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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:59 AM
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I'll give one thing to Obama for sure
the man is one hell of a Baptist Preacher

his speech is on CSpan right now.

did he miss his true calling??

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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:00 AM
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1. true. nt.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:04 AM
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2. Who also walks the walk
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/sponsor/OBAMA.html

Vision. Inspiration. Leadership. Accomplishments.

What more do people want?
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:22 AM
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18. Or as John Lewis said about Obama, "He is no Martin Luther
King Jr. I knew Martin Luther King. I knew Bobby Kennedy. I knew President Kennedy. You need more than speech-making. You need someone who is prepared to provide bold leadership."

It is great that Obama can give a rousing speech that makes goose bumps, but we need a president, not a revival meeting preacher. We need someone that can talk in complete sentences and understands first what they are talking about and talks in a way that others understand. Not talking down to anyone, but uplifting so each person will know what is say and how it will effect and affect their lives. HRC is that person....

The media tried hard in 2000 and they succeeded in selling the 20 second sound bite american people that bush DID NOT NEED TO BE THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE ROOM.....and look at what has happened to this great country.....This time we need someone that is one of the smartest people in the room...One with the aptitude to be president from day one, and that person is Hillary rodham Clinton.....

Background:Congressman Lewis was right there next to Dr. King from the day he spoke of his "dream" at the Lincoln memorial to the march on Selma to seeing the Voting Acts Bill signed by President Johnson in the Oval Office of the White House.
October 5, 1963, Standing at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial, John Lewis turned his wrath, not at the easy target, the Dixiecrats, but against the Administration.... To many, the March had been presented as a gigantic lobby for the Administration's Civil Rights Bill, but Lewis pointed quickly, unerringly, to the weaknesses in the bill. Furthermore, by sponsoring a new civil-rights bill, the Administration had skillfully turned attention to Congress, and deflected the erratic spotlight of the civil-rights movement from possibly focusing on inadequacies of the Executive. The straight, crass fact at which John Lewis was aiming is this: the national government, without any new legislation, has the power to protect Negro voters and demonstrators from policemen's clubs, hoses and jails--and it has not used that power.

On March 7,1965, John Lewis of SNCC led a march of 600 people to walk the 54 miles from Selma to the state capital in Montgomery. Only six blocks into the march, however, at the Edmund Pettus Bridge, state troopers and local law enforcement, some mounted on horseback, attacked the peaceful demonstrators with billy clubs, tear gas, rubber tubes wrapped in barbed wire and bull whips. They drove the marchers back into Selma. John Lewis was knocked unconscious and had to be dragged to safety.

It's obvious that Congressman John Lewis is the most qualified person alive to give an opinion about this dark charge from the Obama camp that Senator Clinton was diminishing the role of Martin Luther King, when she said it took LBJ working with him and the movement to make its ideals into the law of the land.







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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:08 AM
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3. He is a great orator.......and statemen...and writes great speeches
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 01:09 AM by FrenchieCat
My husband, who is a licensed minister, is baffled that folks like to typecast Obama as being one thing as opposed to another when he is many things.

By the way, Obama was also a great student, is a great father, a great husband, a great attorney, was a great director for Project Vote, a great legislator, a great senator, has a great sense of humor, is a good dancer, dresses great and is a great presidential candidate--In other words, he is multi talented and is top notch at just about all that he does. He didn't miss his calling, he just chose the one he wanted from an excellent offerings of natural gifts.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:13 AM
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4. Thats beautiful FC!
Thank you.
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:23 AM
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19. Does he? ... write his own speeches?
I've often wondered. I hear echos of Ted Sorenson in them everywhere.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:16 AM
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5. Exactly. Who wants a preacher as president. Insane
If I want to hear speechifying, I'll go to church not tune into a presidential press conference

Can you imagine? :scared:
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:53 AM
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6. religion and politics are a poisionous mix
I don't really care what religious beliefs Obama or any other candidate has, but I sure don't want to hear them. Keep your Abrahamic superstitions to yourself.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:00 AM
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7. Is this what you'll say after Bill's preachy speech at the same church tomorrow?
Somehow I doubt it.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:05 AM
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8. Ha. Obama does MLK does an imitation and that is nothing like Bill Clinton's
speech. If you can't see the huge difference then you are hopeless
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 AM
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9. OH brother. A true DLCer you are.
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 10:34 AM by Kittycat
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:48 AM
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20. If throwing out a ridiculous label comforts you...enjoy
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:36 AM
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10. Yes he did miss his true calling but it's not to late.
Want to join me in drafting a letter to have him drop out of the race to answer his true calling?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:42 AM
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11. I've often thought that myself
Thanks for posting it. :thumbsup:
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:43 AM
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12. What a clever way to denigrate a great speech.
The main theme of the speech was empathy and compassion not religion.
You might want to listen more closely instead of sniping.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:49 AM
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16. I agree, that is pretty sad
Why does he have to be a baptist preacher? It seems that so many feel here are full of snark and jokes.

They won't listen to what he says because they never were going to support him.

It's a shame that this campaign has devolved into this juvenile behavior.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:03 AM
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17. You are so right.
You would think they were talking about a Republican candidate.
Whether now or later, Obama is going to be the President of These United States.
What will they do with their snarky comments then?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:43 AM
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13. I liked his speeches...
until I heard the "hyuck, hyuck... nobody clued me in! I woulda said I like helpin old ladies cross the street!" schtick.

Ugh.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:44 AM
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14. He does seem to have a lot of Elmer Gantry in his delivery.
Let's Hope that's the only similarity...
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:46 AM
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15. That's what I think. It rubs me the wrong way.
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