Picture in your mind's eye John McCain vs Barack Obama in the general election

[mtnsnake]

On one side you've got a man, albeit a prune-faced mean-spirited man, with a vast long history of foreign policy experience plus all his other decades of experience at a time when this country is still at war, unfortunately.

On the other side we've got a man who's popular for his visions of hope but doesn't have a single iota of foreign experience.

All McCain has to do is say "Bang!" and the election is his.

[Alexander]

1. "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran...."

Yep, that McCain is unstoppable.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Proud2BAmurkin]

2. Scary isn't it? Rezko + drugs = Obama would be finished a week after the nomination.

nt

[zanne]

9. The Repukes have been creating ammunition against Hillary for...

Eight years. Can you imagine what their Rove-like tactics will do to her? She's MUCH too easy to ridicule! (And we all know how Republican men feel about a woman in the White House.) She'd draw Republicans to the polls like flies. Obama would be MUCH harder to make fun of.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

31. They've blown their wad on Hillary and she's still standing pretty strong

[zanne]

32. They're far from "blowing their wad". You know better. nt

[cali]

13. Scary is Hsu and dozens of others such as Paul not to mention

the endless bimbo rumors and we all know they're coming and may not just be rumors. Hilly's already cooked.

[zanne]

3. You forget that McCain's opinions are very unpopular to most people.

That's what counts.

[THUNDER HANDS]

4. your mind's eye has got gunk in it

get a tissue.

[sniffa]

5. That's a good vision.

Finally get the WH back if that's the matchup.

[GodlessBiker]

6. McCain has been in Washington how many years? And things are still like this?

It's not good when someone has been in Washington for a long time and then claims that is seeking to change Washington.

[Mz Pip]

7. 100 more years in Iraq

is okay with McCain. Yeah, that'll play well.

Just play that clip over and over and over. People will come out in droves to vote for more of the same, :sarcasm:

Mz Pip
:dem:

[HughMoran]

8. A grumpy old crotchety curmudgeon versus a young handsome optimistic person

I'll take the latter, thank you very much.

[babylonsister]

10. Very pro- vs. anti-war; that will be enough for many. And I venture to

say and think Obama could talk circles around him. For all his years in the Senate, McCain's not particularly inspiring when he opens his yapper..

[mtnsnake]

11. In a perfect world, yes, but in this country? I think we all know better.

[babylonsister]

17. Don't be too sure; more than half of Americans are anti-war at this

point. I just wonder what will happen to the Ron Paul supporters, who like him for his anti-war stance. How could they vote for McCain, who's the complete opposite? Will anti-war or party win out for them? I don't know.

[TwilightGardener]

12. What "foreign experience" does McCain have, besides Vietnam? He's not on

the FRC. His foreign policy views aren't very well-developed, actually. In 2000, foreign policy was an afterthought for him, and it isn't much better now. Obama will do fine.

[mtnsnake]

18. Huh? Are you joking? All he has to do is talk about all his many trips to Iraq

to convince the Independents and fence-sitters that he knows what's going on and Obama doesn't. That and everything else he brags about, foreign policy wise.

Hey, I wish we weren't at war. Then Obama might have a chance, but we are at war and that's a fact. The repukes will be waving the flag at every campaign stop and every debate, because donchya know...the surge is working. John McCain says so.

[TwilightGardener]

20. Going to Iraq is not that meaningful. McCain really does not shine

on foreign policy--he sticks with the neocon plan. I actually think Obama's advocacy of diplomacy will sell better. And Hillary and Obama have nearly identical stands on the war, so if you assume the Dems' war position is going to hurt us, then it doesn't matter which one is the nominee--and Hillary has never commanded an army or served, so she doesn't have much more experience here either. I think Obama will be fine.

[cobalt1999]

14. I'll repeat the same thing I say on all these "electability" threads.

If all things were equal, then running a black man or a woman or an less experienced candidate would be risky, BUT ALL THINGS ARE NOT EQUAL.

By November what's left of the economy will be in recession, millions of jobs will be gone, outsourcing will continue, the war in Iraq will still be going on, soldier will still be dying, the deficit will be larger, and republican fatigue will be higher.

Slam dunk win. Stop stressing yourself out.

[Diamonique]

15. Please explain exactly what foreign policy experience does McCain have.

Yeah he's been in the Senate a long time, but that doesn't necessarily equate to foreign policy experience.

So can someone spell out his foreign policy credentials for me?

[formernaderite]

16. McCain is not going to win the nomination

the repukes...lol are far to stupid. Remember the upcoming primaries are not open...it's only the right wing crazies who will be voting.

[Blue State Bandit]

19. All Obama would have to do is ask one question....

What is better for America's long term prosperity and security?

If you think that the world should fear us, vote for John.

but if you want the world to respect us, we must resist the politics, and the foreign policy of fear.

For generations the world has refereed to the American President as "The Leader of the Free World".

It's time we elected someone who acted like it.

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[jody]

22. McCain will beat Obama easily. n/t

[stray cat]

23. and you don't think he could beat Hillary as well?

[mtnsnake]

26. No, because Hillary matches him in foreign experience & can handle him domesticallyas well

although it won't be easy for anyone if McCain is their nominee.

[asdjrocky]

24. Which is one of the big reasons I support John Edwards.

[Skwmom]

25. Obama is the only candidate who can hammer McCain on the war.

Obama is a man with sound judgment and reasoning who just won't jump on the war bandwagon (invading the wrong country).

In the general election, the country will not accept Hillary as Commander-in-Chief.

Look what all of Clinton's "foreign policy" experience did for her. She voted for a stupid war that will cost this country TRILLIONS in the long run and will have killed and injured hundreds of thousands. Which begs the question? Was she just stupid or just willing to do anything to become President?

[Jed Dilligan]

27. I picture millions of young and black Americans who don't usually vote

giving the presidency to Barack, as they have the power to give the presidency in every election, but seldom are inspired to do.

[mtnsnake]

28. Millions of young black Americans don't usually vote?

I don't think they'd appreciate hearing that. Millions of young black voters vote for the Democratic candidate every 4 years because Democrats DO give them hope, not just Obama.

[Jed Dilligan]

30. Millions of young Americans AND

millions of black Americans. Two separate but somewhat overlapping groups.

I was one of those non-voters until 2000. Both parties represented to me the status quo of rich prisons and poor schools.

[surfermaw]

29. 75% of the states will go McCain

[elixir]

33. I'm with you, Obama doesn't have the intestinal fortitude or brevity of language to deal w/ McCain