Obama should buy airtime in Florida now that Hillary is running a stealth campaign in FL

[Perky]

His message should be very simple

"Florida had every chance possible to conform to DNC rules. Voter disenfranchisement is the faultof the state party......I call on all candidates to fight for the restoration of Florida's voting rights once the leadership of the FDP resigns. I asm Barak Obama and I approve this message on behalf of the voters of the state of Florids and I encourage all voters to get out on Tuesday and vote for the candidate of your choice."


Hillary is running a stealth campaing by a direct appeal to Florida voters.

Yes I changed the header from She brok the rules. I changed the content befor I poster and forgot to change the header to reflectthe nes wontent......I made a mistake. I do believe she is now effectively advertsieing in FLorida with the Press Release. She violated the rules.

[Lucinda]

1. He's been running ads for days.

[rodeodance]

seems the IP has not been paying attention.

[truebrit71]

6. Part of a National TV ad buy.

Nice try.

[jackson_dem]

31. Nice backdoor way by Obama to campaign in Florida

[Perky]

9. He has not run a single ad on a Florida TV or Radio station

That is a fact.

[rinsd]

25. He has TV ads showing in FL, that is a fact.

For his campaign to claim he is not campaigning there is a lie.

[truebrit71]

26. NATIONAL tv ads...NATIONAL ones...are you THAT dense?

Can you STILL not figure out the difference?

[rinsd]

32. Are the ads shown in Florida?

National vs local does not matter.

Permission from the head of the SC Dem party and lying about permission from the DNC does not matter.

He has campaign ads running on TV in Florida.

So you gonna tell me what rule Hillary has broken yet? Have you had enough time to make up some new bullshit?

[Lucinda]

46. Edwards and Hillary seem smart enough to run ads and not break their promise

[Perky]

42. That can not be avoided according to the networks.

We can go around and around on this and it is not going to change a damn thing.


He has every right to advertise on national cable networks. There is nothing in these ads that are geared towards Florida. If it did I would agree with you.

[rodeodance]

27. The ads are national cnn ads that DROP into Fl cable areas

[rodeodance]

2. What rule has Hillary broken?

[truebrit71]

3. The DNC ruling.

.

[rodeodance]

10. You are being very vague (like I find Obama to be)

edit for sp.

[robbedvoter]

17. Against what? Speaking up for the voters? Can I see that rule?

[Perky]

Did I say she broke any rule?

ooops forgot to chage the header....once I changed the content before I posted the OP. My bad

[LostinVA]

14. Yes -- your header says it

[TwilightZone]

15. Did you bother to read your own post?

Obama should buy airtime in Florida now that Hillary has broken the rules

This place just keeps getting funnier.

[rodeodance]

19. has ha--perky is not so perky.

[TwilightZone]

Just when I thought I'd seen it all...

Somebody proves me wrong.

"Where in 'she broke the rules' did I say she broke the rules?"

:crazy:

[rodeodance]

44. my eys are rolling at the il-logical-ness.

[rinsd]

28. Its been replaced by an oxymoron

Hillary is running a stealth campaign by a direct appeal to Florida voters

You can't make this shit up.

:rofl:

[TwilightZone]

36. Good point. I missed that little gem.

It must be really stealthy, considering that there are about a thousand posts about it on DU.

[rinsd]

37. That should be Hillary's rallying cry!

We're a stealth campaign built on appealing directly to the voter!

[rodeodance]

16. from the IP "now that Hillary has broken the rules"

[leftynyc]

24. Are you stoned?

Look at your header.

[leftynyc]

20. What rule has she broken

I've seen a request that the delegates count. Is there something else?

[pampango]

39. Are you seriously suggesting the Hillary and all the other candidates

haven't previously agreed that Florida's delegates would not be seated at the convention?

Has she made her position on this clear prior to today?

[TwilightZone]

4. What rule was broken?

Please provide documentation supporting your claim.

[jefferson_dem]

5. Nah. Hillary routinely plays dirty, breaks rules, tells lies. That's her character.

Let's not stoop to that low level, eh.

[rinsd]

8. What rules was broken?

Here's Obama lying

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4199233

[rinsd]

7. He is already running ads touting his candidacy. And Hillary has not broken any rules.

Here's Obama lying that he had DNC permission to run the ads

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4199233

[truebrit71]

12. Bullshit. Again.

Big surprise.

