped and Violent as Rudy

He is a basket cases basket case. His winning would be a gift.

[gdaerin]

68. He was a POW

that's the ultimate excuse card for just about any personality quirk he might have. I'm not saying I believe that's true, but that's exactly how the GOP would spin it.

[gdaerin]

5. No, Guiliani wouldn't be the Nom. against Clinton for precisely that reason,

and others.

The GOP know their best shot is running McCain against Clinton, and they're right, it is!

[saltpoint]

13. It might be, but what if McCain's health should cave between now and

summertime?

It's an incredibly weak GOP field this time. He's on top for little other reason than there's no competition.

[aquart]

18. It's a weak field because they know they'll lose.

Only the dimwitted crazies would run as Republican this year. Bush has 80% disapproval and over 75% think the country is going in the wrong direction. AND GAS IS HIGH.

It's throw the bastards out time. The Republicans only have to lie low and watch us struggle for two years.

[gdaerin]

24. It's exactly this type of thinking that's going to make us lose, nt

[MS Liberal]

47. Have you seen his mother...she is in her 90s.

[saltpoint]

50. True, she seems like a hearty soul. Then again, it's unlikely she spent

5 years in a damn cage in Viet Nam.

McCain sounds weary and exhausted. My guess is it's not an accident.

[rAVES]

90. lol, like Rudys going to be the nominee, he can barley beat Ron Paul..

[msongs]

2. neither will a lot of so-called democrats on DU nt

[yardwork]

4. Female Republicans won't vote for the Democratic candidate. Next.

[opihimoimoi]

7. Many Pub Women would vote for Hillary....what percentage...who knows..

and she will win if nom'd

[gdaerin]

19. No ,they won't! Do you Know any Republican women? nt

[emilyg]

39. Many,

[comradebillyboy]

80. yes I do. one of my colleagues who has never voted for

a democrat in her life is hot to vote for Hillary for president. She will probably lean on her right wing husband enough so that he will too. She is very determined.

[opihimoimoi]

88. Estimated 15% minimum....approx 5 to 7 MILLION....will vote for HILLARY should she b the NOM

[GoldieAZ49]

20. you are kidding, right?

Or delusional. No Pub women or men will vote for Hillary.

Her being the candidate will motivate the republican voters more than any candidate they have. Hell more than if they could elect Reagan again!

[opihimoimoi]

89. Every election has a small degree of cross overs...EVERY ELECTION

from 5 to 15% or so....

[aquart]

23. Yes. The Democrat will win.

[Hardrada]

8. I know a number of GOP women and some "independents"

too who would, as I have mentioned elsewhere, rise from their death beds to vote against Hillary!! I agree with you. I don't think people understand the real depth of resentment against her in many quarters.

[gdaerin]

11. Exactly, I think these Hillary supporters must live around a lot of democrats

But, here in the republican south, the Clinton hate runs quite deep.

[aquart]

25. Oddly enough, the South isn't as Republican as it used to be.

And, as I said, the Democrats don't need a single Republican vote. Not one.

[gdaerin]

32. Not my point.

And with that logic, Hillary does need All the democrats and independants, which she will not have.

[HooptieWagon]

53. Put down the kool-aid

Hillary will energize the Rs in droves to show up at the polls and vote against her, and a sizeable number of Ds will either vote against her or not vote. After pissing off Blacks she can no longer count on them either. Just where is she going to get enough votes to win? She will NOT draw any more votes in the GE than she is now in the primaries. Add the HRC hating Rs and Is to the HRC hating Ds and she can't win, and no amount of wishful thinking can change that. She is divisive, has high negatives, and is well known - so people are unlikely to change their opinion of her. All she can do at this point is piss even more people off - which she seems to be doing by the day.

[Spiffarino]

75. I'm not sure about that

So many are registered, but so many don't vote. Add that number to the votes that won't be counted and...well, I worry. Still, the Republicans are demoralized right now. We could get lucky.

[aquart]

15. How many "independents" and why the quotes?

Are they under or over 60?

