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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:25 PM
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Why Edwards must win: "My daughter was in Iraq for one year."
I live in a lower middle class neighborhood in Los Angeles. Most of the houses are single family bungalows built in the 1920s and 1930s. This is the real L.A. Many, if not the majority, of the residents were born out of the U.S. We live together in a cacophony of languages, musics, smells, with Spanish predominating. The police say that there is gang activity here. There warnings are enough to cause people to lock their gates and doors and, in some cases, keep vicious dogs in their front yards.

I am walking my precinct for Edwards. Yesterday, I knocked on a door, and a man opened it a crack. When I told him my name and that I was a volunteer for Edwards, he opened the door widely and stepped outside to talk. Apologizing for his English, he blurted out: "My daughter was in Iraq for one year." Smiling resolutely, mustering up courage, he calmly told me "I want the war to end now." I told him I was sorry his daughter had to go to Iraq, and I assured him: John Edwards is your candidate. He promises to take the combat troops out within his first year in office. I gave him some papers on Edwards' positions, and he said he would have his son read them to him. He was delighted to hear that Edwards was speaking to his issue.

Regardless of how he voted in the past or why, Edwards was the first of the remaining top three candidates to pledge to take the combat troops out of Iraq within his first year in office. Hillary and Obama have followed Edwards' lead on the War. The Republicans will soon join. So, although the sincerity, the immediacy of my neighbor's concern and Edwards' response to it moved me deeply, I agree that Edwards' policy on Iraq, while the best, would not be enough by itself to cause a DUer who supports another candidate to switch to Edwards. But Edwards is not just leading on this one issue. Rather, he is leading on the largest issues: formulating policy based on moral courage rather than on political reckoning.

I know that I will hear from dozens of Obamers and Hillaryites about how they can't trust Edwards because of this or that vote or votes in the Senate. But we are living now. And now, in this present, regardless of the candidates' votes in the past, Edwards is the leader. He is the only candidate who will lead the people in the struggle against the corporate domination of our democracy. He is leading in his stance on the war. He is leading on health care. He is leading with his positions on rural American and poverty. And he is leading on the economic issues. In fact, he is the only candidate who is proposing a truly effective economic plan that will insure a secure and environmentally healthy future for America.

That is why I am sticking with John Edwards. That is why I will not give up. Forget race. Forget gender. Edwards is the leader. He is our strongest candidate. This is our last chance, DU. Edwards can win. Hillary and Obama cannot. THey are not leaders. Hillary listens to corporate advisers. Obama is inexperienced. Edwards is the candidate for 2008.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:28 PM
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1. I agree 100% with your last comment
That is why I am sticking with John Edwards. That is why I will not give up. Forget race. Forget gender. Edwards is the leader. He is our strongest candidate. This is our last chance, DU. Edwards can win. Hillary and Obama cannot. THey are not leaders. Hillary listens to corporate advisers. Obama is inexperienced. Edwards is the candidate for 2008.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:29 PM
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2. Edwards also recognizes that THE fundamental issue facing our
country is the undue influence of the "monied interests."
I just wish he would link this to global warming and what can be done about it...of course, neither HRC or Obama are talking about global warming.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:40 PM
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7. Bingo! There it is - the root of them all - Edwards gets that..
..the others won't even DISCUSS it. (well, they're part of it, that's why).
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:03 PM
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33. He does talk about global warming
it is in the top 5 things that he wants to do when he gets into the White House.

zalinda
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:29 PM
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3. I gather you didn't explain to the man that Edwards co-sponsored the IWR?
And was responsible along with Bush for his daughter's being in Iraq for a year?

Way to go. :sarcasm:
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:44 PM
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9. Did you read the OP?
The poster was completely correct on these points, we are living NOW and for the FUTURE. I will continue to support Edwards, but I will also support whoever our nominee is in the GE, but he must continue his struggle to be heard so at least it may influence the eventual winner to take up some of his cause. The most important thing is that we become united against the other side, if we don't, we have no chance.

Regardless of how he voted in the past or why, Edwards was the first of the remaining top three candidates to pledge to take the combat troops out of Iraq within his first year in office.

<<snip>>

I know that I will hear from dozens of Obamers and Hillaryites about how they can't trust Edwards because of this or that vote or votes in the Senate. But we are living now. And now, in this present, regardless of the candidates' votes in the past, Edwards is the leader.
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Monty__ Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:20 PM
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28. and
he admitted he made a mistake
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:33 PM
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4. Bravo! Wonderful post! Isn't it interesting how getting out and
talking to real people brings these things home. I've had the same experiences canvassing and tabling and until you actually talk to people who are on the front lines or have a loved one there, you don't appreciate the importance of what Edwards stands for. Keep up the great work!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:02 PM
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22. Thanks for your work!
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:34 PM
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5. DAMN IT - I"m In Illinois and I want a chance to Vote for Edwards
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:37 PM
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6. Don't let facts get in the way of your decision
Edwards not only voted for the Iraq War Resolution, but was a co-sponsor with Joe Lieberman. He also was on the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time and was privvy to knowing that the Bush intelligence was bogus, but still saw the political expediency to not only be a war hawk, but to have impressed so much that his speeches were on the White House web site.

Add that he is the least experienced of any of the candidates who have run, including the Republicans. Obama's experience and background overshadows Edwards by a long shot.

Who should you trust... John Edwards when he had a chance to be a proven leader when he was Senator or when he is standing on the sidelines? An actual record of how someone performs is a better indicator than words in my view.

