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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 03:35 AM
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Poverty and peace -- Edwards' issues were Martin Luther King's issues.
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 03:42 AM by JDPriestly
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080121/ap_on_re_us/mlk_legacy;_ylt=Ao0p7X7tA6W4mV7htjUxQY.s0NUE

"Everyone knows, even the smallest kid knows about Martin Luther King, can say his most famous moment was that "I have a dream" speech," said Henry Louis Taylor Jr., professor of urban and regional planning at the University of Buffalo.

"No one can go further than one sentence," he said. "All we know is that this guy had a dream, we don't know what that dream was."

At the time of his death, King was working on anti-poverty and anti-war issues. He had spoken out against the Vietnam War in 1967, and was in Memphis in April 1968 in support of striking sanitation workers.

King had come a long way from the crowds who cheered him at the 1963 March on Washington, when he was introduced as "the moral leader of our nation" — and when he pronounced "I have a dream" on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

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Edwards is the candidate who is focusing the most on the issues that MLK focused on toward the end of his life: ending the war now and poverty. If Martin were alive today, I suspect he would look beyond race and gender and back the candidate who shares his concerns: getting the combat troops out within 12 months of taking office, ending poverty and homelessness, economic development and America's moral duty to set an example for the world by helping those who cannot help themselves. And that candidate would be John Edwards.
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:40 AM
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1. Yeah!
I remember Dr King's 27,000 square foot house and his $400 haircuts and his $1000 suits and his $44 million bank account.

Don't make me sick. Edward's issues are money. Pure and simple.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:25 AM
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2. And just like Rev. King, John Edwards wants everyone to have a fair chance
at achieving success. Even @ssholes like you who don't know what they're talking about. :eyes:
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:40 AM
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3. The Truth Hurts....
its obvious.
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:19 AM
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4. Fugidaboudit
Edwards lamented {after Nevada's 4% showing}: "I am not finished with this fight. I am dead in it."

He sure is.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:26 AM
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5. And you misquote, too.
You really aren't an asshole. Really, you're not. :eyes:
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:36 AM
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6. LOL
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 08:37 AM by Sweet Pea
What did I misquote?

here's the full article from ABC news, located at http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/edwards-what-ha.html

ABC News' Raelyn Johnson reports: Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards has summed up a disappointing performance in the Nevada caucuses, saying, "This is one of those times that I hope the old saying, 'what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas,' turns out to be true. We'll see what happens."

The former No. Carolina senator finished a distant third behind Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., garnering only 4 percent of the vote. He did not pick up any delegates.

"I think the other candidates spent enormous amounts of money, and we didn't. It was a caucus process ... they were there for a long time organizing," said Edwards, in Greenville, S.C.

Yet, despite having failed to win a state, Edwards vowed that he would push forward.

"We've now had three states vote out of 50. We've got 47 more to go. And this cause that I'm engaged in has not gone away, and it has not changed."

When pressed by reporters on his third place finish this evening, Edwards lamented, "I am not finished with this fight. I am dead in it."

Shortly after the results were in, Edwards placed calls to both Clinton and Obama on their victories.


Please note the penultimate sentence.

I'll wait patiently for an apology.
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:52 AM
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7. Fingers drumming n/t
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:32 PM
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14. truly
I pity you
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:27 PM
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15. How Comes? n/t
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:54 AM
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8. Yeah that's why Edwards is working at a cushy job at a DC lobbying or law firm
He's all about money.

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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:18 AM
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12. With $44 mil in the bank....
would YOU work? Cushy DC law firm or not?

LOL....I didn't say the guy wasn't smart! I just think he's not serious about his "poverty/poor people" shtick.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:19 PM
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16. Quite a number of power-hungry Republicans and conservative
Democrats do work in a poshy, cushy D.C. law firm. Except they don't actually work there, they just get paid there. The low-level associates do the work.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:03 AM
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9. That's how I see it, too...
That's why he's the only candidate who has my support.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:32 AM
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10. One of King's speeches that directly addresses this
An excerpt:

http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/publications/speeches/Where_do_we_go_from_here.html

Now another basic challenge is to discover how to organize our strength in to economic and political power. Now no one can deny that the Negro is in dire need of this kind of legitimate power. Indeed, one of the great problems that the Negro confronts is his lack of power.....Now the problem of transforming the ghetto, therefore, is a problem of power, a confrontation between the forces of power demanding change and the forces of power dedicated to the preserving of the status quo. Now, power properly understood is nothing but the ability to achieve purpose. It is the strength required to bring about social, political, and economic change. Walter Reuther defined power one day. He said, "Power is the ability of a labor union like UAW to make the most powerful corporation in the world, General Motors, say, 'Yes' when it wants to say 'No.' That's power."