[aquart]

10. 72 million Dems, 55 million Reps, 42 million Inds.

Sweetie, we don't need a single Republican vote. Not one. Those ladies can continue hating with my blessing.

Democrats need 13 million independent votes. Republicans need 30 million independent votes. Their job is MUCH harder than ours. And this year, nobody likes them.

[gdaerin]

17. I have to respectfully disagree, nt

[aquart]

21. With nothing but your bias to back you up. Go for it.

Won't change a thing.

[gdaerin]

26. Ok, I live in Texas and it's not bias, I'm talking about Fact.

The extreme Clinton Hate by Republicans is a fact

[aquart]

34. And I keep telling you, Republican votes don't matter.

You might want to pay closer attention to what's happening in the Hispanic districts. And among the Democratic women.

If we count the votes, we win.

Are you sure it's hatred and not humiliation? Texas Republicans gifted the nation with George W. Bush. That's a lot to be embarrassed about.

[gdaerin]

43. The sad thing is, they're Not embarrassed by that!

You try living here, it's a mind f***! I just think we should look at this from all angles. Turnout for the primaries doesn't necessarily reflect what the turnout will be for the GE. The republicans aren't competing with each other in the same way the dems are.

[emilyg]

42. Seems you're talking about your Clinton hate.

[Texas_Kat]

83. I actually know several Republican women in Texas

They're not only supporting HC, they're doing volunteer work for the campaign. It surprised me too, but then not all Republican women are 'values voters'.

[michreject]

95. Where did you get these numbers?

Just curious.

[DURHAM D]

107. Yep -

Also, I know a lot of Repub women who are planning to vote for Hillary. They are pissed about the press and pundit pile on.

ITS THE PILE ON STUPID!

[rodeodance]

12. Hill can pull it off if anyone can.

[Fresh_Start]

14. so your supporting Edwards?

because there are polls showing white democrats in the south won't support Obama

[paulk]

16. anecdotal evidence is soooo compelling...

not.

[Historic NY]

22. Stepford wives always vote for whom their husbands tell them.

[gdaerin]

27. Yes, let's underestimate the Republicans, that's going to help!

:sarcasm:

[aquart]

28. Now that's insulting. Cut it out.

Republican women have their own concerns, their own biases. And some of them are nice women married to Democrats like my sister's mother-in-law, who is a darling, wonderful woman. But a Republican all her life.

They aren't made with cookie cutters. Hillary knows that. Follow her lead.

[gdaerin]

33. Hillary knows what? nt

[still_one]

29. I agree, and I also believe they won't vote for a Democrat period?

The question is what will the independent voter do?

[johncoby2]

31. Well there you have it!

"I personally know a Lot of republican women, and men, for that matter, and they all Hate the Clintons."

So it be written.
So it be said.

[Cameron27]

36. Even my kids wouldn't let me get away

with that one. I've heard, I've seen, I personally know....

[frogcycle]

35. "I personally know a Lot of republican women...and they all Hate the Clintons"

well that settles it then.

Let's all just ask gdaerin what color socks we should wear.

[gulliver]

37. Talked to several. They only hate Hillary's fake image.

They don't seem to hate Hillary near as much as the men. And I'm guessing you are not talking to moderate Republicans, particularly the older and younger ones. You might be talking to some real type A Republicans who pride themselves on hating the Clintons. As someone who doesn't like Clinton yourself, I don't think your report of the situation is likely to reflect reality. The Republican women will just be agreeing with you.

If you stood up for Hillary with these women, you would see something different, I'll bet. I don't get any drooling or name calling when I do it.

Republican women have never had a chance to see the real Hillary. They have only seen the fake Hillary that the media portrayed so effectively. Hillary is stunningly popular in New York. People that know her end up liking her.

[gdaerin]

41. The republican women I know, remember her from Bill's presidency

and they hated her then, and they still hate her. My point was that they Will not vote for her, even though some are claiming that could very well happen.

