John Kerry has jumped the shark

[dpbrown]

John Kerry: "Being an ex-President does not give you license to abuse the truth."

John, John, John...

:puke:

[LittleClarkie]

1. Gee, let me guess who you support

.

[dpbrown]

5. Dennis Kucinich - and this isn't about a particular candidate, it's about Kerry saying stupid things

Getting a Democratic President elected should be the key, not attacking a former President who presided over 8 years of peace and prosperity.

Kerry shows himself to be on the wrong side of history by making ugly statements like that attacking President Clinton.

[wisteria]

59. Sorry, but Clinton should be ashamed of himself. He is acting un-presidential

and dividing our party. Bill Clinton is the one giving the Republican's talking points for the general election. Remember, it isn't Bill who is running it is Hillary.

[rodeodance]

110. I hear the RW pundits say the same thing over and over. -Catchy isn't it.

[karynnj]

94. So - Clinton should be able to lie at will and all Democrats should ignore it?

The problem is that Bill Clinton is using the fact that he will be covered more than anyone to spread lies. You heard him say that he was always against the war and you heard him say it was "a fairy tale" that Obama was. We all know which was the fairy tale - and it wasn't Obama's.

Kerry should speak out as he did when the Clintons and their allies attempted to suppress the vote in NV and with this string of lies.

Clinton may win - but even if they end up in the WH for a total of 16 years - if they do it acting like they have they deserve the criticism.

I admired Kerry when he spoke the truth in 1971. I also admire that he stood against party leaders on BCCI. I admire that he has a sense of right and wrong and acts on it. It matters to me - this is not just a game where we want "our team" to win, we have to stand for something. "What does it profit to gain the world, if you lose your soul?"

[RoveRage]

126. Ugly statements????????? What about the truth, doesn't matter any longer???

[zulchzulu]

2. Get ready for more...

Kerry is going to take Slick to the mat.

[Clintonite]

6. Kerry is going to take "slick" to the mat?!?!?

What a joke. Kerry finally gets a spine. But nobody cares! I guess Kerry is honest abe huh?

[KittyWampus]

10. Well, he exposed Government and GOP corruption where Clinton looked the other way.

Yeah, Kerry is honest.

[wisteria]

60. Ah, but you are wrong. Many people care. m/t

[karynnj]

96. Kerry is extremely honest

a claim rarely if ever made about Bill Clinton

[Unbowed]

76. I'd pay to see that.

I'm getting very sick or slick.

[Unbowed]

77. That's no shark, that's Bill Clinton.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

3. Puking here too. Good thing he has negative clout.

[LittleClarkie]

7. You're hoping he does, anyway

.

[wisteria]

61. His clout is very postive actually. Over 3 millon e-mail subscribers

see the Senator differently then you do.

[dpbrown]

123. Not enough to get him elected, and not enough to get Obama elected

So he's pretty much jumped the shark.

[Unsane]

4. No, no he hasn't.

John Kerry is a GREAT man.

[Clintonite]

8. I like Kerry enough, but to call him great? I disagree.

[NJSecularist]

11. How is he not great?

He lost an election, big deal. He isn't the first Democrat to lose an election and he won't be the last. He's still one of the best senators this party has ever seen.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

19. Losing an election IS a big deal, he rolled over and played dead for the Swiftboaters

Don't you remember? He was on an extended ski trip at the time, and refused to get out there and deny the claims. That allowed the far-right to have 4 more years to wreak havoc on the nation.

[wisteria]

63. Come on, you don't even have your facts correct.

Extended Ski trip? LOL.
Oh, and by the way, he faced major odds in winning. Just ask Senator Clinton why she didn't run in 04. She calculated her chances and said why bother. Senator Kerry on the other hand took on the ch-allege because he recognized our country was in desperate need of change. No, he didn't win, (although there is speculation that he did) but he did garner more votes than Clinton did in his races and came closer than any other candidate in history to unseating a war time president. Senator Kerry is a great man.

