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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:37 PM
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Hillary Clinton's campaign with Antoin Rezko! The NYTimes reports.
This is just too funny. Here we have photo of the Clintons hanging out with Antoin Rezko.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/the-rezko-clinton-connection/

Whoever is out there that still thinks of Hillary Clinton as a credible candidate is going
to have to acknowledge that she helped Senator Mosely-Braun get 10,000$ from Antoin Rezko.

As if Hillary's credibility weren't already in question.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:38 PM
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1. Hillary opens mouth and inserts foot. AGAIN!
:rofl:
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:39 PM
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3. Yeah man, this is just too damn funny!
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:38 PM
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44. He who laughs last laughs loudest
With the news coming out today about Obama and K,I think it will be Hillary laughing last, common sence would tell you an intelligent pair like Bill and Hillary would have never raised the subject, unless they knew who was going to be hurt with the information.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:39 PM
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2. it's a lovely story. You tell it so well. With such enthusiasm.
Buh bye need to flush the toilet.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:40 PM
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4. “There’s a big difference between standing somewhere taking a picture with someone you don’t know
and haven’t seen since, and having a relationship that the newspapers in Chicago have been exploring.”
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:42 PM
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6. It's not just the hypocricy, it's also the 10,000 that Rezko raised for Moesly-Braun w/Clinton aid.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:57 PM
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46. Those kinds of pictures are not reserved for people you don't know.
Besides, Patrick Fitzgerald has said Obama was not involved in any wrongdoing with Rezko.

Are you saying we shouldn't trust Patrick Fitzgerald?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:40 PM
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5. Did you even read the article?
No money was ever given to either Bill or Hillary Clinton by this man. It was a fundraiser for another democrat.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:43 PM
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9. Yeah, Clinton just raised "slumlord" money for another candidate.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:45 PM
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11. Nice distinction eh?
:rofl:

Man the Clintonists are in FULL spin mode today...

:rofl:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:42 PM
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7. Senator Carol Moseley-Braun, - so if Bill and Hillary support a Black Senator and have photo's taken


with guests then that equals a 17 year Obama relationship that included hiring into Obama's office on Rezko's request and joint real estate investment - with discounts.

Sounds a bit desperate
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:44 PM
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Papau, it doesn't equal: it reveals hypocricy. And it's just the tip of the Clinton lies iceberg.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 03:45 PM by awaysidetraveler
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:50 PM
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19. How, exactly....
is it hypocrisy? You're kidding, right?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:03 PM
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25. How does a photo line favor for Moseley-Braun reveal hypocrisy re Obama's land deal???
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:45 PM
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12. race card alert!!! It was necessary to use Moseley-Braun's race
in your response.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:06 PM
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27. Damn - I played the race card, didn't I - but do I get points for not noting that Carol is a female?
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 04:07 PM by papau
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:57 PM
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22. exactly my point. Some people on here are desperate.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:07 PM
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28. Yep, we're desperate alright: we'd like to vote for a president this year.
And it's not ever going to be Hillary--that time is over.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:17 PM
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34. Isn’t it strange that every time someone defends Hillary
They are seen as Hillary supporters? Hillary is too conservative for me, sorry. I like Dennis Kucinich. I also like to question all the candidates, I am an analytical and critical thinkers, I don’t care about the Obama hype. Thanks.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:42 PM
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8. For all the trashing
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 03:43 PM by Mz Pip
the Clinton campaign has done on Rezko and Obama they seem to quickly forget the recent past:

Norman Hsu. So much worse than Rezco. Clinton had to return a whole lot more than $40,000. And there are photos of the two of them together.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004827.php

Mz Pip
:dem:
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:47 PM
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13. Yep, Mz Pip--excellent extra posting. This is more of that iceberg I was talking about Papau.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:14 PM
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33. Mr Pip fails to note that Obama is just now agreeing to return the "bundled" money from other folks
that passed through Rezko's hands (the $800,000 Hsu money return was almost all the checks of other people - but per the rules that appear to be in force this go round - you return everything associated with the bad person - and Obama at first returned only a few thousand given his presidential campaign directly by Rezko - then a few more thousand given in the past to Obama's state campaigns - and now Obama might - just might - return all the bundled money represent the Rezko wife and employees and friends donations - but I have not yet heard that reported that the giving back of all as accomplished)
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:58 PM
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23. Clinton only mentioned Rezko because Obama mentioned Wal Mart
He dragged her down to that level. I don't believe she would have mentioned this if he didn't start it. Give me a break.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:58 PM
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24. Clinton only mentioned Rezko because Obama mentioned Wal Mart
He dragged her down to that level. I don't believe she would have mentioned this if he didn't start it. Give me a break.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:19 PM
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36. Because serving on the board of Walmart is the equivalent of
working for a slum lord?......

