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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:25 PM
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The GLBT community is just as important to the Democratic party as the African American community
Whether Democrats want to admit it or not.

First of all, we vote in numbers that are roughly half of the AA community.

Gays and lesbians are 4-5% of the national vote (probably higher as many will not self-identify to an exit pollster).

African Americans are 10%.

As groups, we both vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

(There is also a very sizable group that belongs to both populations at once: GLBT people of color.)

In a country that is evenly divided, where elections are decided by 1 or 2 percent, the Democratic party cannot afford to have either community vote Republican, third party or sit at home.

So, to all those trying to portray the gay and lesbian voting bloc as just another insignificant interest group, you couldn't be more wrong.

African Americans demand certain things of democratic presidential candidates, as well they should.

Gays and lesbians demand certain things of democratic presidential candidates, as well they should.

The conflict arises, because there is a certain segment of the African American community, the evangelical churchgoing community, that is at odds with the gay and lesbian community seeking equal status in this country. They agitate against marriage equality, they march against marriage equality and they are told lies about gays and lesbians every Sunday from the pulpit.

So, a dilemma for Democratic candidates. How to handle this demographically important part of the African American vote?

One would hope with wise and moral leadership.

The lowest threshold should be that NO Democratic presidential candidate should ever exploit racist or anti-gay sentiment to gain votes from a racist or anti-gay constituency.

That's the very minimum we should expect from our candidates. And if they violate that, we have every right to hammer at them until they stop doing it.


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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:26 PM
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1. ...
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:28 PM
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2. It is to me as a human being - any bigotry, prejudice is equally abhorent to me
whether is based on sex, color, orientation or any new one they may come out with
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:29 PM
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3. The Democratic Party should stand for Inclusion and Equality.
and equal rights of every person in the country. We should not tolerate discrimination against any group of people, for any reason.

And, we should not pander or change for votes from those who are intolerant or discriminatory.



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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:46 PM
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9. That's the real point, here.
What is the Democratic Party if it doesn't stand for human rights?

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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:30 PM
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4. Hear hear!
Well said, ruggerson!

K&R

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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:31 PM
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5. They are about to learn that the hard way...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:31 PM
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6. K&R ruggerson
"The lowest threshold should be that NO Democratic presidential candidate should ever exploit racist or anti-gay sentiment to gain votes from a racist or anti-gay constituency.

That's the very minimum we should expect from our candidates. And if they violate that, we have every right to hammer at them until they stop doing it."


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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:44 PM
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7. K&R.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:45 PM
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8. Kicked and recommended
Thank you for posting this.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:49 PM
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10. There is a lot of anti-gay bigotry in the Black voting blocks of SC
so being anti-gay is smart politics here.

Sure- politics of change and all but lets be serious about winning SC.

Why not play the pink card?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:05 PM
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16. You couldn't have said it better
he's playing the pink card.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:54 PM
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11. recommend
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:56 PM
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12. K&R Civil rights for EVERYONE! n/t
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:57 PM
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13. K&R. Well said (to all of the above).
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:09 PM
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14. You are right ~ I heard Obama mention the GLBT
in his MLK Speech.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:20 PM
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15. Kick for Equality
:kick:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:07 PM
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17. Big Dog has a problem with LGBTs
He gave us DOMA and DADT, and then told Kerry in '04 to turn against marriage rights for LGBTs. What a guy!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:12 PM
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18. Read this OP
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:14 PM
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19. I support full equality and so does my candidate.
It's too bad the OP's candidate has never, and will never say the same.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:21 PM
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20. politics is the art of the possible
and choosing a leader who is viable.
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