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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:27 AM
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Factcheck.org on Hillary Lying about Rezko/Obama ties: "That's untrue."
Obama was associated with a law firm that represented the community groups working with Rezko on several deals. There's no evidence that Obama spent much time on them, and he never represented Rezko directly. So it was wrong for Clinton to say he was "representing ... Rezko." That's untrue.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/clinton-obama_slugfest.html
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:29 AM
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1. Man, Hillary's keeping factcheck.org busy!
And they probably thought this would be a slow election considering Rove's not running anyone's campaign!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:30 AM
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3. That we know of...
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:33 AM
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5. I should have added *technically*. We all know that his playbook is in use. n/t
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:30 AM
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2. well hell the republicans investigated both clintons for 34,000
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 12:48 AM by BenDavid
dollar investment and here we talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars....There may not be any there, there, but this will be an embarassment to obama.....but then again the media is now aware of rezko and his indictment and facing trial in february, so the press is half ass at least looking into obama....
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:57 AM
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10. Fact Check glossed over Obama's association with Rezko
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 01:00 AM by neutron
They made it seem like Obama and Rezko "just happened" to buy land at the same time
adjacent each other. Obama got a house, and Rezko got a lot next door.
A few months later, Obama decided to buy part of the property that Rezko owned.
This might be small but it smells funny.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:32 AM
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4. the actual facts per today's Chicago Suntimes
1. They met in 1990. Obama was a student at Harvard Law School and got an unsolicited job offer from Rezko, then a low-income housing developer in Chicago. Obama turned it down.

2. Obama took a job in 1993 with a small Chicago law firm, Davis Miner Barnhill, that represents developers -- primarily not-for-profit groups -- building low-income housing with government funds.

3. One of the firm's not-for-profit clients -- the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., co-founded by Obama's then-boss Allison Davis -- was partners with Rezko's company in a 1995 deal to convert an abandoned nursing home at 61st and Drexel into low-income apartments. Altogether, Obama spent 32 hours on the project, according to the firm. Only five hours of that came after Rezko and WPIC became partners, the firm says. The rest of the future senator's time was helping WPIC strike the deal with Rezko. Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp., also partnered with the firm's clients in four later deals -- none of which involved Obama, according to the firm. In each deal, Rezmar "made the decisions for the joint venture," says William Miceli, an attorney with the firm.

4. In 1995, Obama began campaigning for a seat in the Illinois Senate. Among his earliest supporters: Rezko. Two Rezko companies donated a total of $2,000. Obama was elected in 1996 -- representing a district that included 11 of Rezko's 30 low-income housing projects.

5. Rezko's low-income housing empire began crumbling in 2001, when his company stopped making mortgage payments on the old nursing home that had been converted into apartments. The state foreclosed on the building -- which was in Obama's Illinois Senate district.

6. In 2003, Obama announced he was running for the U.S. Senate, and Rezko -- a member of his campaign finance committee -- held a lavish fund-raiser June 27, 2003, at his Wilmette mansion.

7. A few months after Obama became a U.S. senator, he and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought adjacent pieces of property from a doctor in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood -- a deal that has dogged Obama the last two years. The doctor sold the mansion to Obama for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife paid full price -- $625,000 -- for the adjacent vacant lot. The deals closed in June 2005. Six months later, Obama paid Rezko's wife $104,500 for a strip of her land, so he could have a bigger yard. At the time, it had been widely reported that Tony Rezko was under federal investigation. Questioned later about the timing of the Rezko deal, Obama called it "boneheaded" because people might think the Rezkos had done him a favor.

8. Eight months later -- in October 2006 -- Rezko was indicted on charges he solicited kickbacks from companies seeking state pension business under his friend Gov. Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors maintain that $10,000 from the alleged kickback scheme was donated to Obama's run for the U.S. Senate. Obama has given the money to charity.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:37 AM
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6. It reminds me of how Sadam and Al Qaeda worked together, letter written, no response...
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:58 AM
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11. not quite - Obama hired a kid at Rezko's request and the land deal help w/discount smells and the
Rezko "employee" donations of around $100k since 1994 indicate a relationship.

Nothing criminal - or even unethical - it just is hard to explain away.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:40 AM
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7. Will she apologize for the lie or pull a Bush?
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:41 AM
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8. Factcheck.org?
Factcheck.org was consistently full of shit in 2004, and they have a few really huge whoppers to their credit, such as claiming that republicans have not voted against body armor for soldiers.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:08 AM
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13. Now it all starts to add up.
Factcheck defends Republicans. Obama's a Republican. Therefore Factcheck defends Obama.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:44 AM
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9. Oh please.....
He has been associated with that guy for 18 yrs in some form or fashion. Hell, they bought property together. I consider it a flat out lie from Obama to pretend he barely knows the guy. Tony who? Yeah, right. He's channeling GW Bush on Ken Lay with that one.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:59 AM
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12. I agree - it may come back at him in the general if nominated
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:12 AM
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14. Okay. How about he personally bought property with him?
Is that good enough for you? Rezko's wife and Obamas bought adjoining land together. Rezko paid market price and Obamas paid $300,000 under. Then Rezko sold 1/6th of their land to Obama for about $100,000, when it looks like it should have been over $250,000 based on the price Obamas paid for their lot.

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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:14 AM
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15. Has anyone read the Rezko indictment? (Not trolling, Want to know)
The one thing I have not seen discussed is the Rezko indictment. Anyone in Chicago seen it? Besides the Repugs, I mean. If so, please fill us in.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:03 AM
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16. kick
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