Hmm, Obama did 5 hours of legal work for a charity group partnered with Rezko back before Rezko was a slum lord, so there's barely any fact in Clinton's statement.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:20 PM
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37. Serving on the board of Wal- Mart cannot be an attack point.
Saying that you are on the board of Wal –Mart does not necessarily make you an evil person, I refuse to buy into that Obama’s distortion and cheap attack.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:21 PM
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39. But Senator Clinton is the one who considered it an attack , and she should know best, right?
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:23 PM
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41. Anyone who uses their brain know that comment is used as an attack.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:33 PM
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42. >from a few days ago..Thanks Papau!! :)
papau (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-13-08 11:46 PM http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=493628&mesg_id=493655
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5. businessman Stuart Levine?
Obama worked at corporate law firm Sidley Austin LLP - Rezko is accused of helping to get businessman Stuart Levine reappointed to the board of the state's Teachers' Retirement System and scheming with Levine to get kickbacks from companies seeking business with the state board.

Levine is cooperating with the government, and Niewoehner said there are recordings of Rezko discussing his activities.

who the hell is Stewart Larson?

Former Top State Official Indicted In Rezko Case Ex-Illinois Finance Authority Chief Allegedly Aided Rezko In $10M Fraud Scheme - AP
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_151190806.html


the Chicago Sun-Times writes that “As a state senator, Barack Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting his political patron Tony Rezko’s successful bid to get more than $14 million from taxpayers to build apartments for senior citizens. The deal included $855,000 in development fees for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama’s former boss, according to records from the project, which was four blocks outside Obama’s state Senate district.”http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/425305,CST-NWS-ob... (MY NOTE Obama has said Rezko paid the full price because Rezko was matching another offer made to the seller and Obama paid a discounted price because there was no such other offer at the full asking price for the property Obama purchased.)

Ordinarily when a campaign gets caught with letter evidence contradicting previous statements the smart move is to get the full story out and not mock people’s intelligence. Not so with this Obama campaign.

“The letters appear to contradict a statement last December from Obama, who told the Chicago Tribune that, in all the years he’s known Rezko, “I’ve never done any favors for him.”

bama’s former boss “Davis soon went into business with Rezko, creating a company called New Kenwood LLC to build the seven-story apartment building for senior citizens on a vacant stretch of land once occupied by a gas station at 48th and Cottage Grove. The city of Chicago owned the land — nearly two acres tainted by lead, benzene and other toxic chemicals. Davis is a member of the Chicago Plan Commission. He was originally appointed to the commission in 1991 by his friend, Mayor Daley. Davis, like Rezko, has been a prolific campaign fund-raiser for politicians including Daley and Obama.”

This is Chicago after all. Michelle Obama works for the Landmarks Commission, Obama’s boss is on the Planning Commission, Obama does legal work for Rezko real estate, Michelle works for a hospital, the Obama house was sold by a doctor, there are doctors investing in real estate with Rezko including in the Pizza parlors now in such deep legal troubles. We are sure this is all coincidence. We won’t even mention Todd Stroger and the corruption swirling around him and his dad and how Obama endorsed Todd and why Todd’s father had to leave public life. That’s for another day.

We do recall, as we have written before, http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=97 that while Obama was writing letters to benefit by millions of dollars his indicted slumlord friend Antoin “Tony” Rezko, Obama’s African-American constituents were freezing in their tenements. Obama was busy writing letters.

”Obama, who has worked as a lawyer and a legislator to improve living conditions for the poor, took campaign donations from Rezko even as Rezko’s low-income housing empire was collapsing, leaving many African-American families in buildings riddled with problems — including squalid living conditions, vacant apartments, lack of heat, squatters and drug dealers. The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found. “Their buildings were falling apart,” said a former city official. “They just didn’t pay attention to the condition of these buildings.” Eleven of Rezko’s buildings were in Obama’s state Senate district.“http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/425305,CST-NWS-ob... Read the whole story for yourself.


Rezko has significant ties to the Middle East, and his wife and daughter met him in Damascus recently. He has transferred money around the world, Niewoehner said, including $400,000 to Beirut in 2004.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:44 PM
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10. Oh, pleeeez!!!
Get a life.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:47 PM
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14. This just makes you look bad.
I once had my photo taken with Jimmy Carter at a dem fundraiser. If I was indicted later, I don't think Carter would be affected at all. See, sorta silly.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:50 PM
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18. Here's one Norman Hsu to go with your Rezko slumlord problem.
In case you wanted some extra photos of Clinton w/scumbags.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004827.php
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:51 PM
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20. So did you move 10,000$ for a senator during that photo-op with Carter?
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:48 PM
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15. I hate hypocrites
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:48 PM
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16. Actually, the blog says:
"A photograph of Antoin Rezko, an indicted Chicago businessman, standing between Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton, which surfaced on NBC’s “Today” show on Friday, might have been taken at a 1997 fund-raiser in Chicago for former United States Senator Carol Moseley-Braun, political insiders say.Mr. Rezko, who was once a major fund-raiser for Senator Barack Obama, Mrs. Clinton’s top rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, has never donated money to either President Clinton or Mrs. Clinton, records show."