Now we must develop progress, or rather, a program—and I can't stay on this long—that will drive the nation to a guaranteed annual income. Now, early in the century this proposal would have been greeted with ridicule and denunciation as destructive of initiative and responsibility. At that time economic status was considered the measure of the individual's abilities and talents. And in the thinking of that day, the absence of worldly goods indicated a want of industrious habits and moral fiber. We've come a long way in our understanding of human motivation and of the blind operation of our economic system. Now we realize that dislocations in the market operation of our economy and the prevalence of discrimination thrust people into idleness and bind them in constant or frequent unemployment against their will. The poor are less often dismissed, I hope, from our conscience today by being branded as inferior and incompetent. We also know that no matter how dynamically the economy develops and expands, it does not eliminate all poverty.

The problem indicates that our emphasis must be twofold: We must create full employment, or we must create incomes. People must be made consumers by one method or the other. Once they are placed in this position, we need to be concerned that the potential of the individual is not wasted. New forms of work that enhance the social good will have to be devised for those for whom traditional jobs are not available. In 1879 Henry George anticipated this state of affairs when he wrote in Progress and Poverty:

The fact is that the work which improves the condition of mankind, the work which extends knowledge and increases power and enriches literature and elevates thought, is not done to secure a living. It is not the work of slaves driven to their tasks either by the, that of a taskmaster or by animal necessities. It is the work of men who somehow find a form of work that brings a security for its own sake and a state of society where want is abolished.

Work of this sort could be enormously increased, and we are likely to find that the problem of housing, education, instead of preceding the elimination of poverty, will themselves be affected if poverty is first abolished. The poor, transformed into purchasers, will do a great deal on their own to alter housing decay. Negroes, who have a double disability, will have a greater effect on discrimination when they have the additional weapon of cash to use in their struggle.

Beyond these advantages, a host of positive psychological changes inevitably will result from widespread economic security. The dignity of the individual will flourish when the decisions concerning his life are in his own hands, when he has the assurance that his income is stable and certain, and when he knows that he has the means to seek self-improvement. Personal conflicts between husband, wife, and children will diminish when the unjust measurement of human worth on a scale of dollars is eliminated.

Now, our country can do this. John Kenneth Galbraith said that a guaranteed annual income could be done for about twenty billion dollars a year. And I say to you today, that if our nation can spend thirty-five billion dollars a year to fight an unjust, evil war in Vietnam, and twenty billion dollars to put a man on the moon, it can spend billions of dollars to put God's children on their own two feet right here on earth....


....I want to say to you as I move to my conclusion, as we talk about "Where do we go from here?" that we must honestly face the fact that the movement must address itself to the question of restructuring the whole of American society. (Yes) There are forty million poor people here, and one day we must ask the question, "Why are there forty million poor people in America?" And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising a question about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth. When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. (Yes) And I'm simply saying that more and more, we've got to begin to ask questions about the whole society. We are called upon to help the discouraged beggars in life's marketplace. (Yes) But one day we must come to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring. (All right) It means that questions must be raised. And you see, my friends, when you deal with this you begin to ask the question, "Who owns the oil?" (Yes) You begin to ask the question, "Who owns the iron ore?" (Yes) You begin to ask the question, "Why is it that people have to pay water bills in a world that's two-thirds water?" (All right) These are words that must be said. (All right)

Now, don't think you have me in a bind today. I'm not talking about communism. What I'm talking about is far beyond communism. (Yeah) My inspiration didn't come from Karl Marx (Speak); my inspiration didn't come from Engels; my inspiration didn't come from Trotsky; my inspiration didn't come from Lenin. Yes, I read Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital a long time ago (Well), and I saw that maybe Marx didn't follow Hegel enough. (All right) He took his dialectics, but he left out his idealism and his spiritualism. And he went over to a German philosopher by the name of Feuerbach, and took his materialism and made it into a system that he called "dialectical materialism." (Speak) I have to reject that.

What I'm saying to you this morning is communism forgets that life is individual. (Yes) Capitalism forgets that life is social. (Yes, Go ahead) And the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism, but in a higher synthesis. (Speak) It is found in a higher synthesis (Come on) that combines the truths of both. (Yes) Now, when I say questioning the whole society, it means ultimately coming to see that the problem of racism, the problem of economic exploitation, and the problem of war are all tied together. (All right) These are the triple evils that are interrelated.


