NBC/WSJ Poll (national): McCain: 46% Clinton 44%; McCain: 42% Obama 42%

[book_worm]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120121663246015023.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Both Clinton and Obama fair about as well against McCain, meaning a dead heat. The biggest difference is that there are more undecideds in a Obama vs. McCain race. Natch, they didn't poll to see how Edwards would do.

[angie_love]

1. thanks

thanks for posting this. the hillbots were creaming themselves over the other poll that had Hillary beating McCain. These polls will certainly change closer to November though. I remember Kerry was beating Bush early on, and then later lost so who knows.

[neutron]

9. GE, NBC and the msm want the Clinton's Out

The xtreme left can't figure out that there's a reason?
Clinton is going to be a lot tougher on corporate interests
than Obama. That is why MSM is trying to kill off Bill - a major
asset to the campaign.

[earthlover]

11. That's what I hate about Hillary Herd lemmings...they try to pretend reality doesn't exist!

Or maybe they can invent their own reality.

Hillary is corporate through and through. Hell,she even served on the board of directors of WalMart. She is buddy-buddy with Rupert Murdoch.

The MSM is not trying to kill Bill. They want a Republican to win and they see crap like Bill is pulling as helpful to their cause.

[neutron]

31. So THAT's why the Right Wing hates the Clintons - they're too Corporate

yeah. It all fits togeher.
That's why Blitzer, Matthews and all the people liberals love are trashing Clinton
and having Hillary haters like Bernstein on their shows.
That's why Blitzer had FOUR guests on his show, and all four bashed Bill Clinton.
GE, Time Warner, CNN, NBC, MSNBC. All are after Clinton's pelt.
That's why the Right Wing goes apeshit at the name Clinton.

They're too CORPORATE!

All this time, I'd thought the Right Wing had BOUGHT OFF a certain liberal blog
to promentantly post Clinton smears.
Because I couldn't figure out how the Left Wing was thinking EXACTLY like the Right Wing.

But you explained it all so clearly.
Thank you so much!

[AndyTiedye]

22. GE Makes More on War Than They Do On All of NBC. GE Wants McCain to Give Them a Bigger War

[Alexander]

2. But the Shillbots tell me Obama would lose to McCain, so it MUST be true!

Wait, you mean the Shillbots don't always tell the truth?

:crazy:

[earthlover]

15. The truth? The Hillary Herd prefers propaganda....

[Alexander]

17. LOL, "Hillary Herd"! Nice.

Some of them really do follow her around like a flock of sheep.

[ozone_man]

3. Edwards beats McCain handily.

Why take the risk of another eight years of McCain. Weren't the past eight years difficult enough? :)

[MadBadger]

14. Show me that poll.

[last_texas_dem]

32. Here is one

Yeah, it is about a month and a half old, but it shows Edwards doing quite a bit better against McCain than either Clinton or Obama.

>>>>The poll also shows that Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona would do best against leading Democrats. He beats Clinton by 2 percentage points (50 percent to 48 percent), ties Obama (48 percent to 48 percent) and loses to Edwards by a smaller margin (8 points) than the other Republican candidates do.>>>>>

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/10/poll.head.to.head/index.html

[MadBadger]

33. Thats the problem I'm having. Lots of Edwards Supporters quote 1 single poll that is a month old.

[redqueen]

35. From what I've read on here that's the last time they included Edwards in the poll.

Gee, I wonder why.

[featherman]

4. Truly meaningless at this point - Carter led reagan, Dukakis led

Bush in these early opinion polls. I take it all with a grain of salt.

[Catchawave]

5. Why are they leaving Edwards off the head-to-head polls?

He's always run 3rd Nationally for the Dems, but the only candidate beating ALL GOP consistently. Then they dropped him :shrug:

[DaLittle Kitty]

18. They Do NOT Include Edwards Because He IS The Worst Case Scenario FOR ANY Republican Nominee!

and... as "The Voice of Corporate America The MSM and ESPECIALLY.. The Wall Street Journal as The Singular Communication Vehicle For Business... IS Acutely Disdainful of ANY Candidate that HAS The BALLs To Take Them on DIRECTLY and Challenge the Corporatist Agenda...

That IS THE THREAT that John Edwards presents and Specifically WHY he's ignored... :eyes: :think:

[VolcanoJen]

6. Meaningless.

I'm still an Obama Girl, but honestly, let's not look at matchup polls until after Labor Day.

