2004: Hillary Clinton goes all-in for Kerry and Edwards despite hurting own political interests

[Proud2BAmurkin]

I thought Kerry was a backstabbing asshole for endorsing someone other than Edwards but this proves it. She even gave Kerry her extensive lists and fund raisers

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/10/politics/campaign/10hillary.html?ex=1247198400&en=6f3cd1d747ce2ce2&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

"I cannot even imagine four more years of this," Mrs. Clinton continued. "But we have an alternative. We can elect John Kerry and John Edwards and put our country back on the right track."

Although people close to the Clintons acknowledge that Mr. Edwards is positioned to be a formidable rival should Mrs. Clinton decide to run for the presidency in 2008, they contend that her main objective now is doing all she can to help defeat Republicans, from President Bush on down.

"Does this elevate Edwards? Yes," said one person who is close to the Clintons. "But she can't do anything about that. So she'll keep doing what she has been doing all along: knocking herself out for this ticket and the party."

In an interview this week, Mrs. Clinton would not entertain thoughts about what impact the Kerry-Edwards ticket would have on her own political career. "I have two overwhelming priorities: to elect Kerry-Edwards and to elect a Democratic Senate," Mrs. Clinton said.

In addition to making campaign appearances for Mr. Kerry, Mrs. Clinton has given his campaign staff access to two of her greatest political assets: a team of well-connected fund-raisers and extensive and time-proven donor lists, according to her closest advisors.

[Fredda Weinberg]

1. I remember. That's why "she's my girl!" n/t

[Skwmom]

17. Didn't Carville alert the Whitehouse that Kerry was going to

protest the Ohio vote?

[Fredda Weinberg]

20. And even if true, what is the relevance? n/t

[wisteria]

26. Yes, according to Bob Woodward. Clinton people inside the

Kerry campaign alerted Carville about Senator Kerry possibly contesting the votes and from their Carville called his lovely whinny wife who then alerted Rove. The fix was in at that point.

[BenDavid]

32. OH PLEASE....KERRY SENT OUT A MAILER SAYING HE

NEEDED MONEY TO CONTEST THE ELECTION IN OHIO.....MANY FOLKS (NOT I) SENT HIM MONEY FOR THIS PURPOSE.....MANY FOLKS BELIEVED HIM WHEN IN THE CAMPAIGN HE WOULD FIGHT FOR AVERY VOTE AND MAKE SURE EVERY VOTE WAS COUNTED....SO WHAT HAPPENED. kERRY THE SILLY SOMBITCH CONCEDED ON WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 3, 2004 TO BUSH......KERRY SHOULD GIVE BACK WHATEVER MONEY TO THOSE PEOPLE.....

[mrreowwr_kittty]

33. Why don't you call Carville again and tell us what he says about Woodward's allegation? nt

[LittleClarkie]

2. So he should return political favors instead of going with the man he thinks best?

Even after Edwards wouldn't return his calls and Hillary jumped on the "botched joke" bandwagon?

That sucks.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

3. if he thought Obama was best why didn't he pick him for VP

[LittleClarkie]

7. What the heck are you talking about.

I'm talking about now, and who's best for PRESIDENT, not four years ago and who's best for VICE PRESIDENT. Two different things. Apples... oranges...

[Proud2BAmurkin]

12. the vice president is supposed to be the one who can step into the shoes of president

[LittleClarkie]

15. Welcome to today.

Four years ago, Obama was someone who'd given a speech and hadn't even been elected to office yet.

It was not the time.

[wisteria]

28. He didn't know Mr. Obama that well back in 2004. He was a newcomer to the Senate.

Senator Kerry did however, recognize his talents and knew that he was a gifted and up and coming leader.

[Fredda Weinberg]

4. That's how families work. Why shouldn't we return favors? n/t

[LittleClarkie]

6. Isn't Obama part of the family as well?

Maybe Kerry just thinks Obama is the man for the job. Looking at his reasons, they made sense to me considering what I know about Kerry.

[Fredda Weinberg]

19. I question Kerry's judgment now, as I did 4 years ago, though

I contributed to campaign. I did so after listening to his wife describe his valor in Vietnam, but it was nowhere to be witnessed when the swift boaters attacked. So, who should I believe now? A confirmed loser, or the candidate who has won my state despite everything the same mob threw at her?

If you think about it, there's really no reasonable alternative.

