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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:10 PM
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The Stark Differences Between Obama and Edwards on Trade. Great Diary!
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 07:31 PM by saracat
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/22/162957/640/117/441263

The first inkling of the issue of trade came when Edwards responded to a question about the economic stimulus. He said this:

There is one other issue that was mentioned in passing by the two of them, which is the issue of jobs. And there is a difference between myself and my colleagues on this issue of jobs, because they both supported the Peru trade deal.

My view is the Peru trade deal was similar to NAFTA. And this is crucial to the state of South Carolina...

BLITZER: But...

EDWARDS: ... no, no -- and crucial to the state of the South Carolina and jobs in South Carolina. South Carolina has been devastated by NAFTA and trade deals like NAFTA.

Sen. Obama, then, responded a but later:

But the only thing I want to differ on John is this whole notion of Peru. The Peru trade deal had labor and environmental agreements in it. Peru is an economy the size of New Hampshire. Over 90 percent of the goods coming from Peru already come in under various free trade agreements.

Edwards responded:

And the problem with Peru, Barack, is you are leaving the enforcement of environmental and labor regulations in the hands of George Bush.

I wouldn't trust George Bush to enforce anything, certainly no trade obligations.

Sen. Obama:

Well, the only point I would make is that in a year's time, it'll be me who's enforcing them.

Sen. Obama fundamentally misunderstands so-called "free trade" and this should be of great concern to voters. Sen. Obama is wrong that the problem lies simply in not having a president who will "enforce" labor and environment provisions. He incorrectly gives the impression that it was just fine to vote for the so-called "free trade" deal with Peru. That is not correct. As the Citizens Trade Campaign pointed out:

The Peru Free Trade Agreement replicates many of the problems in NAFTA and CAFTA...
Some Members of Congress are operating under the mistaken impression that Labor supports the Peru deal, but it's not true. While some unions have chosen not to actively oppose the Peru FTA, there is not ONE that supports it. Likewise, not one civil rights organization supports this agreement.

The so-called "free trade" deal with Peru, like the other similar agreements, is precisely like NAFTA. The deal with Peru includes NAFTA-style Chapter 11 foreign investor rights. These rights encourage U.S. companies to move offshore, as well as open up basic U.S. environmental, health, zoning and other laws to attack (they allow a company to argue that a pro-labor or pro-consumer law constitute an unfair trade barrier and, therefore, needs to be eliminated).

These deals still allow companies to attack prevailing wage laws, recycled content and renewable energy policy remain.

These deals still contain agriculture rules that displace millions of peasant farmers increasing hunger, social unrest, and desperate migration.

These deals still allow food safety limits that require us to import meat not meeting our safety standards.

These deals still allow drug companies to extend patent rights that undermine affordable access to medicine.

These deals still let U.S. firms, such as Citibank, demand compensation if, for example, Peru tries to reverse course and end its awful social security privatization.

There is also a fundamental misunderstanding about these labor and environment provisions--and we are being hoodwinked into believing that they mean much. If you have so-called "free trade" deals that include all the things I've mentioned above, it's completely irrelevant whether there are labor and environment provisions because:

The fundamental premise of these deals is that the rights of capital and investors are paramount, and the concerns of communities--whether we are talking about labor or the environment--are issues that get shoe-horned in and are quite secondary.

Sen. Obama brought up Edwards' vote for permanent trade relations with China. That is a legitimate point--though it is not clear, given Sen. Obama's current positions on trade, that he would have opposed permanent trade relations with China had he been in the U.S. Senate when that vote occurred (to my knowledge, one can't vote "present" in the U.S. Senate). But, as I've stated before in previous discussions about trade, I think we can, and should, view changes in candidates' positions--and that applies to all of them--in the broader context of their overall campaign positions. The Iowa Fair Trade Campaign tracked the positions of the Democratic candidates and you can judge for yourself. But, I would encourage you to read the broad outlinesof Edwards' positions on trade which came out as part of his announced opposition to the so-called "free trade" agreement with Peru.

As a proud partisan for the right of workers, I see clearly that the bi-partisanship that has brought us so-called "free trade" deals is deadly for the living standards of working people, here and abroad. I don't want bi-partisanship so we can pass more such deals, even if they include phony labor and environment provisions. I believe we have to push for fierce partisanship to kill these deals so that they never see the light of day again.

Voting for the so-called "free trade" deal with Peru was a bad vote for American workers, not to mention workers throughout the world. Period.

UPDATE: I should have pointed out that Sen. Clinton also voted for the Peru deal.

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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:35 PM
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1. John seems to be the ONLY one Who Cares!
GO JOHN!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:36 PM
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2. Ya got that right!
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:45 PM
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9. 3 cheers for john!
HIP, HIP HOORAY! HIP, HIP HOORAY! HIP, HIP HOORAY!
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:47 PM
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3. Instead of forming more "free trade" deals, we should be abrogating
most of the ones that we have. Edwards is right, and I hope he arrives at the Convention with enough delegates to leverage the results.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:27 PM
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4. Kick!!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:35 PM
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5. Thanks Sara, very informitive post.
K&R :hi:
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:46 PM
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6. K&R
Another great example of Edwards progressive policy!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:51 PM
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7. Thanks From Me Too!! It's Just Too Bad That Too Many... I Was
going to say Americans and I suppose it's true, but they just seem to vote against their best interests! Of late, what I've seen of Obama has really surprised me A LOT!! I never really had any problem with him other than the fact that I support John Edwards, but as more and more information surfaces, I think he's very DLC and as I have commented recently... ANOTHER... Independent Democrat! A-La Lieberman! And to think, it's said it's either Clinton OR him!

Do I smell pickles???

:toast:
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:26 PM
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8. He is experienced with all the in's and out's now.
He will make a fine President!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:07 AM
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10. Kucinich, of course, was there first
Not that I don't appreciate Edwards catching up, though.
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