[Clintonista2]

18. That was substantive. Just like everything you have to say.

Not.

[Name removed]

23. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[rinsd]

22. Then refute it.

I asked you 3 times what rule Hillary has broken in another thread.

You offered made up bs that I thoroughyl debunked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4198158&mesg_id=4198770

[truebrit71]

29. The ruling that there was to be no campaigning in the offending states.

THAT ruling.

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

33. so--tell me how she is campaigning in FL.

[rinsd]

35. So how has Hillary campaigned in the offending states?

[TwilightZone]

38. Kucinich campaigned in Michigan.

No one seemed to have any problem with that.

Besides, when did Hillary start campaigning in Florida? I must have missed that.

[MADem]

11. Uh, he already DID. Awhile ago. What, have you been asleep? NT

[robbedvoter]

13. He's already advertising. But this ad would get Hillary 90% of the vote

This is what Floridians wore at their convention:

[truebrit71]

21. Then it's the Floridians that are fucked in the head...

..afterall they allowed their party to get bamboozled into this early primary KNOWING that they would lose the delegates.

No vote no money. Really? Keep it. You guys can't get the votes right down there anyway.

Screw Howard Dean. Really? How about screw the ineffective Florida Democratic leadership that allowed this to happen in the first place.

So sad, all pissed off and no-one to be mad at...

:eyes:

[robbedvoter]

34. "allowed their party?" was there a vote on that? Do you control your state party decisions?

It's like saying "we allowed Bush to start a war". I didn't. Nobody asked me.

[TwilightZone]

41. Blaming the voters is misguided, at best.

If you have a suggestion on how the voters were going to stop the Florida Dem Party from playing this little game, I'd like to hear it.

[robbedvoter]

30. Oh, look! he changed the header from "broke the rules" "I was not aware I wrote that"

How like your candidate! "Let the record show I meant to say "stealth campaign"
Too late - the comments immortalized your original "Now that Hillary broke the rules..."

[rodeodance]

40. see # 16---I captured his first silly claim--and yes he edited it

[Perky]

45. HAVE YOU READ WHAT I ADDED TO THE OP?????

[rodeodance]

48. yeah--snarky editing after you have been called out.

[LostinVA]

47. He still says she broke the rules at the bottom of his post

[rodeodance]

43. ABC: Obama Wrong About D.N.C. Claim

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Why does Obama lie and claim he has DNC permission to run national cable ads in Florida?
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4199233#4199233
4199233, Why does Obama lie and claim he has DNC permission to run national cable ads in Florida?
Posted by papau on Fri Jan-25-08 02:20 PM

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/obama-wrong-abo.html

Obama Wrong About D.N.C. Claim

January 22, 2008 12:00 PM

ABC News' Teddy Davis Reports: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., inaccurately claimed Tuesday that the Democratic National Committee has defended his decision to launch a national cable buy reaching a substantial number of homes in Florida, a state which violated D.N.C. rules by scheduling its contest before Feb. 5.

"The DNC has consistently said that we have not broken that pledge," said Obama.

Obama's claim is not true.

"The DNC has not weighed in on the pledge because it was a pledge with the state party chairs from the four early states, not the DNC," DNC spokeswoman Stacie Paxton told ABC News.

While the Obama campaign has not been defended by the D.N.C., his campaign was told by Carol Fowler, the chairwoman of the South Carolina Democratic Party, that she did not consider a national cable buy to be in violation of the pledge made to South Carolina.

The Democratic Party chairs in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada have not weighed in on Obama's national cable buy. Having already held their contests, the state party chairs in those three early states are deferring to the South Carolina Democratic Party.

Florida is holding its Democratic and Republican primaries on Feb. 29. In order to punish Florida for violating D.N.C. rules, no delegates will be awarded in the Democratic contest.

[tandem5]

49. Why would any of the candidate's abide by the DNC's rules?

Especially Obama who claims to have an outside perspective that is not beholden to establishment...

Doesn't this cut to the root of the problem? The country elected democrats in 2006 to send a message of action and change, but instead our representatives have stayed lockstep with the DNC party line. This is no different.

Clinton was right to not pull her name in Michigan - she shouldn't run a stealth campaign in Florida - she should run an open one!