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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:22 PM
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Obama will be better off and learn from this experience (re:Hillary)
Now that Hillary is schooling Obama in the art of campaign warfare Obama will learn and get a good experience from this to be a better candidate in the future. While Obama supporters may not like it now they will appreciate how much stronger and better a candidate Obama will be because of Hillary's hardball campaign.

Obama is learning from a master, and this will be a big help to him in the future. If you are going to learn, its best to learn a hard lesson that will be most instructive for you.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:22 PM
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1. You mean for his re-election in 2012? nt
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:24 PM
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2. no, I mean when he runs for president again in the future
I don't think he will beat Hillary this time.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:25 PM
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3. Darth Vader?
The thought that it is a lesson that 'has to be learned' is to me very cynical if not absolutely bankrupt, and it's the result of too many years of Clintonian and Rovian politics in our party and our country.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:42 PM
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14. It's fookin' bankrupt on hilary and her surrogates'
part, fair dinkum
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:30 PM
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4. Yeah, being the target of a bully is the best way to toughen someone up nt
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:36 PM
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8. Alas, America loves bullies and that's why she's ahead.
They're also trained to view politics as a winner-take-all sport, rather than a collaborative process to improve society.

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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:37 PM
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9. Facts & knowledge can be intimidating -- hardly bullying. Now unilaterally
and pre-emptively bombing a country such as Pakistan ... now that's bullying. But alas, that is just a world point of view.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:31 PM
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5. "Obama is learning from a master..."
Obama is the most natural politician I've ever seen.

The only lesson he might learn is dirty politics from Hillary or Bill, but thats all.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:32 PM
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6. How to be polarizing? How to conduct a scorched earth campaign?
How to alienate the most reliably Democratic voting bloc with a stupid racebaiting Southern Strategy?

Obama does need to learn, and sharpen his skills, but not from the Clintons. They're a damn sight better than repukes (not saying much there) but they are NOT the best we can do for our party.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:34 PM
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7. All Republicans and half the Democrats hate her
Please explain how this is good for anything. She's going to find herself all alone in November. Mark my words.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:37 PM
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11. sweeping statements
Please, "all republicans and half of Democrats hate her"
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:47 PM
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16. Blinders??
Which part do you think is untrue?
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heidler1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:46 PM
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15. I hope that reminders that Hillary over playing her hand is what hurt the Dems. chances in NOV.
She put Obama on the spot and when he responded to her attacks she accused him of having canned rebuttals. I'm glad he was ready for her. I'm still not sure who actually won the debate, but I hope it was Obama.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:37 PM
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10. Yes, Hillary learned her tactics from the GOP.
Obama should learn those, too?
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:40 PM
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12. I don't want him to learn campaign tactics from the Clintons or Rove/Bush.
If he doesn't think there is a better way, I am wrong about him.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:41 PM
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13. How can Obama possibly use the Southern Strategy employed by Hill?
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