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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:39 PM
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Obama's $300,000 question: Rezko?
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 11:40 PM by Dante_
Are we just getting to know the real Obama?

"In sharp contrast to his tough talk about ethics reform in government, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., approached a well-known Illinois political fixer under active federal investigation, Antoin "Tony" Rezko, for "advice" as he sought to find a way to buy a house shortly after being elected to the United States Senate."

"The parcel included an adjacent lot which Obama told the Chicago Tribune he could not afford because "it was already a stretch to buy the house."

On the same day Obama closed on his house, Rezko's wife bought the adjacent empty lot, meeting the condition of the seller who wanted to sell both properties at the same time.

Rezko had been widely reported to be under investigation by the U.S. attorney and the FBI at the time Obama contacted him and has since been indicted on corruption charges by a federal grand jury in a case that prosecutors say involves bribes, kickbacks and "efforts to illegally obtain millions of dollars."
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http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4111483&page=1


and

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/749138,obama20web.article

"A longstanding relationship

Rezko is one of Obama’s earliest political patrons. Long known as a prolific fund-raiser, the Syrian-born businessman helped raise money for Obama’s political campaigns beginning in 1995, when Obama was running for the Illinois Senate.

In 13 years in politics, Obama has gotten at least $168,000 in campaign donations from Rezko, his family and business associates. The Sun-Times reported that figure last June. Obama’s “best estimate” seven months earlier had been that Rezko had raised no more than $60,000 for him.

When Obama ran for the U.S. Senate, Rezko held a June 27, 2003, cocktail party in Rezko’s Wilmette mansion, picking up the tab for the lavish event. Obama’s campaign staff has said it has no records to show who attended that party, or how much it cost.

Obama’s relationship with Rezko dates to 1990, when Obama, then a Harvard law student, interviewed for a job with Rezko’s development company, Rezmar Corp. Obama turned down the job, instead going to work for a small Chicago law firm — Davis Miner Barnhill. That firm did work on more than a dozen low-income housing projects Rezmar rehabbed with government funds.

Eleven Rezmar buildings were in the state Senate district Obama represented between 1996 and 2004. Many of the buildings ended up in foreclosure, with tenants living in squalid conditions, the Sun-Times reported last year. In one instance, Rezko’s company left tenants without heat for five weeks. Obama said he was unaware of problems with the buildings and minimized the legal work he’d done.

Obama’s relationship with Rezko grew closer in June 2005, when Obama and Rezko’s wife bought adjoining real estate parcels from a doctor in the South Side Kenwood neighborhood. Obama paid $1.65 million for the doctor’s mansion, while Rezko’s wife paid $625,000 for the vacant lot next door. Obama’s purchase price was $300,000 below the asking price; Rezko’s wife paid full price.

Six months later, Obama paid Rita Rezko $104,500 for one-sixth of the vacant lot, which he bought to expand his yard. In November 2006, he expressed regret about the transaction.

“It was a mistake to have been engaged with him at all in this or any other personal business dealing that would allow him, or anyone else,” Obama said, “to believe that he had done me a favor.”

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water Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:40 PM
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1. Which is more palatable in the general election...
... this controversy, the Hsu controversy, or the fact that Edwards is a millionaire trial lawyer? This.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:43 PM
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6. I have no idea, but Obama made it seem like he hardly knew these people/5 hours
I smell a sinking ship. Let us see how Obama deals with this. We know the Clintons can take a punch and stay standing.

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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:53 AM
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31. Obama IS Quite Simply A Prevaricator of Considerable Proportion and This IS NOT The ONLY Issue That
Obama has fibbed about... Think about it folks........... Before you vote... That's all that I will say... BTW Clinton is no better, however you do have a better choice if you look past the media blackout and :think:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:43 PM
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7. A millionaire trial lawyer. Thank goodness people like him can hold corporations accountable...
when they injure and maim people with no other means to get compensation for their injuries.
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water Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:45 PM
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10. I'm not talking about the Democratic base's opinion...
... think about the average voter.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:49 PM
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16. Honestly, the "millionaire trial lawyer" is the most palatable.
.... but there are plenty of other issues to consider.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:50 PM
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18. BIG SMILE
I like your style.

have we met before?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:42 PM
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2. This has been posted about 100 times
got anything to add to the discussion?

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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:44 PM
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9. The $300,000 below market value and next door neighbor has been posted?
really?

"A longstanding relationship


Obama’s relationship with Rezko grew closer in June 2005, when Obama and Rezko’s wife bought adjoining real estate parcels from a doctor in the South Side Kenwood neighborhood. Obama paid $1.65 million for the doctor’s mansion, while Rezko’s wife paid $625,000 for the vacant lot next door. Obama’s purchase price was $300,000 below the asking price; Rezko’s wife paid full price.

Six months later, Obama paid Rita Rezko $104,500 for one-sixth of the vacant lot, which he bought to expand his yard. In November 2006, he expressed regret about the transaction.

“It was a mistake to have been engaged with him at all in this or any other personal business dealing that would allow him, or anyone else,” Obama said, “to believe that he had done me a favor.”

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:42 PM
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3. Yawing today......
Just like I was yawing when folks were working themselves up to a lather about Reagan and what Obama said last week.

Really, really no there there.

But thanks for trying. :boring:
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:48 PM
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14. Yawn? Really? $300,000 below market value?
where can I get such a deal?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:57 PM
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20. Ask Hedgefund Johnny,
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 11:58 PM by FrenchieCat
I'm sure he can hook you up. Took him a couple of phone calls to clear 450,000 Gs!