[krabigirl]

38. They won't vote for any Democrat.

[HughMoran]

46. You'd think such an obvious thing would be apparent to anyone

Why would a republican vote for a Democrat?

[gdaerin]

49. You people didn't read my post did you?

I've read other posts claiming that Rep. women would vote for Hillary, and I'm saying they won't.

[HughMoran]

51. Seems so unlikely - and I've not seen the posts you are talking about

I've been here dawn-to-dusk for many days, I haven't seen the posts you are talking about - not that I don't believe you - it just seems like such a remote discussion.

[gdaerin]

52. Well, I'm not going to go find the posts!

But they are here, somewhere, and it annoyed me, because I Only know republicans and I know they hate Hillary.

[HughMoran]

54. Sucks to be you

I don't even enjoy visiting Texas - I've had my coworkers actually start preaching how "we're all conservative down here" as soon as us "Yankees" got off the plane. It was one of the most insulting and ignorant introductions I've ever received in my life. I know all of Texas is not like that, but the more vociferous people I meet when visiting on business seem to have a penchant for being ignorant morons that seem to get a kick out of being small-penis twerps. Good luck - take back your state from the ignoramuses!

[gdaerin]

59. LOL, that's exactly what it's like!

It's weird, I feel like I'm in the closet or something. I'm used to it though. The worst was during the last election, the Stickers were Everywhere!

It can't be done. Texas can not be taken back! I thought after Bush took the country down the crapper, that these people would realize their mistake. But, no, they just think they voted for the wrong Repub.

[HughMoran]

71. I often think the only thing the "brain stems" in a place like Texas will understand

is violence. Since this is highly unlikely, it could be a long time before the Dems make inroads there.

[PinkTiger]

44. It depends on who is running on the GOP Ticket.

My sister, who is big-time GOP in Texas, is campaigning for Hillary. So you aren't necessarily right. She said she and her girlfriends are voting for Hillary because the men on the GOP ticket are all "tools." (her words).

She is one of those people who loves to vote for the "man," not the "party." LOL.
Her "man" this time is a woman.

Not everyone in the US is all that party-prone. Many of them vote across the lines. So, while I agree that hard core GOP women will NOT vote for a Clinton (or an Obama), I think many people who voted for GB last time will vote Democratic this time.

[MS Liberal]

45. Some will and some wont. Hillary does not need all, just some.

I know some Republican women who are going to vote for Hillary. Just as all Democratic women do not vote in lock step, all Republican women will not vote against Hillary. The more information I learn about Hillary the more I like her. I used to like her just because she was Bill Clinton's wife. That was good enough for me. Now I like her because she is turning out to be not just a great politician but also an excellent role model.

There is a sisterhood among women. When those Republican women go into the voting booth they are going to cast a vote for Hillary because it will make it easier for their Republican daughter to one day be POTUS or any other profession she chooses. When it is said and done, they know Hillary will do no worse than any man. There are alot of women who admire Hillary for trying to break through that ceiling. They may not tell the pollster or their husband or even their best friend but they will vote for Hillary.

Save this post, Hillary will get no less than 80 percent of the women vote in the general election. This include blacks, hispanic, asian, whites, and all other women.

[gdaerin]

48. I will save this post, for exactly the opposite reason,

the day she wins the Nomination is the day the mud starts to get thrown, and it's going to be a bloodbath, she won't be able to dodge all the attacks, it will get Very ugly.

[HooptieWagon]

57. LOL! I WILL bookmark

Hillary isn't even getting 80% of the Dem women vote... thanks for playing, though.

[Captain Hilts]

105. BINGO. If 5% cross over, she's in. nt

[countmyvote4real]

58. I agree. I would extend that to all genders within the GOP.

They are just not going to cross the aisle for a Clinton. AND yes, the GOP Clinton hate is strong enough to bring them to support any of the pathetic pygmies currently in the GOP Primary race.

