I'm out of here until there's a nominee! Will DU still exist?

[iconoclastic cat]

I seriously can't take what I am reading here. If one reads DU and Daily Kos, it looks like an awful lot of people will sit out the election if Candidate X is nominated. I know this isn't how the general public feels, but when I'm on DU, the sense of acrimony and bitterness is unbearable. I have to bail. I can't read it anymore.

Please try not to kill each other.

[Dante_]

1. du and kos are not representative of anything but...

du and kos are not representative of anything but...du and kos.

most people are not like us...they have real lives.

speaking of which.....

[CoffeeCat]

2. Yes, but DU and Kos...

...do represent substantial, and very politically active factions in the
Democratic party.

If those factions are so disillusioned, pissed off and sick of the Hillarovian
machine--that they sit home on election day---that will usher in a Republican
presidency.

In a year when Democrats should be able to win the White House handily--that's
saying a lot.

No candidate, can win the GE without those DU- and Kos-types.

[Dante_]

3. you over state the influence we have and you don't know how small our numbers really are

it'll pass. most of the younguns are all noise any way...always have been

[CoffeeCat]

11. You're fooling yourself...

Obama supporters cut across all demographics, ethnic groups, gender and age groups.

Most of the Obama supporters in my caucus precinct were middle-aged men and women. We
had about 15-20 percent college students.

Obama supporters have always wanted something different and new. They broke away from
the establishment to vote for a candidate who hasn't been entrenched in the status-quo
for decades.

How Hillary has run her campaign--has further alienated many Obama supporters from her--
solidifying their dislike of "politics as usual"and fostered disillusionment with the
entire Democratic party.

I have to say, if she's our nominee--I will assume that her willingness to destroy a
fellow Democrat--to serve her own selfish needs---is sanctioned by our party.

I will abandon the Democratic party, for the first time in my life. I'm 43, by the way.

In the Clinton's quest for personal power--they have slashed and burned so viciously--that
many in the Democratic party are turned off on the entire party.

Do you get it????

[MonkeyFunk]

12. Nah

this has been a rather time primary season.

Nothing's being destroyed.

[CoffeeCat]

14. Easy to say when it's your candidate...

...who is doing the bulk of the destruction.

You don't see it, therefore it didn't happen?

Let me tell you something...many Obama supporters see it. Very clearly.

[Dante_]

15. the blind leading the blind

sorry

[MonkeyFunk]

19. nope

nothing's being destroyed.

It's primary season - that's all.

[Dante_]

13. it is my opinion that like the Dean movement...Obama will hit a wall where...

he has more noise makers than actual voters

[CoffeeCat]

16. Comparing Obama to Dean is laughable...

The Dean campaign evaporated before Iowans voted in the caucuses.

Dean's base was primarily young voters, who didn't bother showing up to vote.

Yes, Obama has the youth vote---but he also garnered more votes in Iowa from women, men,
and middle-aged voters than Hillary. Obama continues to come in a close second, and he's not
doing that with only the youth vote.

Just because Obama has the youth vote, doesn't mean he ONLY has the youth vote.

If Obama was primarily running on the youth vote, he would not have come in first
in Iowa, and he certainly wouldn't be running a competitive candidate against a
longstanding frontrunner. He's come in second in every race that he hasn't won,
for Pete's sake.

Dismissing Obama by suggesting that he's only got "the college kids" is
really insulting to those of us who are middle-aged and enthusiastically supporting him.
BTW--it was middle-aged, stay-at-home moms who pulled me into the Obama campaign, not
college students.

You might want to think about that...

[Dante_]

17. Comparing Dean and Obama is what? Same people with both of them

[Dante_]

18. STOP MISQUOTING ME! I feel like I'm being Obama-ed

I never said Obama had only the youth vote

[Big Blue Marble]

20. They just do not want to get it.

They are in serious denial. They are so sure we will come back and rally around HRC because we hate the Republicans more.

Some of us here and elsewhere are just tired of the politics of warfare. We honestly believe that it is not good for this country.
That is why we support Obama. We want a new political paradigm. It is very clear to me that many here are still stuck in
the old one and cannot draw enough blood even if that is Democratic blood that is spilling.

Some of us maybe lost to this party just when it was experiencing a re-emergence. I have not moved away from my democratic values.
The Clinton Democrats have moved the party away from me and a lot of other thinking caring Americans.

And as to us all being youngsters, everybody that I know who is supporting Obama is over 40, some of us well over 40.

[mtnsnake]

5. "No candidate, can win the GE without those DU- and Kos-types."??

No candidate, can win the GE without those DU- and Kos-types

No candidate, can win the GE with those DU- and Kos-types.

[jasmine621]

8. but those factions won't count if they sit out the election.

I guess to some, not voting will be taking action.

[Dante_]

10. stupidity is a right

it's in the bill of rights last time I checked

[mtnsnake]

6. K&R. You nailed it, Dante.

:thumbsup:

[Dante_]

9. we've found common ground

<*wink>


B-I-N-G-O!

[RichGirl]

4. I'm right behind you.

It's not just DU...it's cable news. They want a horse race to boost ratings. We are the trained seals jumping for the bait. It's demeaning and impossible to have a serious conversation.

[Dante_]

7. types. most of us are not one-dimensional in real life. we only act that way here

thank gawd for that