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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:15 PM
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Obama aides picked the wrong fight if they thought they could rough up Clinton without blowback (ABC
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4182641&page=1

ABC's Sam Donaldson writes that Obama aides picked the wrong fight if they thought they could rough up Clinton without blowback. "What did Sen. Obama and his associates think was going to happen when they seized on Sen. Clinton's remark that it took a president -- Lyndon Johnson -- to bring Martin Luther King Jr.'s 'dream' to fruition and let it be known they thought that was discrediting Dr. King?" Donaldson writes.

"But what Obama's camp should understand is that they are up against the most accomplished and potent political machine of the present election cycle: The Clintons have been doing this for a long, long time. They know what works," Donaldson continues.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:19 PM
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1. I love how "Obama aides" set the tone for what all African Americans think, according to the MSM.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 12:20 PM by Kristi1696
You know, African Americans would NEVER have raised an eyebrow to those statements until told to do so by the Obama campaign.

African Americans don't follow politics, they just get their marching orders from the Obama camp and black radio.


Fuck you, Sam Donaldson.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:22 PM
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3. Right,--as it was OBAMA himself who, if he is the leader he claims to be, should have
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 12:23 PM by rodeodance
immediately come out to say--Sen. Clinton's statements were NOT racial-instead of waiting several days to do so. The Silence from him is telling.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:27 PM
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6. Her comments were planted to get him talking about race.
Why should he have taken the bait?

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:40 PM
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7. I understand Your frustration--but that was really JUmping the shark.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:43 PM
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9. Obama showed his true colors when he allowed the Clintons to get swiftboated
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:21 PM
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2. and then run out some staffer and say that wjc is just like lee
atwater. Oh hell yes say that bill clinton is a racist and that sure will get you many many votes....hell no! what it does it makes obama look as though he has nbo control of his own campaign that folks can say whatever, but a funny thing happens when you accuse someone of being a racist. The people especially the black community will say, wait a minute, this is so wrong for them the obama campaign to say bill clinton is a racist. Then the blow back starts and it does more harm to obama then the clintons..
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:26 PM
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5. They didn't call him a racist, that is such a lie
Before any of you all even picked up on anything this was discussed on black radio and the blogs. Days went by before the media even said a peep about any of this. You are such an expert on black people. Where did you gain this expertise?

This won't effect the Clintons at all because they will probably win, that's all that matters.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:41 PM
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8. Do you live on planet Earth?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:52 PM
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11. Do you??
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:26 PM
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4. Donaldson still has a brain
and nails the story.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:20 AM
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18. Jim4Wes, we don't agree on much, but we do here. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I think
the Obama campaign tried to be too slick by half in yes, playing the race card (a term I really hate, but it does seem appropriate here. They whispered racism about the MLK statement, twisted the "fairy tale" remark and cried racism. Part of the Reagan comments were aimed at denigrating Bill.

And Bill Clinton got pissed. Of course, the media then had their favorite whipping boy back, and off you go!

Sorry, Obama. You're not running against Allen Keys anymore.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:49 PM
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10. He's right.....
and Hillary was right. It took a politician to get the legislation through. That takes NOTHING away from everything that Martin Luther King, Jr. did.
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fletcherwalker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:15 PM
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12. I just don't understand how anyone could believe that Obama
and his supporters would be able to handle the Republican media machine when they can't deal with a little "in party" squabble. The real battle is in November and it takes political chops. So does getting anything done in Washington.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:01 PM
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13. deal with?
well he's winning South Carolina. He won Iowa. He's doing ok against the so-called "inevitable" Hillary nomination.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:28 PM
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14. I for one am tired of this type of tactic......just as I was when the
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 02:33 PM by snappyturtle
repukes debased Kerry. I don't admire it. It, the slimy spinning, is not a political art in my book. It's time for civility. It looks like an act of desperation not as a virtue.

edit:word use
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PervezClinton Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:37 AM
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15. Will we get to see Billy's game face now? It's like watching Sly try to do another Rambo.
Has anyone screeched PATHETIC this campaign season?
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:09 AM
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16. correct; even IF the 'racist' statements were made deliberately, obama should have just
ignored them. he walked right into their trap by playing them up for weeks, saying 'hey everybody, look how racist the clintons are.' major rookie mistake.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:03 AM
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17. Well, at least Sammy makes it clear what started all this nasty business
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:31 AM
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19. Everyone with a brain knew the Clintons were going to play dirty pool
They are both compulsive liars hellbent for power and are a ball-and-chain on the Democratic Party.

Those that support other candidates knew that they would be nasty, deceitful, bloviated, arrogant champions of faux nostalgia. Clinton Fatigue Part Two is not where many want to go within the Democratic Party. The only people who want Hillary as the nominee are mostly the less educated amongst us and the Republican Party.

It's a battle to free us from dynasty, arrogance, grandstanding and even the possible rerun of seeing Bill cheating on Hillary again in full view for all the World to laugh at us again.

Turn the page.

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