Shocking phone call from the Edwards campaign

[alteredstate]

Yesterday I received a phone call asking me to support John Edwards. Among other things, the caller accused Barack Obama of supporting George Bush's policies on NAFTA.

Ugh.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. WTF?

Edwards voted for permanent "free" trade status for China.

[cali]

2. Where are you?

Was it a robocall?

[alteredstate]

3. South Carolina

It wasn't a robocall.

[alteredstate]

4. I was shocked to receive this type of call from the Edwards folks.

[Cha]

43. I shocked, too! Too bad we can't get

to the bottom of these calls and see who for sure are the lyin' culprits.

Maybe someone who doesn't think they'd be caught. If I get any calls here in New York about what a bad boy Obama is..I'll give 'em an earful on who I think is the bad candidate.

[Yael]

42. Edwards doesn't have that kind of money

and this is not the kind of campaign he runs.

[Andy823]

46. I agree

It's crap, period!

[Mass]

5. Could it be a dirty trick from the Clinton campaign - They have stooped that low that you never know

what they could do.

[alteredstate]

6. I hadn't thought of that ---

[rox63]

7. Or it could be from the Edwards campaign

They know that SC is their last chance to turn things around. They may be getting desperate, and may be in attack mode.

[noel711]

8. from what I see in the debates..

Edwards and Obama have a healthy relationship. They tease one another,
'bust on' one another, arent' afraid to challenge each other,
yet there is an open sense of admiration. Not so with Miss Hillary,
who keeps a cold distance.

The Edwards camp hasn't pulled dirty tricks.. but the clinton camp..

[leftynyc]

10. Then explain

why it was Hillary Clinton and John Edwards that held the private meeting after the debate.

[LibraLiz1973]

15. Umm... was it a MEETING or were they just talking?

I wouldn't look to deep into that abyss.
I don't actually think John & Hillary get along very well.

[Seabiscuit]

20. As long as everyone's speculating about that "meeting"...

why hasn't anyone suggested they're just hot for each others' bods, and were going at it like a couple of furry bunnies in that room for 20 minutes?

All the other explanations I've heard make about that much sense.

[Lucinda]

37. Someone did made that accusation already

This place is amazing sometimes

[leftynyc]

21. They went behind closed doors

sounds like a meeting to me. And why don't you think they get along?

[Seabiscuit]

23. Were the doors green?

They were behind the green door?

[LibraLiz1973]

27. John repeatedly says that if you want to vote for change this election

there are only 2 candidates to choose from- him or Barack.
He's very dismissive of Hillary and her antics.
That's why I don't think he likes her all that much.

I really don't think they were cooking something up.
Or... I really dont think JOHN would be involved in whatever Hillary's campaign might cook up.

[Apollo11]

11. Edwards is in third place in his birth state. You bet he's desperate!

If Edwards comes a distant third in South Carolina, it will be difficult for him to remain viable in most of the Mega Tuesday States. Most voters (and all the media) will see it as a two-horse race.

So Edwards campaign is no doubt trying to get some traction in SC by any means necessary.

[waiting for hope]

48. I have done phone banking - last weekend -

to SC and I can guarantee, that is not how we are instructed to talk to potential voters. We are told, the minute they tell us they are supporting another candidate, we say, "I respect your choice and thank you for your time". End of call. I don't believe for a minute this came from the Edwards campaign.

[Evergreen Emerald]

14. ITS ALL CLINTON'S FAULT

oh brother.

[mondo joe]

16. It might have been Bill Clinton's penis calling. NT

[robbedvoter]

19. Oh, MIghty Clenis - is there anything you cannot do?

[DaLittle Kitty]

24. LIKELY THE CLINTONS THAT IS A DIRTYYY PUSH POLL AGAINST EDWARDS WHO'S GAINING STEAM! BASTARDS!

[cooolandrew]

39. To be fair to edwards supporters I doubt they're that gullible. So he'll be Ok.

[NoPasaran]

52. But how can you argue when something is typed all in caps?

IT MUST BE TRUE!
:sarcasm:

[sufrommich]

32. Is there any evil left in the world that the Clinton's aren't

directly responsible for at this point,according to Obama supporters? :eyes:

[cooolandrew]

38. Phew thoughbt I was lsing it Im not the only one concerned.

[OzarkDem]

9. Hasn't he?

IIRC reading somewhere recently where he was quoted criticizing attempts to curb or eliminate NAFTA. Just asking.