The real question before us is what will Independents and disenfranchised progressive Democrats do in the GE?
I’m an Edwards/Kucinitch-type supporter based on their policies, not their personality or supposed entitlement based on their experience or lack there of. It troubles me that the Clintons can’t let go of the WH. In a time when the populace wants change, I am dismayed that we would ever collectively choose another “do-over” dynasty. The Clintons actually scare me enough to vote for a third party candidate if one should emerge OR not vote at all if the Clintons end up being the Democratic candidate(s).

Bill Clinton was more Reagan than Reagan could ever hope to be in his policies. Hilary is no change there. Be very afraid. Do you really think that Monica or Hilary was the last person to suck his dick? And yet, I believe their desperation is probably their greatest asset. If only Kerry delivered on his promise to fight voter irregularities with the vigilance of the latest Clinton campaign. He walked away then and now “pretends” to endorse Obama. They are both mistakes. I’m sorry, but Amerika is not ready to elect a black man or woman as POTUS. It’s not going to happen. Period.

I wish that I had more hope, but I think that the populace has been dumb downed enough not to know better.

Still, the Clinton machine seems most poised to fight against any threats to their candidacy. Oh great. The best GOP candidates are the top two front runners in the Democratic primaries.

We are fucked.

I told you so. Mark this.

[gdaerin]

61. Well there's always Bloomberg nt

[countmyvote4real]

72. Exactly. What's the diff?

At least a Bloomberg ticket would not be a desperate grasp to return us to a leadership that was not so far thinking.

Balanced Budgit: GOOD
NAFTA: BAD
DADT: BAD
Telecommunications Policy: VERY BAD

[AGirl]

60. In France and other countries, huge majority of women might not vote for a presidential nominee just

In France and other countries, huge majority of women might not vote for a presidential nominee just because she is a president. But to me, American women might be different, they might go for it at the secret ballots, I think Hillary has huge potential to win big among women voters if she plays her card right.In France and other countries, huge majority of women might not vote for a presidential nominee just because she is a president. But to me, American women might be different,american election is so much about styles and not substance, women might go for the idea of having the first female president at the secret ballots, I think Hillary has huge potential to win big among women voters if she plays her card right.

[gdaerin]

62. The GE doesn't work this way

The only thing Hillary will be doing is playing Defense to the GOP attack machine, and they've got a Lot of crap to throw, about 35 years worth.

[AGirl]

63. people have heard them before

[gdaerin]

65. And they will here them again

over, and over, and over. And then they'll here all about McCain's experience, and McCain's sacrifices as a POW,

Don't underestimate American's love for POWs, everyone loves a POW.

[AGirl]

67. not sure they will buy into that bs again

[gdaerin]

69. It will be fed to them through the media

and they'll love it. They'll think of it as a public service. They'll feel thankful.

[johnnydrama]

66. the major point is

Republicans may hate Hillary, and won't vote for Hillary. But there's a very good question if they would vote for McCain either.

The only way they come out in droves to vote for McCain is if Hillary is the nominee.

[Hardrada]

86. LOL! Yes, her famous "35 years of change."

I think you've run into the Hillbot tag team who want us to follow them down the Garden Path to Hades once again where we were led by WJC in the not so recent Past.

[CyberPieHole]

70. Wow, I am shocked! I am sure Republicans will vote for Barack Hussein Obama though...

:eyes:

I know thousands of Republicans and they will vote for NO ONE other than Hillary Clinton. Anecdotal evidence, you see needs no proof. My assertion is as valid as yours.:hi:

[Spiffarino]

73. That's the truth.

People don't become Republicans because they want change, and a woman becoming president doesn't inspire most Republican women; on the contrary, it positively frightens the Phyllis Schlafly types.

[progressoid]

74. Wrong. I know of two that will.

One a family member and the other a business acquaintance. Both have always been registered Repubs. And both have told me they would vote for Hillary.

[FreeState]

76. I know several GOP women for Hillary so sorry OP is wrong n/t

[gdaerin]

78. Well 2 or 3 aren't going to win the election nt

[Milo_Bloom]

79. I know a bunch of democratic women who won't vote for Clinton.

My mother is from NY and wouldn't consider voting for her. My fiance wouldn't vote for her. My fiance's sister wouldn't vote for her (in fact conversation at X-mas was about this very topic.)

