Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why do Clinton haters love Obama?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:49 PM
Original message
Why do Clinton haters love Obama?
List the reasons you hate the Clintons, particularly Bill. Then open your eyes and realize Obama is exactly what you hate in your Clinton caricature.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. No, pretty sure it's just the clintons that I have a problem with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:55 PM
Response to Original message
2. Why do Obama haters love Hillary?
List the reasons you hate Obama. Then open your eyes and realize Hillary is exactly what you hate in your Obama caricature.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Okay...
Inexperienced.
Immature.
Cult of personality.
Celebrity "rock star" worship
Empty Suit
Blank Slate
Holds fundraisers with Ex-gay homophobe
Thinks Reagan was better President than Bill Clinton
Voted for Cheney's energy policy
refuses to take responsibility for votes/not showing up to vote
.....I am not seeing Hillary here.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. half your list is lies, try again.
you can do better, i know you can!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. none are lies... but you are conceding that half are right on.... so that's a start.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoveRage Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. I see plenty of Hillary in that post....especially the distortions and outright lies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Where are the distortions? And what items on my list apply to Hillary?
I'll be waiting, and please provide links to any claims. Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoveRage Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. Where did he say Reagan was a better President than Clinton?
Please back it up with a linky.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #5
15. Let's see.
1. Both.
2. Lie.
3. Lie.
4. Both.
5. Both/Lie.
6. Both.
7. Valid.
8. Lie.
9. Distortion.
10. Both.

So, er, 1.5/10. Whee!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. #9 is definitely not a distortion.... most of these are subjective, but that is a "valid"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoveRage Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Subjective? Translation.....distortions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. No..... and the conversation I was having was about Obama's
approval of Cheney's energy policy..... care to defend that/explain why there is no difference with Hillary?
Thanks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoveRage Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. You listed a shit-load more than that one thing.....backing away from the others?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. I am not backing away from anything... can you read the exchange upthread?
I stand by all of my points. Unless you can prove them otherwise, they stand.
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoveRage Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. Yes, in your world, I'm sure they stand.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Yes you are correct. I am a member of the reality based community.
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoveRage Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Tell yourself that.....over and over and over again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #5
31. More Hillary Herd drivvel
As to inexperienced, he has as much or more elected experience as Clinton. As to non-elected experience, Clinton has experience in the Board of Directors of Walmart while Obama was doing community work. I like his experience better in that regard.

If you think you are more mature than Obama, then call him immature. But I doubt it. It wasn't Obama who nearly cried, forchrissake.

As to the "cult of personality" that is just your view....but I observe that the followers of Hillary are so into lemming-like behavior I call them the Hillary Herd for good reason. At least Obama has a personality.

As to empty suit or blank slate....that just shows your ignorance. Obama has lots of positions on the issues that you could find out about if you were not part of the Herd.

Your thing about thinking Reagan was a better president is a down right lie on our part! Not even worth discussing other than to point out that, like other members of the Herd, you distort the truth. I guess parsing the truth depends on what the meaning of the word is is.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
25. I don't hate Obama, but: I have a serious problem with his use of
McClurkin to kiss the ass of religious bigots. And the same for his new buddy - Bush's "spiritual adviser".

Along that line, I don't like his preachyness - talking about abortion being a "prayerful" decision, for exanple.

To tell you the truth, however, this week I've begun to feel I hate Obama. And I don't think it's due to anything he's done, but the nastyness in this forum, in particular a few posters who I have felt were extremely uncaring about the GLBT response to the McClurkin incident and, IMO, dishonest about it.

So I can understand hating Hillary or anyone else - they get tainted by their supporters sometimes, regardless of their own activities.

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:56 PM
Response to Original message
3. Keep going, don't stop! You're on a troll....I mean roll.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Best post of the day!
LOL!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. You Clinton hating suckers are in for a hell of a ride if Obama wins
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:03 PM by jackson_dem
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #7
19. Why? Because evil racists won't vote for him?
Ooooh, scary. I already knew that anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. No, because he is exactly what you hate! Obama is Bill Clinton -2.0, a downgraded version
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. Obama's a race-baiting, intern-banging, DOMA and NAFTA-supporting liar?
Hmm, something tells me I shouldn't believe you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. He is a race-baiting, gay baiting, "free" trader with the same position on gay issues
I don't know if he has banged any interns. I know that is a big issue for folks. :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. Untrue. You're presenting more lies than Bill Clinton ever did.
Nice try.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. LOL
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:56 PM
Response to Original message
4. Why do Obama haters love Clinton?
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:57 PM by Occam Bandage
List the reasons you hate Obama. Then open your eyes and realize Clinton is exactly what you hate in your Obama caricature.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. You beat me to asking that
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:07 PM
Response to Original message
12. I suspect on both sides, the hate starts here on DU
not in the real world. It begins with hero worship. As soon as the idol is defiled, the worshipper sees red and goes into permanent attack mode.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:08 PM
Response to Original message
14. I dislike them both equally, for different reasons
:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:13 AM
Response to Original message
33. more cheap and ugly flamebait from a master of the "art"
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 07:31 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC