When Hillary gets the nomination and then loses to a Repuke

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Poll question: When Hillary gets the nomination and then loses to a Repuke

Which in my estimation is very, very likely to happen..Who would be the best of the worst Repuke to be stuck with for President?

Seems to me, it will be the one least likely to appoint a crackpot judge.

Our only hope now is that we get a super-majority to kill the bad stuff.

[jlake]

1. Defeatism works so well.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. I call it realism. Half the dems hate her plus all the Repukes hate

her. That's 75% in my book. Hard to win an election with 75% against you.

But then again, everyone had to have known this from the beginning. It's
just not advantageous to nominate someone with such high disappoval rates
from the very start.

[jlake]

12. Hillary will win the election. And will carry the popular vote with 55%+

Bookmark it.

[JackRiddler]

21. Entirely possible. And then she will be landslud away. Clinton 2008=Bush2012.

[JVS]

35. landslud?

[JackRiddler]

45. Past perfect of the verb to landslide, to be landslided...

She was landslud out of office.

Lighter on the wordplay, folks.

[JVS]

47. slide, slid, has slided/ slidden (archaic). I think the perfect form of landslide has to be landslid

But I like landslud too

[JackRiddler]

51. Hey, Arkansas is in the south, right?

[jlake]

42. I have no idea what you are talking about. And WTF is "landslud"?

[JackRiddler]

46. A Clinton avatar doesn't get why Clinton 2008 = Bush 2012? Oh, dear.

[jlake]

49. No, I will bet you that in 2012 she is re-elected with 60%+ of the vote.

[tandot]

33. "Half the dems hate her" ? Any links for that?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/as_campaign_season_begins_only_one_presidential_candidate_is_viewed_favorably_by_majority_of_voters

<snip>
Of course, entering the Primary season, it may be that opinions within the partisan ranks matter more than the overall numbers. McCain is viewed favorably by 66% of Republican voters nationwide, Thompson and Giuliani are viewed favorably by 65%, Romney by 57%, and Huckabee by 55%.

Among Democrats, Clinton is viewed favorably by 80% of Democratic voters, Edwards by 66%, and Obama by 61%.

(bolding added by me)

<snip>

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/favorables/election_2008_democratic_candidates_running_in_2008_presidential_election

2008 DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE

Hillary Clinton:

FAV/UNFAV RATING 51% / 47%

GENERAL ELECTION MATCH-UP

Clinton (45%) Giuliani (42%)
Clinton (48%) Huckabee (40%)
Clinton (47%) McCain (45%)
Clinton (49%) Paul (37%)
Clinton (47%) Romney (42%)
Clinton (50%) Tancredo (37%)
Clinton (46%) Thompson (44%)

Barack Obama

FAV/UNFAV RATING 50% / 44%

GENERAL ELECTION MATCH-UP

Obama (47%) Giuliani (41%)
Obama (51%) Huckabee (35%)
Obama (46%) McCain (41%)
Obama (50%) Paul (31%)
Obama (47%) Romney (38%)
Obama (48%) Tancredo (31%)
Obama (47%) Thompson (40%)

John Edwards

FAV/UNFAV RATING 52% / 41%

GENERAL ELECTION MATCH-UP

Edwards (44%) Giuliani (44%)
Edwards (49%) Huckabee (37%)
Edwards (46%) McCain (39%)
Edwards (50%) Romney (34%)
Edwards (48%) Thompson (39%)

-------------------------

So, I think all of our candidates would do well against the GOP

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. Add Edwards and Obama Fans = 50%+ ABC = Anybody but Clinton nt

[jlake]

43. But being a fan of one candidate does not = hatred of another.

I support Hillary, but would also love to cast my vote for John Edwards.

[snooper2]

34. If the Texas primarys make a difference after Super Tuesday...

Obama and Edwards will take the lions share of the delegates...

I finally found 1, yes 1 person in Texas who supports Hillary. At a local bar here in Dallas it's either Obama or Edwards. She is loathed...probably not all deserved, well, she is a corporate whore, so maybe so :)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. I'm in Texas too. All the repukes would rather walk on hot coals

than vote for her. I think it's the ABC = anybody but Clinton approach. I would love to see Edwards or Obama win !

[MADem]

2. Other. IF she gets the nom, she won't lose. Did you watch the GOP catfight last night?

Don't believe the hype from that crew of losers.

Any D nominee will win.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. I hope you are right ! Yes, watched it. Did you really think it was

a catfight? I thought they were uncommonly nice to each other. Even with their
questions to each other.

[Jennifer C]

32. Didn't seem like a catfight to me

They were deliberately being very nice to each other, most likely because of the Dem debate.

[MADem]

38. They were catfighting with the candidate that wasn't there--Senator Clinton

A bunch of fraidy-cat men who know that they'd get their clocks cleaned if they had to go up against her in a general election...

Edit, cursed typo!

[MADem]

37. Well, it was a kittycat fight compared to the fantastic LIONS that we have in the "D" field.

They spent all their time catfighting over CLINTON! They're scared shitless of her, and they're trying to get her out of the way ahead of the general!

[Tom Rinaldo]

3. I'll answer a poll like this when it isn't so obviously loaded

Simply ask which Republican would it be best to end up stuck with if the Democrqtic candidate loses and maybe I'll play with you.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. You are absolutely right! But, it emphasizes the point that it is

a real, true possibility that we'll be stuck with a Republican again.

[Tarc]

4. When did you stop beating your wife?

Aren't loaded, no-way-out questions the coolest?

[TwilightGardener]

5. Not sure she'll lose, but I think Mittens is the least batshit-insane.

Boy, that's a ringing endorsement, isn't it? :puke:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. Love it -- "Least batshit".... I was thinking that the plus for him

is that he at least he was pro-choice at one time.

[TwilightGardener]

15. Hey, he's flipped and flopped so much, he might even flip back

to the good side on some of our issues. Or not. But I'm pretty sure Hucky will invade our wombs, and McCain will keep us in Iraq for 100 years, and Rudy will bomb Iran.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Funny. spot on. One thing that worries me is that supposedly

Mitt is Bush's choice. Scares me - that Bush will share his election fraud program with him.

[TwilightGardener]

19. Well, he's Jeb's choice--I think Chimpy doesn't give a shit, although

I've heard that he thinks Hillary is the one best prepared to take over for him. David Brooks or somebody said that.

[joeybee12]

6. I think your estimation is way off...as far as I'm concerned BO is

the weakest of those left, and even he will beat any of the repukes. it will be a Dem year...the economy will be so bad it'll probably be a landslide.

2010 is what we have to worry about when we're still trying to clean up Bush's mess. The stupid, leaderless Dems in congress will still be herding cats, and the Repukes will smell blood, allowing them to rally.

[elixir]

9. Well put Joeybee12. The 2012 term is going to be determined by how poorly/well the 2008 pres does.

[joeybee12]

16. My bad...I meant 2010...the mid-term elections!

That's what happened in 1994...people had no patience with the economy not responding quick enough. And remember, the dems controlled Congress in 1993 and 1994 when they APPROVED a special prosecutor for Whitewater. They have no spine.

[Kucinich4America]

8. Our only hope now is to insure that Hillary is NOT the nominee.

Because she would lose the general. In Mondale proportions. And that's NOT counting electro-fraud.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. I agree 100%. But it just seems so unlikely now. She effectively

seems to have burst the Obama bubble. Sadly, he's fallen in the trap. I saw where's she's climbed to within 8 in SC. And that's not enough for anyone to doubt the results. (Obama was ahead by 8-12 in NH).

[CoffeeCat]

10. Did you hear the Republicans cackle during the debate...

..about running against Hillary and Bill?

They can barely contain their glee.

Romney said that he can barely imagine Bill Clinton running around
the White House with nothing to do, and what that would mean. I think
we all know that they will drudge up Monica, and Bill's cigar-wielding
ways. Linda Tripp, Paula Jones and the rest of the bimbos will be on
every imaginable media outlet.

Whitewater...Travelgate...Hillary's inability to release the WH records---what
a treasure trove for the Republicans.

Hillary is completely incapacitated by her war votes too. She voted for the Iraq
war, and now she's against it. However, she's come out now and said that she
thought the "Iraq war Resolution" was really a vote to ensure that the inspectors
do their jobs. OMFG....

I feel like I'm a passenger on the Titanic, screaming "Iceberg! Iceberg" as so
many see the same thing, but insist that there will be no damage when the impact occurs.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Yep. Omen of what's to come, for sure ! But you know, I have

never, ever understood why the Dems who voted for the IWR didn't immediately, consistently, in unison repear, "We voted for him to let the inspectors contintue and he didn't".

Personally, that is how I knew the son of a bitch was lying. The inspectors were finding nothing. A prudent person would have slowed down. Instead, Bush sped up to drumbeat for war. How does Saddam prove a negative (that you don't have something)? You can't. Bush counted on that.

Yep, I've been screaming Iceberg too. Trouble is - it's not us here, every single poll done here at DU had miniscule support for HRC - it is the general masses.

[CoffeeCat]

31. Did you ever read the letter that PNAC wrote to Bill...

...Clinton?

The PNACers/neocons--wrote Bill Clinton and asked him for war with Iraq in 1998. He
said no.

Hillary knew--better than anyone--that the same neocons who were asking for war with Iraq
in 2001--had asked her husband for it almost a decade earlier.

Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bolton Perle and others signed the original 1998 letter to Bill. Then,
they gain power, with Bush at the helm and go after it again.

Hillary said nothing of this either. She voted for it---knowing these neocon sociopaths had been
shopping around the Iraq war for years. As a NY Senator on the Armed Services Committee,
Hillary could have said, "It appears that the neocons are again trying to cajole America into helping
them gain a foothold in the Middle East. Hillary could have stopped this war...or at least
get a slowdown to happen. If only she had told the truth about her husband's experiences with
the neocons.

Here's a copy of that letter, in case you haven't seen it:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. Interesting ! Last night, in the repuke debate, Ron Paul said that

the war was conceptualized in 1998 - guess this is what he was referring too.
I know he's half crazy, but the other half sure does have a handle on
what's really been going on in Bush World!

Who know's, maybe she supported the IWR as a quid pro quo for the 08 presidency?

[EFerrari]

52. Me, too. Exactly that way. n/t

[BobRossi]

13. Hillarious Nadar.

The Dem's downfall.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. Hey, you're right. He said he will announce within a month,

depending on what happens. And you just have to
know he's more likely to jump in if HRC's gets it.

[agdlp]

22. She won 60 % of the votes when reelected senator in a red state

how about that ?

[TwilightGardener]

23. NY is a red state?

[Kucinich4America]

26. Since when is New York a red state?

:wtf:

[bluedog]

24. mitt is the only 1 I could stand to look

at for 4 years

[TwilightGardener]

28. LOL! Just keep the TV sound off for four years.

[mondo joe]

27. Your estimation is far from expert, or infallible.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. Probably as good as Zogby in NH !

[ronnykmarshall]

41. Threads like this are so helpful.

So long, farewell ......... see ya, would hate to be ya!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. If it just makes one person see what a huge mistake it would be

to have her take the nomination - it's worth it.

[mondo joe]

48. If your opinion carried any weight , it might. But you're not the arbiter of what

will happen - you're just one partisan.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

50. I know that. But it doesn't exclude me from persuading as many

people as I can (got two friends in CT today).