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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:02 AM
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22. DO you hate success?
So if a guy is rich he cannot be serious about helping the poor? even if he comes from them?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:11 AM
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25. maybe you can get a deal like that with Duke Cunningham?
and sayyyyyyyyyy..Abramoff???

how can YOU Say..owned?????????

and we wonder why nothing gets done in congress about the crooks?????????

and we as Dem's have sat here day after day bitching that Dem's have not done what we sent them to DC to do?????

and yet Obama supporters will just as easily as the bush-bots did ..overlook this bullshit????????



yeah that speaks volumes about who are here for what reasons..

fly
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:22 AM
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26. I want a deal like that.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:42 PM
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4. Obama did not buy the land from Rezko. He did nothing wrong.
Your are furthering Guilt By Association.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:45 PM
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12. They bought houses next door...at the same time. Fishy?
The wife of a major contributor under investigation at the time of sale...and he claimed he didn't know about the guy?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:02 AM
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21. Obama's wife was a friend of Rezko's wife
Sometimes people buy property because a friend told them about it.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:11 AM
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24. Obama went to this guy who was under investigation. $300,000.00 below value?
I'm sorry, if that ain't a favor or something...and then the land for the yard. A millionaire buys the property next door. Why? In order to pay back with some land?

come on.

be honest.

does it pass the smell test of a change candidacy?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:35 AM
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30. Rezko's wife was the one who bought property.
Rezko was not under investigation then.

This has nothing to do with Obama's ability to lead this Country and affect change, does it?
Be honest.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:30 AM
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34. As a matter of fact Rezco WAS under investigation at the time. That is why this is a story
hello? anybody home?

lead and affect change? Obama needs to be held to teh same standards as everyone else. what is so hard about that?
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mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:42 PM
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5. Screw You, Hillary Shill
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:47 PM
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13. Shill? I don't come from Chicago, so no thanks. and anyway I use condoms
Nice spam...you do your side no good.

STOP THE HATE!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:43 PM
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8. Thanks for the post, they just discussed this on CNN.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:45 PM
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11. What did they say? It is about time the media starting reporting this 2006 story
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:48 PM
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15. They'll sit on it a bit more - until they may saddle us with a scandal riddled
candidate - then you'll see fireworks!
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:57 PM
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19. Thats what I have been trying to say. Vet him now not when
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 11:58 PM by Little Star
it's to late and the Repigs do it for us along with the corporate media. Why can't people see that this needs to be done now? He is so evasive when confronted and he gives half truths in response. I had four kids who tried that crap on me and my lying by omission radar is well oiled.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:05 AM
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23. Vet him. Why has he not been vetted? IS he the Heaven's Gate Candidate?
Seriously, I have gotten used to the idea of backing him if he wins, but he needs to come clean and stop riding the high horse
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:56 AM
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32. Notwithstanding The Peter Paul and Norman HSU Chinese Dishwasher Armtwisting By The Clinton Gang...
That is NEVER REPORTED... Whether it's HillBill or Obama... That IS The Goal to saddle US w/ a dirtbag candidate... loaded w/ baggage and/or SKELETONS that are beyond the pall....!

GD... it Vote Edwards you MORONS! :nuke:
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:32 AM
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35. If it's not reported...how do YOU know about it? Obama says he is above it all.
Taking the pedestal out from under him will make him more attractive. He has no date with destiny. He will have to pull back the curtain.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:49 PM
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17. My only concern is how the spankers (youngsters) in the campaigns will react
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 11:49 PM by Dante_
If this makes Obama stink....will the spankers take their balls and go home?

will they not show up and take a stand against the GOP?
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:23 AM
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27. NYT's has endorsed Sen Clinton !
for real :http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x334037

So, why are you slamming my candidate instead of making hay about this major endorsement ? Seems I remember how everyone on this board bemoaned these kind of Rovian tactics of personal destruction for the last 7+ years.

Stop making me dislike Sen Clinton more than I already do....thanks mainly to her rabid fans here at DU. :evilfrown:
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:32 AM
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29. You already admit to Rovian hate of Hillary. Obama took the high road. a lie?
we'll see.

I will support him if he wins. I want the GOP out of the White House. Maybe you don't care enough? You will have a choice come november. Third party loser...stay home, GOP or Democrat
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:59 AM
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33. dislike =hate ?
go figure....
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:33 AM
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36. go figure? hmmm. So you dislike and do not hate?
How nice of you.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:38 AM
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37. During the debate Obama made it appear he hardly knew these people.
First Obama attacked Clinton first...instead of pushing his own ideas...he went after with a cheap shot..Hillary and Wal-Mart. He got hit back. He should stop whining. What would he do if the GOP came after him, cry?
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:24 AM
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28. rezko goes on trial in february and even though obama is not
name in the indictment he is better known as the "UNKNOWN POLITICIAN" This will inturn do damage to obama since the mediawhores will link renzko/obama....but then again obama will be so far back in delegates he will be hoping this thing was over.....
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:06 AM
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38. Oh man
A sad day that will forever stain the Democratic party. One incident like this and it gives weight to all those Republican rationalizations of "Oh all politicians are dirty both sides of the aisle".

If these allegations are true this is a terrible day for our country, and certainly for our party.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:33 AM
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39. All politicians are dirty. What is wrong with that? You want a saint? Go to church.
Politics is a body contact sport. It makes one come into contact with ALL people. Any politician worth voting for will have gotten close to dirt if not dirty themselves.

Perfection sucks and dreams are for sleep.
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