[alteredstate]

12. Uhmmmm, were you making calls for Edwards yesterday?

Just kidding. Here are the facts:

http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/19/fact_check_obama_never_said_we.php

[cali]

18. No, you're not asking. You're sliming- making an accusation

without a shred of evidence. You do that with predictable frequency.

[Political Heretic]

22. Well now *I'm* asking. Since I don't know and would like to...

...based on something other than you criticizing anyone who asks.

My guy isn't going to get the nomination... so I obviously have a stake in trying to figure out which other candidates I can most closely support as a second choice.

[OzarkDem]

33. Don't count your guy out yet n/t

[Capn Sunshine]

34. well it's really a stretch, but you could check his positions at his website

I realize that DU posters have a tendency to wait for someone to do their work for them so they don't miss even one post. But seriously, try looking up his positions here

[Cha]

44. Sorry, the link doesn't work, Capn..

Thanks for all the good work on the Obama Campaign:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Cha]

45. Sorry, you're making Edwards look

bad and that isn't good.

[alteredstate]

13. I'd love to find out how they got my cell phone number

[redqueen]

29. Nice kick.

I don't believe you for a second.

[alteredstate]

35. I don't engage in Edwards bashing on this board

I did receive the call.

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. Neither do I!

[Cha]

47. You don't speak well for Edward,

either..I don't believe John Edwards was behind this but I believe the poster.

[redqueen]

53. They said "from the Edwards campaign".

What do you believe?

Shit shit! I just kicked it again! :dunce:

*sigh*... I only meant to respond to you... argh. :banghead:

[alteredstate]

51. I received the call again

at my home phone number.

[redqueen]

57. What makes you so sure it's from the Edwards campaign?

[robbedvoter]

17. Clenis did it! ALWAYS! (used to be "the butler" - not since 1992!)

[Blarch]

25. Edwards is not above lying to get elected.

[LibraLiz1973]

28. You know this how?

[frogmarch]

26. Maybe the caller was from an opponent's campaign

trying to make Edwards look bad. It happens.

[otohara]

30. I Got Call from Hillary - Called JE Opportunist

I said, if you're going to start calling the other candidates names, I'll hang up right now! Young kid, he said, okay, okay...I won't. Then he got frustrated and told me to go work for Dennis Kucinich and promptly hung up.

[jackson_dem]

31. They probably meant CAFTA, which Obama agreed with on the merits

He claims he voted against it as a protest vote because not enough time was given to air labor union's concerns. It is another instance of Obama triangulating an issue but it is clear, from his own writings in his book, that he had no objection to CAFTA on the merits.

As to free trade in general, Obama supports it. Read his book. He has exactly the same view Hillary and Bill Clinton have on the issue.

[avaistheone1]

40. Obama is pro-free trade. He has been quoted on it many times.

So I would not be surprised if Obama supports NAFTA.

[sandnsea]

50. He doesn't

He believes in the concept of free trade, not trade as it has been implemented.

"And although I believe that free trade - when also fair - can benefit workers in both rich and poor nations, I think that the current NAFTA regime lacks the worker and environmental protections that are necessary for the long-term prosperity of both America and its trading partners. I would therefore favor, at minimum, a significant renegotiation of NAFTA and the terms of the President’s fast track authority."

http://www.blackcommentator.com/48/48_cover.html

This was back during his Senate race, so he has taken this exact same position all along.

[hayu_lol]

41. The numbers of these calls and the types of calls lead me to think...

that the GOP is involved in them. They used these tactics in 2000 and 2004.

Pretty hard to tell the difference between an opponent and the GOP in these things.

Fascinating that so many here are so quick to place the blame.

[midnight]

49. And so now they come after Edwards.....He must be doing

much better.

[alteredstate]

54. I'm not "coming after" anyone.

[alteredstate]

55. I've come to John Edwards' defense more than once on this board.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4120626#4121186

[mondo joe]

56. How dare he challenge the prince?