[gorekerrydreamticket]

96. Quite a few Democratic men as well...n/m

[Captain Hilts]

106. Our relations are too self-selecting to be representive of the larger population. nt

[CK_John]

81. I think they will get the chance to vote for Lynne Cheney for POTUS.

Chime in at
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4137705>

[ArkySue]

82. No one really knows

what Repub women will do behind the voting booth curtain.

[VotesForWomen]

84. oh, i think a few of them will, as will independent women. nt

[gdaerin]

85. the few will be far outweighed by the many that will vote against her nt

[GlendaleMan2007]

87. Amen sister!

This is what I have been trying to tell people! Hillary would be a gift to the Repukes! Stop her!

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

91. Unless you know a statistically significant number of GOP women,

your statement is nothing but a myopic, blinkered opinion.

[wyldwolf]

92. gdaerin polled them all.

[dailykoff]

93. She's counting on the invisible vapor vote.

That legion of mystery voters who took her from third to first place in NH just a day after she tanked in Iowa despite the consensus of polling data showing Obama well ahead? They'll come through once the tallies start rolling in and CNN will explain how it all went down for us as they adjust their exit polls.

[Perry Logan]

94. Smears having failed, it's time for the Obama folks to dust off the hoary "electability" meme.

[cobalt1999]

97. You are wrong.

I live in the reddest of red areas and already know of three lifetime republican woman who plan on voting for Hillary (although they won't tell their husbands). Anecdotal, I know, but they are people who have NEVER considered a democrat before, so we are not talking the usual cross-overs but hard core republicans.

[Laelth]

99. I hope I am wrong and you are right.

See my post below.

:toast:

-Laelth

[Laelth]

98. I am not happy about it, but I must agree with the OP.

Several Republican and independent women have told me this year, and in no uncertain terms, that they will not vote for Hillary Clinton. They didn't say that they would vote for the Republican nominee instead. They just said they wouldn't vote for Hillary. I don't know why, but the level of antipathy towards her is astounding.

It is very foolish to presume that Hillary will be the beneficiary of a massive undercurrent of latent feminism in the populace that wants to see a woman become President. I just don't see it happening with Hillary, and we need to win in November. From that perspective, Hillary is about the worst candidate we have.

I am an Edwards supporter, and I will vote for Hillary is she's the nominee, of course, but I fervently believe that we have other, better, and more electable candidates than she.

:dem:

-Laelth

[mondo joe]

100. Republican men will. They have a pervy obsession with her. NT

[Catherine Vincent]

101. Who gives a fuck?

[OneGrassRoot]

102. I'm surrounded by conservative Republicans...

and there is a lot of vitriol towards the Clintons (for all the wrong reasons, IMHO). I cannot see ANY of them voting for Clinton. In fact, as many have said here, if she is the nominee they will vote just to vote against her.

I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS. I'm simply giving my personal observations of those around me who are repugs (sadly, a lot of them.).

[Nimrod2005]

103. Of course not, they will vote against Hillary

[Captain Hilts]

104. 8 years in polling - for Republicans - tells me that yes, some R women will cross over. nt

[jab105]

108. My parents are apathetic about Edwards/Obama, but HATE

the Clintons...

My mother-in-law is a Democrat and has voted democratic for the last 4 election cycles, but she will vote against HIllary...and loves Obama...

I only know one woman who really likes Hillary...
But I know a lot of republicans who are just aching to vote against her!

[liberalhistorian]

109. Well, I'm sure that's true, but there are a lot of us Dem women

who aren't happy about her, either, and who don't even want her as the nominee. I'll hold my nose and vote for her in the general if she ends up being the nominee (gag! choke!), but I'm sure as hell not going to vote for her in the primary. Of course, ours is the last in the country (June 3), so it'll obviously be more symbolic rather than really count for anything.