"According to the 1997 story in the Chicago Tribune, both Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton attended the fund-raiser for Senator Moseley-Braun on June 25, 1997. And the next day, records show, one of Mr. Rezko’s companies donated $10,000 to a state Democratic party organization that was supporting Ms. Moseley-Braun, records show.

There was no immediate way to know for sure if that is when the picture was taken. But it is the best bet right now among political insiders familiar with Mr. Rezko. Mrs. Clinton attended another fundraiser for Ms. Moseley-Braun in October 1998, but President Clinton was not there."


So, Rezko never donated any money to either Clinton and the picture is apparently from a fund-raiser for another candidate both parties happened to attend. Why would it be unusual that the Clintons would attend a fund-raiser for a sitting U.S Senator/Democratic candidate? Why would it be unusual that an attendee would want his picture taken with the President and the First Lady? Where is this "connection"? Don't you think your claim is slightly hyperbolic if not, in fact, highly misleading? How did Hillary "help Moseley-Braun get $10,000 from Rezko"? Do you have any proof at all that Hillary solicited Rezko on Moseley-Braun's behalf?


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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:04 PM
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26. I'd be happy to answer all of these questions, if you'll first answer me these questions.
Where is the proof that Antoin Rezko even is a slumlord? He is indicted by General Electric, and not proven guilty yet.
However, General Electric has billions of oil money to lose if Obama becomes president, and the entire proceeding looks like a kangaroo court already.

Where is the proof that Obama did anything illegal or immoral in his actions with Antoin Rezko?

What he's done so far is to do five hours of legal work for a church organization that associated with Rezko.
And buy a house, while Rezko took the corner lot. None of that is illegal.

Allegations of Rezko's fraud occured after Obama did the house and land deal, and Obama donated all money Rezko donated to charities after he found out Rezko was under indictment.

So why are these unfounded allegations okay for the Clintons?

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004827.php

By the way, here's a link to Clinton's Hsu scandal.
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madison Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:11 PM
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32. what the Tony Rezko case is all about
If you want to actually know what the Tony Rezko case is all about, here are some links:

"Sun-Times Exclusive: Obama surfaces in Rezko's federal corruption case"
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/749138,obama20web.article
RELATED STORIES

Obama donates more money from contributors linked to Rezko -
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/749966,oside_012008.article

Q&A: With Obama Presidential Campaign -
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/749138,obama20web.article#qa

Special Section: Barack Obama -
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/index.html


FROM THE SUN-TIMES ARCHIVE

"Barack Obama and his slumlord patron" -
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article

"Why didn't City Hall stop him?" –
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/355099,cst-nws-rez24a.article

"Obama's letters for Rezko" –
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article

"Rezko cash triple what Obama says" -
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article

"Obama: I didn't know about Rezko problems" -
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/355098,CST-NWS-obama24.article

"Obama ducks the questions" –
http://www.suntimes.com/news/marin/356207,CST-EDT-carol25.article

"City should have cut off Rezko: aldermen" -
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/358965,CST-NWS-rezko26.article

- - - -

BTW, the prosecutor in the Tony Rezko corruption case is none other than U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald (who tried the Scooter Libby case -- and won).
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:19 PM
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35. Don't bother. they can't read. They happened to be some where he was invited and now
they are saying it is EXACTLY the same as what is going on with Obama.

Makes me laugh.

I hope the Clintons keep quiet and let the idiots who can't read spin themselves into a wad and out to sea.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:49 PM
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17. Presidents and first ladies pose for hundreds of pictures
with people that they don't know personally. Obama has a 17 year relationship with Rezko and he better start talking soon because it has been all over the Chicago papers and like the Chicago Sun said: the story is not going to go away.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:22 PM
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40. That photo means he was a big contributor
You don't get access to both the First Lady and President for that kind of photo. They aren't friggin' Santa Claus at Sears.

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ColdComfort Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:54 PM
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21. Tired
I am so tired of seeing people of low character in high places. Maybe these latest Clintonian complications will inspire Americans to want something better for themselves than this.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:08 PM
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30. Right!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:07 PM
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29. Is this a surprise?
I mean, you don't get your picture taken with the Clintons unless you've given money to someone associated with them. That's just typical Washington politics.

But really, they should stop bringing up trustworthiness and ethics. They would have to know that they're going to lose in the end.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:09 PM
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:21 PM
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38. I take bets that Rezko got to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom during Clintontime
Step in it, Hillary. I swear it's not quicksand.

:rofl:


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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:35 PM
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43. Ahhh the sweet smell of Obamaton desperation...
Casting about for anything they can to get their sainted hero off the Rezko hook...

And this is what they come up with...

Keep coming...it only benefits Hillary to have Rezko in the news...

Obama must be tearing his hair everytime someone from Obamation tries one of these lame tie ins...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:55 PM
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45. So sad.
Poor Obamabots.
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