MSNBC/MASON DIXON SC POLL: OBAMA 38% CLINTON 30% EDWARDS 19% UNDECIDED 13%

[Herman Munster]

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/459178.html

Barack Obama leads Hillary Clinton in South Carolina, where their increasingly bitter rivalry has opened a deep racial divide among Democrats days before the party’s first primary in the South on Saturday, according to a new McClatchy-MSNBC poll. African-Americans in South Carolina break solidly for Obama, with 59 percent supporting the Illinois senator, 25 percent behind New York Sen. Clinton, 4 percent for former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and 12 percent undecided.

White voters see the primary from the opposite direction: 40 percent support Edwards, 36 percent back Clinton, 10 percent are behind Obama and 14 percent are undecided. "It’s still a racially divided state," said J. Brad Coker, the managing partner of Mason Dixon Polling & Research, which conducted the survey. With African-Americans expected to dominate the voting, their strong support gave Obama the overall edge. The statewide landscape, as of Wednesday night: -Obama, 38 percent. -Clinton, 30 percent. -Edwards, 19 percent. -Undecided, 13 percent. The poll's error margin was plus or minus 5 percentage points.

[jackson_dem]

1. Obama down to 10% among whites?

Think of the fallout if he actually finishes in the single digits with whites...

[Herman Munster]

2. if he only gets 10% of the white vote, that will be all the talking heads will talk about

[jackson_dem]

5. And the symbolism will be terrible for him if he falls into the single digits

Things could get ugly if he narrowly wins thanks to 75-80% black support but gets 8% white support. It is hard to spin a result like this as not being racial.

[bigdarryl]

6. Zogby has him at 17% and thats what i am sticking with

[jackson_dem]

7. Clemson has him at 11%

10%, 11%, 17%, and 24% are what he is getting. All of them suck since he is third with whites but getting 73% black support. The media will have no choice but to state the obvious: the result was racial.

[BeyondGeography]

23. I forget...How'd Obama do with whites in Iowa and New Hampshire?

[jackson_dem]

30. You mean before the racial flap?

It is a shame Obama sacrificed his campaign just to win one primary.

[BeyondGeography]

32. Get help

:eyes:

[jackson_dem]

33. Get some hard liquor for Super Tuesday

[angie_love]

8. wow

I can see you two can hardly contain your glee and foaming at the mouths. I've never seen such disgusting behavior from democratics, that actually WANT a divided party among racial lines. I thought it was just republicans but coming from democrats too, wow. Herman, why do you keep posting these racial posts? Are you racist or sometihng?

[jackson_dem]

11. Obama introduced race into the campaign. Now he will go down in flames because of it

Karma sucks, barack!

[Alexander]

15. "Obama-Osama", "Obama's a Muslim", "Obama dealt drugs"...

Remind me again how Obama "introduced race into the campaign". And no, "because he's black" isn't an answer.

[Occam Bandage]

17. Jesse Jackson Jr. mentioned Katrina. Shocking, I know.

[jackson_dem]

18. Michelle Obama: "black America will wake up"

[Alexander]

22. That was well after the racist attacks I mentioned in #15.

And how is it bad, exactly, that black people realize that the Clintons have been taking their votes for granted?

[jackson_dem]

24. You are making it up. She said that in November last year

[Alexander]

26. The "Obama's a Muslim" story has been around since mid-2007.

And you didn't answer my question.

[jackson_dem]

29. What do the Clintons have to do with a Fox smear?

[Occam Bandage]

16. Speaking of which, about that bet...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4183128&mesg_id=4184128

[bigdarryl]

3. fuck all these other polls my bets on Zogby's polls hes been right on every primary state except...

NH HE'S BEEN DEAD ON!!!!

[fletcherwalker]

4. New York, New Jersey , California n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

19. What are states that aren't as racist as South Carolina?

Was that for $1000 Alex?

[jackson_dem]

28. Obamites already swiftboating (white) Democrats in SC as racists...

Blacks and whites are voting for candidates of their race at roughly the same rates. Or at least they were before Obama tanked to 10-11% with whites.


PP polling

Obama: 73% of the black vote
Edwards/Hillary: 73% of the white vote

[gmudem]

9. I see that Clinton supporters are happy about this racial divide

The Clinton's aren't racist, but they are absolutely playing the race card. Win at all costs, you know.

I have a hard time understanding why Clinton supporters are so happy about how racial this has become. One would think Democrats are better than that.

[jackson_dem]

10. How did Obama get to 59-73% with blacks with Hill at 11-24% and Edwards at 2-5%?

Obama didn't play the race game? :rofl:

[gmudem]

27. So the Clintons are innocent in all of this?

Remind me again who nearly abandoned their campaign in the state and dismissed it as meaningless because of the number of black voters? Please.

[jackson_dem]

31. Both Obama and Hillary are to blame. Obama was dumber because of the numbers

Hillary can survive with 11% of the black vote after South Carolina; Obama is done if he is limited to 11% of the white vote.

[Alexander]

12. Here goes Herman with the race-baiting again...

[David Zephyr]

Race is the hallmark of a Herman Munster thread.

I wouldn't recognize one if the ingredient was missing.

[Alexander]

20. Agreed. The racist anti-Obama posts here are really disgusting.

And they seem to come from a select few people here at DU.

[jackson_dem]

21. Let's ignore the obvious which the media will focus on after the vote

We don't want to hurt an Obamite's feelings. 73% with one group, 10% with another. What is going on? Edwards is at 40% with one and at 0-5% with another. Same thing, switch the colors.

[Alexander]

25. Well you're ignoring Herman's constant race-baiting, so fair's fair.

[Thrill]

13. If you think this is a good thing for the Democratic Party, you're a fool

Republicans are loving this. This is why I don't think Clinton or Obama are able to win the GE. Its sad

[Proud2BAmurkin]

14. Obama did the one thing he could NOT do if he wanted to win. His candidacy is a failure.