[book_worm]

7. I agree, but I'm sick of all the Clinton posts earlier today saying that

Hillary beats McCain while McCain beats Obama when in all these polls it's a deadheat.

[VolcanoJen]

10. Fair enough.

:-)

[mzmolly]

8. Hillary Clinton has already been dragged through the RW mud.

Obama hasn't.

Both results are essentially the same given the poll's margin of error.

I do find this encouraging - The Democrats' eventual nominee will start with a leg up: 48% of Americans want a Democrat to be elected president, and 30% a Republican.

[IndianaGreen]

19. Hillary will be attacked by the antiwar Left, and rightly and deservingly so

I don't think she can survive a two-front war.

[mzmolly]

29. You do have a point, however

I think many former Nader supporters have learned something from the Gore = Bush mantra that has been proven absurd? I am a loud/proud member of the "antiwar left," but I intend to support the Democratic nominee as I don't want another decade of war.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

12. Clinton vetted, Obama not vetted nt

[jackson_dem]

16. Once he gets vetted he may be down to the 30's against McCain

[AndyTiedye]

24. "Vetted"? You Mean Swift-Boated, Don't You?

[Colobo]

13. Obama is our best choice to beat McCain.

[ClericJohnPreston]

20. Gee

I wonder why they didn't poll Edwards......as if we Edwards supporters don't already know!

John BEATS all Rethugs, hands down. The others...eh, no room for error.

[MadBadger]

25. Show me that poll.

[Radical Activist]

21. So Obama has room to grow

He can get more public support. Everyone knows about Hillary Clinton and she's getting as much support now as she ever will.

[Dollface]

23. Of course they left Edwards out. They can't buy him.

[Art_from_Ark]

26. So it's going to come down to Yosemite Sam

versus Heckle or Jeckle.

Great

[Neshanic]

27. Well, there you have it.

[ginchinchili]

28. This should be a cake walk for the Dems, you fucking morons.

I'm livid because of the Democrats' inability to use their heads in picking a candidate. Polls have McCain beating Clinton and Obama before the general even starts, and the Democrats are still walking around in circles picking their asses muttering gibberish about how great Hillary or Obama is. In the mean time, the Republicans are getting over their emotional obstacles and circling around their most electable candidate. Why can't the Democrats do at least that much?!! This country is doomed, and you've just doomed the Democratic Party along with it.

[goodgd_yall]

30. Republicans are not "circling around"

their most electable candidate if our distaff site is any clue. There seems to be a lot of disdain for McCain. Romney seems to be favored over there, but who are the non-political junky Republicans going for?

[Robbins]

34. Polls

The fact remains Mccain will be a tough opporent.let's admit that.We should hope Romney wins In
Florida because he Is easier to beat.People should remember at times Bush was leading Gore by double
digets and we aw they had to steal it to keep Gore out.Obama being tied with Mccain Is good news.
Why once he appeared he would lose easily to Hillary.He Is such a threat the Clinton machine has
to try to destroy him.Some want to Ignore reality but Obama Is more popular with Independents.With
Obama we have a chance to beat Mccain among them.And the fact remains some Democrats don't like her.
Don't forget people part of Reagen's two victorys and Bush 1's victory was because some working class Democrats voted for them over Carter,Mondale,and Dukakis.Mccain has the poential to get some
Democrat votes.But Some who don't like Hillary would vote for Obama and Obama has the poentail to reach some voters who went for Bush.Roosevelt,Truman,Kennedy,Johnson,Carter all won by building up coalion of voters,and for the most part they were liked.I can assure you for a fact In my family Hillary Is not popular.Look at the ratings of Senators Obama has more of a Liberal voting record
than she does.Say what you want about Obama's health care plan History shows The Clintons failed
miserbly with their health care plan before,and It cost us Congress.As a Great Missouri Democrat
named Harry Truman said the Buck stops here.So part of that loss has to be on the Clintons.Imagne
how hard It will be to go after Obama on the war by Republicans.He came out and oppossed It while
The CLintons were supporting Bush.Even In 2006 Obama was with Kerry and others for a timetable to
get out of Iraq while Hillary was oppossed.Hillary can be attacked as a flipflopper on Iraq by Mccain Obama can't.WHen the final Bankrupcicy bill passed Hillary voted for It Obama did not.
Obama has propsed making the wealthy pay more In Social security while Hillary attacked him saying It was a tax Increase using Republican talking points.And the fact that Obama Is getting support from Democrats who win In States that Bush won should say something about Electabilty.