Yeah, I was REALLY bummed about the war in 2003...

[Bonobo]

I even went and wasted a whole couple days protesting (as if that did any good!) Man, I swear, I was spitting mad!

In 2004, I felt like it would never end! We passed the 1,000 mark and I couldn't believe there were yellow ribbons on cars everywhere! Grrr, I hated those fucking Republicans! Man! I'm telling you!

In 2005, I was starting to feel some fatigue, but oh boy, you bet I kept on calling my senators! I wrote emails, gave money to Democratic candidates, you know! I bet you were the same way!

In 2006, I felt the change coming! There was a wave of anti-war feelings in the air! People were sick of it! The mainstream finally was starting to get it! Then the election! Oh my god! It exceeded my wildest hopes! Now things were definitely going to change! Thos first 20-30 days were incredible! Godamn! The Dems would move fast and strike, armed with the unassailable power of the mandate they had received! Both houses! I couldn't remember things looking that good since the 90's!

In 2007, I started to really, really appreciate how bad things were. We had been had -by our own side. Throw out the rule book...what the fuck is going on here!? That's where I was in 2007. Desperate, desperate cynicism and loss of hope.

2008... Who the fuck knows. Who cares about the Iraq War anymore. Economy so fucked up, gas so high, oil so high, getting old, gotta find a job, can't afford health insurance but can't cut back cause you're already in that last bracket with the $50 co-pays and the $10,000 deductibles. Couldn't take that vacation with the family anymore. Wondering if it's smart living in such a cold part of the country. Where will food come from if the shit really hits the fan? Car gone, it was leased. What the fuck do I do now. Gotta buy a used one....

War? What war was that?

:sarcasm: or is it?

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Cross-posted from GD.

I wrote the above, ironically, to try to express my frustration with the fact that the War has dropped off the radar completely as an issue for so many, many people. It is understandable given the election, the hard time. etc. Soldiers are a tiny minority of the population and other than the knowledge that innocents are dying on both sides and the psychic pain of that, I am forced to make no sacrifice for this "War", so it is easy to not really care about it.

I really care. It is my number one issue. This is my main reason for being against Hillary. Out of all 3, she has the worst position on the war and the worst record on the war. That is what I believe and so I work against her being selected as our Democratic nominee.

[aquart]

1. Believe what you want.

[Bonobo]

2. Thank you. Thank you for giving me that right.

2 minutes after writing something thoughtful that hurt to pull out of me, you spent 2 minutes deciding to lay a little turd. Thanks. You are a wonderful person.

[Cha]

6. Don't feel too bad..that

poster tries to make sure he/she/it gets to be the first stinkbomb.

[msongs]

3. if she is the nominee you can vote for the republican and feel a whole lot better :-) nt

[Bonobo]

4. Jeez. The quality of the posts that come 3 minutes after an OP is not high, I guess

[John Q. Citizen]

If she's the nominee you can vote for the Repo enabler and feel better, right?

Maybe she will appoint Murdock to the FCC, out of gratitude and a sense of bi-partisan ship. I'm sure that would make you happy as well. As long as Hill does, it can be wrong, after all...

You know, the only joy I would feel if Hill becomes the next president, is in 3 years I can blame the Hill bots for the fact we are still in Iraq and still killing our people and other people because Saddam has WMDs.

Did you belive Hill when she said, "American's are the hardest working people in the world? I didn't. It wasn't true a year ago when she publically declared it, but with NAFTA and government sposored subsidies for the multinational health insurance insutry, it just might be true in 3 years.

As for me, if Hill wins the nomination, I'm writing in Kucinich. We all have to support what we belive in I guess and there ain't no free lunch for the peasants.

[Cha]

5. We've been living

parallel political thoughts except hilary is my senator and I don't drive anymore. Thanks for writing a lot of our thought processes down over the years. It's my number 1 issue, too..and why wouldn't it be? People needlessly died because they wouldn't stop the bushits and look how bad things have gotten world wide because it did't turn out like bush promised them.

[Bonobo]

7. I feel like our dimension shattered in 2000 and since then

we've been living in the alternative false dimension. Somewhere, in the place we were supposed to be, Al Gore is still president and he has made a major step in the direction of ensuring the continued survival of our species on this Earth.

And George Bush... he is in a rehabilitation center somewhere.

[Metric System]

8. Yet

Hillary Clinton is the only one who brought up the Iraq war during the debate in Nevada on MSNBC. Even Arianna "Gobama" Huffington took note.

[Bonobo]

9. Well that's good, I suppose.

But it's hard not to think she is doing it because she knows she has lost some support because of her votes...

[Cha]

10. It's been Twilight Zone and

1984 all wrapped up in one neat huge package. I want it to end and that's why I've been fighting to stop the hilary and bill show.

That's when it did shatter and the lead up to it was excruciatingly heartbreaking.

[Bonobo]

11. Bill and Hillary were an upside-down fairy tale. You're right.

[Skittles]

12. I hear you, Bonobo

I detest Edward's and HRC's assistance is starting that piece of shit war; unfortunately, I don't care for Obama either.

[Bonobo]

13. Thanks, Skittles.

Kucinich is the best of them, naturally.

I think Edwards has transformed, spiritually, with his wife's terminal illness. How could one not begin to see the precious value of life when the love of your life is preparing to leave you, though?
I think he means it now, but has been left with the tools of a professional lawyer that still leaves him "feeling too slick" to some. Maybe I am wrong, but I have always trusted my instincts with regards to "feeling" what people are made of.

But who knows, really? None of us. It's just hard to imagine what kind of a monster would run for president with his wife dying unless he felt so strongly about the importance of it.

For Hillary, on a gut level, I feel like she wants it too much.

As for Obama, I wish he was not so centrist sounding, but I hold out hope that he just sounds like that because he is a man who has been a bridge between cultures his whole life and... well, I know it sounds silly, but if he could heal the enormous anger between this country again and make us just a teency weensy bit more friendly with the other side, it wouldn't be a bad thing. I think he is liberal, more than Hillary.

Oh, one more thing. I think Obama knows he would be a stronger candidate if he waited 4 or even 8 more years. So why I ask myself does he run now when he is not yet strong enough? Is it ambition? Naked ambition? That's when I think maybe it is possible that he also is doing it because he sees the pressing needs of the time.

Who knows?

[Cha]

15. I have pretty much the same

feelings about Obama that you stated..if he waited he would have more national experience and be older but the time is now and some are capable of knowing such things. I like Edwards too because of the transformation he's made for the reasons you gave. I don't buy that he trying to scam everyone..that would be the clintons.

Indeed, who really knows? You just have to go with your life experience and what you get from the candidates who want it badly enough to get out there in the gruel sessions. The m$$m want their horse race and in 2000 they wanted bush so they lied about Gore and kicked bush's record under the rug.

[fenriswolf]

14. don't listen to these other guys I'm with ya

your post really speaks to me, it mirrors my own thoughts and feelings. I agree, hillary is not good, she is part of a legacy of lie's and deceat from both sides. Her war record and her war chest both declare who she is loyal to. The other candidates are not much better. Hope is just about out the window and all you can do is hope to hell you are wrong about who the eventual candidate is....because whoever it is, is exactly who "they" want to be in office.