Good luck on his candidacy.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:54 PM
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12. Gore's VP candidate was Lieberman...
So what? People change, don't they? By your rational, Al Gore is never to be trusted again because Joementum was on his ticket. Oh, and don't forget Gore's Senate speech promoting the first Gulf War. Sorry, but I do believe people have the right to have a change of heart.
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:16 PM
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15. What do facts have to do with your worldview, zz?
Unless I'm mistaken, you're supporting Barack Obama, darling of the American right-wing, who posted on his website that he plans to prolong the Iraq war indefinitely -- in order to fight terrorism, Obama's plan says, mimicking Bush propaganda. John Edwards has announced his plan to bring US troops home from Iraq within a year, leaving only enough behind to guard the embassy.

When someone tells me he's going to harm me, I believe him. Obama supporters just say, "Oh no, he's so nice, he'd never do that!"
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:29 PM
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18. "he plans to prolong the Iraq war indefinitely"
Walk away from the crack pipe. it's not good for you.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:07 PM
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23. My statement on Edwards being the only candidate who knows the score now
stands.

Obama gave himself away with his comments on Reagan and the "excesses of the '60s and '70s." Obama does not understand that the so-called Reagan Revolution was actually the beginning of the end for the American democracy. Reagan was sponsored by the corporations. He spoke for the corporations. In fact, he was sponsored by them and spoke for them as a hired voice on television years before he decided to run for office.

Edwards is our last chance to have a president who speaks for us and not for the corporate elite. Edwards is the only candidate speaking about poverty.

I will back him until after the November election. He is the only candidate who can combat the corruption that corporate control of the media, the government and the culture of our country has brought.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:14 PM
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27. After all-
Obama has never voted to fund the war... oops.
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:42 PM
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8. I'm Confident He Won't Win
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 01:48 PM by Sweet Pea
He hasn't done anything in any poll thus far. He has a big goose-egg for primaries and caucuses this far. He polls third - most times a *distant* third - in *every* state or territory or possession poll thus far that I can tell. He is a distant third on the national scale and is a distant third on delegates.

Its nice and sweet and heart warming to sit there and play the game and chant the mantra that "Its a marathon not a sprint!" but the truth of the matter is that even if it is a marathon, Edwards is miles and miles and miles behind and not even his bank account would be able to help him catch up. His type of populism and progressiveness is not wanted. Pure and simple. He should head back to his Poverty Center and his hedge fund job and his 27,000 square foot house and his barber and forget about this race because it just ain't happening.

Ain't gonna, either.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:12 PM
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14. I can't believe the haircut keeps coming into this...
as if Hillary or Obama go to SuperCuts? What bs!

That was a mighty dismissive post. Many of us DO want Edwards' "type of populism and progressiveness." All we're likely to get with Hillary or Obama is more corporitism. I'm just itching to see what February 5 will bring...
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:24 PM
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16. "I can't believe the haircut keeps coming into this..."
I bet JE is saying the same thing. Perhaps NEXT time (if there is a next time) JE will think a bit more about the people he hopes to govern rather than how good his haircuts look on television.

And if you want that sort of narcissistic egotism as your president, keep hoping away that a distant third place will somehow magically leapfrog into a leader of the pack.

Again, ain't gonna happen and the sooner you hitch your wagon to a REAL progressive and champion of the little guy like Dennis you'll be better off!
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 03:19 PM
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20. I love Dennis Kucinich
but his chances compared to JE's are NIL. Why don't you "hitch your wagon" to reality?

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:13 PM
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26. Hillary probably spends as much on her hair and make-up in one day
as John Edwards spends in several months.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:07 PM
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30. She's had fancy tastes for years
and I'm sure she's high maintenance but I've always been just a bit surprised that she didn't go the Botox/surgery route. It does speak volumes to her character actually, especially in this sexist society where women are valued more for youth than wisdom.

Either way, the haircut slam is pretty pathetic.
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:26 PM
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34. For some reason I doubt that n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:41 PM
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35. I suspect your reason is wishful thinking.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:11 PM
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24. Martin Luther King didn't win much in his lifetime either. In fact he was assassinated.
It isn't only about winning elections. It is also about doing what is right now. John Edwards is right. His analysis of the issues and the solutions he is offering the country are right. That is why I back him.

You don't vote for candidates because they will win. You vote for them because they will represent you once they get into office. You vote for them because they are honest in the sense that they don't take money from corporations or crooks or special interests in order to get elected or to have a nice house.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:13 PM
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25. You're really working overtime today aren't you?
Would someone turn on the light please?

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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:52 PM
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36. go away never to return!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:48 PM
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10. I admire your dedication to Edwards.
If he had more volunteers like you he might be doing better.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:49 PM
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11. "formulating policy based on moral courage rather than on political reckoning"
Great post and an even greater story. Its so good to hear these people have hope after all they've been through. They deserve a fair shake in our country and Edwards will give it to them.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:02 PM
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13. Thank you for sharing this. I couldn't agree more.
K&R
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:28 PM
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17. Woot Woot!!!!
K&R
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:30 PM
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19. Thank you for doing the work JD-
It's people like you, people like all of us who are Activists, who can bring this home. Good read.
K&R
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:19 PM
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21. K&R!!
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:37 PM
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29. Count me in, till the dogs or cows come hom!!!!
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:44 PM
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31. I wil NEVER SURRENDER!
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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:50 PM
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32. Shame on you
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 07:53 PM by penguin7
How can you use ending the war in Iraq as a reason to vote for one of the men that supported the invasion?

If Edwards did not understand this issue six years ago when he was near fifty, his judgement will not be improving at this age.
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