And if you will let me be a preacher just a little bit. (Speak) One day , one night, a juror came to Jesus (Yes sir) and he wanted to know what he could do to be saved. (Yeah) Jesus didn't get bogged down on the kind of isolated approach of what you shouldn't do. Jesus didn't say, "Now Nicodemus, you must stop lying." (Oh yeah) He didn't say, "Nicodemus, now you must not commit adultery." He didn't say, "Now Nicodemus, you must stop cheating if you are doing that." He didn't say, "Nicodemus, you must stop drinking liquor if you are doing that excessively." He said something altogether different, because Jesus realized something basic (Yes): that if a man will lie, he will steal. (Yes) And if a man will steal, he will kill. (Yes) So instead of just getting bogged down on one thing, Jesus looked at him and said, "Nicodemus, you must be born again."

In other words, "Your whole structure (Yes) must be changed." A nation that will keep people in slavery for 244 years will "thingify" them and make them things. (Speak) And therefore, they will exploit them and poor people generally economically. (Yes) And a nation that will exploit economically will have to have foreign investments and everything else, and it will have to use its military might to protect them. All of these problems are tied together. (Yes)

What I'm saying today is that we must go from this convention and say, "America, you must be born again!" (Oh yes)

And so, I conclude by saying today that we have a task, and let us go out with a divine dissatisfaction. (Yes)

Let us be dissatisfied until America will no longer have a high blood pressure of creeds and an anemia of deeds. (All right)

Let us be dissatisfied (Yes) until the tragic walls that separate the outer city of wealth and comfort from the inner city of poverty and despair shall be crushed by the battering rams of the forces of justice. (Yes sir)

Let us be dissatisfied (Yes) until those who live on the outskirts of hope are brought into the metropolis of daily security.

Let us be dissatisfied (Yes) until slums are cast into the junk heaps of history (Yes), and every family will live in a decent, sanitary home.

Let us be dissatisfied (Yes) until the dark yesterdays of segregated schools will be transformed into bright tomorrows of quality integrated education.

Let us be dissatisfied until integration is not seen as a problem but as an opportunity to participate in the beauty of diversity.

Let us be dissatisfied (All right) until men and women, however black they may be, will be judged on the basis of the content of their character, not on the basis of the color of their skin. (Yeah) Let us be dissatisfied.

Let us be dissatisfied (Well) until every state capitol (Yes) will be housed by a governor who will do justly, who will love mercy, and who will walk humbly with his God.

Let us be dissatisfied until from every city hall, justice will roll down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream. (Yes)

Let us be dissatisfied (Yes) until that day when the lion and the lamb shall lie down together (Yes), and every man will sit under his own vine and fig tree, and none shall be afraid.

Let us be dissatisfied (Yes), and men will recognize that out of one blood (Yes) God made all men to dwell upon the face of the earth. (Speak sir)

Let us be dissatisfied until that day when nobody will shout, "White Power!" when nobody will shout, "Black Power!" but everybody will talk about God's power and human power.

And I must confess, my friends (Yes sir), that the road ahead will not always be smooth. (Yes) There will still be rocky places of frustration (Yes) and meandering points of bewilderment. There will be inevitable setbacks here and there. (Yes) And there will be those moments when the buoyancy of hope will be transformed into the fatigue of despair. (Well) Our dreams will sometimes be shattered and our ethereal hopes blasted. (Yes) We may again, with tear-drenched eyes, have to stand before the bier of some courageous civil rights worker whose life will be snuffed out by the dastardly acts of bloodthirsty mobs. (Well) But difficult and painful as it is (Well), we must walk on in the days ahead with an audacious faith in the future.

Let us realize that the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. Let us realize that William Cullen Bryant is right: "Truth, crushed to earth, will rise again." Let us go out realizing that the Bible is right: "Be not deceived. God is not mocked. (Oh yeah) Whatsoever a man soweth (Yes), that (Yes) shall he also reap." This is our hope for the future, and with this faith we will be able to sing in some not too distant tomorrow, with a cosmic past tense, "We have overcome! (Yes) We have overcome! Deep in my heart, I did believe (Yes) we would overcome."
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:34 PM
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18. Wow! No one would dare say these things today.
Martin Luther King gave an entirely different meaning to the phrase "born again" than the Christian Right.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:04 AM
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11. Damn right. People (rightwingnuts) can blat about morality all they want but...
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 11:06 AM by Triana
..REAL MORALITY - what it is, what it means, escapes them. MLK knew and fought for it. So does JRE. Both made it the cause of their lives.

Too bad this "oh-so-moral" society of ours isn't listening and turns their backs in him on favor of more moneyed and bought candidates - moneyed and bought by the very forces who sold our national morality down the shitter for their own profit.

We have ONE MAN who wants to return us to our moral, Democratic roots and clean our national house of the money-changers - and what do people do? Sheister and ignore him.

I'd like to think (like John) that this country is better than that.

But I'm disappointed to find out - we're NOT. (apparently)
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:50 AM
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13. John is the only one!
I'll follow him forever!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:21 PM
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17. K&R!!
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