The Myth Of The Democrats Being Torn Apart

[realFedUp]

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/1/25/8275/26127

read the comments below this blogger's post also...for a rational
take on what's happening.

The Myth Of The Democrats Being Torn Apart

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2008 at 07:27:05 AM EST

Sometimes it seems like the Media and some of the blogs have never watched a primary campaign before. The level of moaning and wailing about the "divisive" campaign among the Democrats and how Dems will never be able to come together after it is absurd. Earth to pundits, this is the way primary battle ALWAYS are. ALWAYS. These pronouncements of an unbridgeable divide are simply ridiculous. All this divisiveness in South Carolina should be reflected in the favorable ratings of the candidates right? Then let's look at the respected Mason Dixon poll:

FAV UNFAV NEUTRAL
Obama 63% 15% 22%
Clinton 57% 14% 29%
Edwards 54% 16% 28%
How about Bill Clinton? A whopping 75% favorable rating. It is interesting that the voters are not as whiny and misguided on this than the pundits and some of the blogs. They seem to know what politics is. One last note - the Media's withering criticism coupled with the GOP debate attacks on Hillary Clinton last night is a familiar refrain - and one that will lead to a familiar result, Dems rallying around the Clintons. Some folks never learn. More . . .

Consider this contrary attitude from Josh Marshall when discussing the Republican race:
Candidly, I was surprised that there wasn't more contentiousness in tonight's GOP debate in Florida. After all, probably at least two candidacies will end Tuesday night. So the stakes were extraordinarily high.
This is an accurate insight in my mind. Funny how it is not applied to the Dem race.
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[rodeodance]

1. Thanks much for the post.

[featherman]

2. Agree... did the MSM types just fall out of the sky?

I've been around the block in primary season quite a few times. This is pretty mild so far.

[mondo joe]

3. If the party breaks because of the primary, the party is too fragile.

Of course, all the drama aside, the party is fine.

[Bullet1987]

5. No primary has ever seen an African-American and Woman

BOTH be viable before either. Blame the Media is, and always has been, a weak defense.

[mondo joe]

8. The fact remains: if this breaks the party, the party is too fragile.

[Dante_]

12. SHAME! Carol Mosley Braun...a twofer

We had both in one.

STOP regurgitating the media spin.


THINK FOR YOURSELF

[pampango]

16. Come on. The poster said "viable", not "worthy" or "I would vote for her."

There have been other women and African Americans run for the nomination, but none have come as close as Hillary and Obama.

[Dante_]

18. the poster was talking about a woman and a black./I apologize to the original poster

that is what I commented on...not the viability of anyone

we've had a woman and a black run before...they paved the way.

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on rereading it all...I am wrong here.

I apologize to the original poster

[ShortnFiery]

4. It's no myth, if The Clintonian DLC score a 3rd reign in The Executive Branch

all liberals need not APPLY. We will NOT be represented. :thumbsdown:

[Dante_]

7. Hillary has this liberal's support.

Hillary is a godsend to liberals

[mondo joe]

10. We all get a vote. If you don't get what you want, fight harder next time.

[Tarc]

6. Sadly a lot of that BS trickles to users here too

How many dozens of "OMG THEY NEED TO STOP BEING MEAN ITS DESTROYING THE PARTY!!!" nonsense posts have been flooding in here over the last few weeks? Everyone just needs to chill and realize that a debate like this is rather healthy. I'll take this over the stagnant, back-room deals of yesteryear any day.

[Dante_]

9. I've always ignored the "Sky is falling" crowd. Hysteria is overrated as a tactic.

HELP!!!!!!

[realFedUp]

14. It seems to fill up time and posts...like the 24/7 media...

even good ole K.O. is a purveyor of it.

[rodeodance]

11. REC

[realFedUp]

15. thanks. nt

[realFedUp]

13. "The Biggest Victim"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-love/the-biggest-victim_b_83161.html

The Biggest Victim
James Love

On TPM, Greg Sargent says that Obama is "Winning Spin War Over Who's Victim."

I think this is right. Lately Obama is almost a poster child for the wronged. What is the biggest sin of the terrible Clinton attack machine? The suggestion that Obama said he likes Reagan? That Obama's anti-war record is exaggerated? Voting "present" in the Illinois State Senate? Ouch. Wow, this is "so unfair!." The Wal-Mart Rezko exchange, that began with Wal-Mart?

I'm sure I''m missing something here. But none of this strikes me as remotely rough stuff, compared to, for example, the relentless attacks on both Hillary as a candidate, and the savage portrayal of the last Democratic administration, not to mention that relatively mild but absurd suggestion that Hillary doesn't respect the achievements of Martin Luther King. Tonight on MSNBC Chris Mathews is claiming that "the Clintons" are terrible for reminding South Carolina voters that Obama is black. Huh?

But why would one want so desperately to be portrayed as a victim? Is that what the voters are looking for? I guess that's one theory of what the Democratic primary voters like. Maybe it's what campaigns think impresses the reporting classes.

[mondo joe]

17. I'm still waiting for one of the doomsayers to explain to me exactly what this destruction

will look like.

[BenDavid]

19. a complete invention by the mediawhores......the mediawhores

believe if they go after hrc and Bill this will in some way surpress the vote and folks will not vote or go and support someone else....but if history is an indicator of anything, this is what the mediwhores tried to do with both clintons and especially during the trumped up impeachment....americans were telling the press and right do not impeach but would they listen, hell no. did the mediawhores stop? No.....but one thing is for sure, WJC was cleared of any and all charges and went to a 73% approval rating and HRC was named again as most admired woman in america.....

so let the mediawhores keep on doing what they doing and instead of folks turning away, they the mediawhores will be covering the inaugural proceedings on janaury 20, 2009 of Hillary Rodham Clinton