[wisteria]

30. At this time in 2004, Kerry had already gotten the nomination.

Clinton hasn't made it to the general election yet.And, the battle for the White House was fierce in 2004. Have you every wondered why Clinton passed on running in 2004?
And, some of the reasons Kerry could not fight back as forcefully as he wanted was do to the timing of our convention, his acceptance of the nomination and general election money. Go talk to Terry McAulliffe about the timing of our convention in 2004, he did all of that arranging.

[ProSense]

5. Hillary Clinton Joins In

Hillary Clinton Joins In

Bill lies, it's a fact!

[Clintonite]

8. This is not news! Kerry is always angling for political reasons!

He is a definate backstabber! He should have definatly endorsed Edwards. I mean he was the man HE chose to be his fucking V.P.!!! What the fuck.

[LittleClarkie]

10. Maybe he would have if he couldn't gotten the man to take his fucking phone calls.

Kind of hard to offer an endorsement to someone who isn't talking to you, don't you think?

[wisteria]

31. He also said that he endorsed whom he felt was the best person to lead this country forward and to

narrow the divide in this country. He has never said a bad word about Edwards. These are different times and they call for a different kind of leadership.

[flpoljunkie]

9. Gee, historian Douglas Brinkley says "Clintons really stuck the knife in his back a bunch of times"

From Douglas Brinkley...

Whom does the biographer think his subject will pick as a running mate? Not Hillary Rodham Clinton. Audio Link: http://www.depauw.edu/av/crain/brinkley-hillary.mp3

"There's really two different Democratic parties right now: there's the Clintons and Terry McAuliffe and the DNC and then there's the Kerry upstarts. John Kerry had one of the great advantages in life by being considered to get the nomination in December. He watched every Democrat in the country flee from him, and the Clintons really stick the knife in his back a bunch of times, so he's able to really see who was loyal to him and who wasn't. That's a very useful thing in life."

http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

[LittleClarkie]

13. She doesn't do anything directly anyway. She could appear to be "all in" for Kerry

and meanwhile send in her surrogates like Carville to subtly sabotage.

[THUNDER HANDS]

11. did she campaign in any red states for him?

I mean, could she?

[rodeodance]

14. Sen. Clinton will vote for Dem nominee when the times comes (even if not here)

[John Q. Citizen]

16. You mean Hill actually supported the Democratic Party Nominee after the convention? Wow,

She should get a medal....

I'm not sure that's ever been done before by any elected memeber of the Democratic Party.

Stop the presses!!!!!

[kerrygoddess]

23. Before the Convention

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Democratic_National_Convention

[dpbrown]

18. Isn't this distinguishable by the time of the endorsement and the inevitability of the nominee?

If Senator Clinton endorsed the obviously inevitable nominee in July of 2004 because of her commitment to elect a Democratic President, then wouldn't the corollary be Senator Kerry endorsing whoever the nominee appears to be in July of 2008 regardless of the apparent affect on his political future?

I don't see the nefariousness alluded to by this post.

[protect our future]

21. She and Bill did next to nothing for the 2004 Kerry campaign. n/t

[johnnydrama]

22. so

Al Gore should endorse McCain/Lieberman.

It seems only right, he was his VP choice.

[wisteria]

24. Both the Clinton's did no more than what looked good and made sure

they got plenty of PR while doing it. All the while planning on Hillary's run this time around. You see, they actually didn't want him to win and in the end it was Clinton people who turned out to be traitors to the Kerry camp. Oh, and lets not forget Pres. Clinton's book coming out right during the thick of Kerry's campaign. And, there was Mr. Clinton, traveling around promoting his book and making sure he had the full media's attention.
Yeah, the Clinton's really went out of their way for Kerry in 2004. LOL

[JI7]

25. and Kerry defended Bill on draft dodging attacks and the blow jobs

[JI7]

27. this is an example of what political whores the Clintons are

they think they are fucking owed something because they might have supported other Democrats ?

WHAT THE FUCK ? Obama supported Kerry also. many Democrats supported Kerry.

only selfish whores think they are owed something for supporting the presidential nominee of their party.

and JK defended Clinton when he was attacked for draft dodging. he held fundraisers for both Clintons.

[AJH032]

29. Excuse me?

Where anywhere does Clinton (Bill or Hillary) say they feel they are "owed" something from Kerry? Do you just imply it because of the OP?

Why can't we base our arguments on facts rather than conjecture?

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

34. She wasn't fooling anyone, she just shaved down her horns...

And tucked her pointy-tail down one of her pantsuit legs. But she was still the embodiment of all that is evil and wicked!!!!