[karynnj]

101. He took an extended ski trip in August?????

He was out campaigning. He did counter the lies and the media had more proof disputing the SBVT than they had on any Clinton charge. (

[Lucinda]

78. HE should have told JE he was endorsing Obama.

And I don't agree with what he's saying now. But I still like Kerry bunches.

[karynnj]

He couldn't - JRE wasn't taking his calls

[Unsane]

12. He's spilled blood for his country and has fought the good fight his entire life.

He is a GREAT American.

God bless John Kerry.

[dpbrown]

17. And then he jumped the shark

Hey, Fonzie was great too, right?

[GalleryGod]

33. Now you equate Henry Winkler with this...

"In case of a WAR...break glass and call US!"

[dpbrown]

46. No, with this...

[wisteria]

64. Actually, that is a very difficult thing to do. And, that is just silly if you think that

windsurfing cost him an election. I have seen much more alarming actions coming from our candidates this year other than the physical challenge of windsurfing.

[dpbrown]

122. He either jumped the shark or windsurfed over it, doesn't really matter

Descending down to attacking the last President to preside over peace and prosperity is an action not worthy of a Senator, and just another indication that Kerry's jumped the shark.

[karynnj]

103. Which he did ONCE for a few hours during the Republican Convention

It could have been a brilliant photo op (though that picture was not from it). He had media and Teresa with him in the boat.It was a gorgeous NE day, blue skies and water. It was a happy and a healthy picture - it may have been why the Republicans did not try to make under the surface health issue questions - as was done by someone in Iowa in the primaries. The opposition campaign is always silent during the convention.

The rest of the day was debate practice - which worked out pretty well.

[karynnj]

100. He would have a claim to greatness just from 1971

That he also exposed the Contra drug and gun running (from Mena, Arkansas) thus ending it and he exposed BCCI and gave the information he got to Morgenthau who used it to shut down the terrorist bank is a claim too.

He may never be President, but those 3 things alone without anything else would be a claim to greatness.

But given that you are "Clintonite", I'll give you another. In the NH debate, HRC spoke of how she already caused change - with S-CHIP, the children's health insurance plan. Well, S-CHIP started as a Kerry/Kennedy bill in 1996 that was modeled after a MA plan that had recently passed over Clinton pal, Weld's veto. To get sufficient support, Hatch joined and the bill was made not an entitlement and the states were given more control over designing how they would implement it. S-CHIP was Kennedy/Hatch with Kerry and Dodd as co-sponsors. ...... HRC? - after the Replican controlled Senate passed it, she convinced Bill Clinton, who was reluctant, to include it inthe budget.

So, if that is HRC's claim to greatness, I think Kerry topped him. (Not to mention, key Clinton achievement of re-establishing ties with Vietnam could not have been done without Kerry's work as chair of the POW/MIA committee. People including Kerrey, McCain and Bob Smith all said that Kerry took on a hopeless, thankless job there and succeeded - and that no one else would have been able to keep everyone on that committee together.)

[Buzz Clik]

9. A lot of us feel the same way.

We felt that way when he was President.

[IndianaJones]

13. Kerry is completing his transition into obscurity. nt.

[gmudem]

18. Why? Because he's not supporting Clinton?

Just more evidence of Clinton supporters willing to smear anybody who dare not support Queen Inevitable.

[GalleryGod]

35. You're never obscure when you earn one of these...

and THEN have the GUTS for this...


OF COURSE...there ALWAYS is...

[MBS]

54. thanks for all your great posts on this thread, Gallery God, WEL, and

BabylonSister! Heartening to know that there is still some sanity, intelligence and good sense on this site

[karynnj]

107. Wonderful comparision!

[wisteria]

65. You wish. Actually, Kerry is posed to be a leading voice in our party.

He is the reason I stick around. That and the hope that the Clinton's will no longer have much control over our party.

[karynnj]

105. Or to being a voice of truth and integrity within the party

He will still be an important Senator with considerable senority and gravitas.

I am shocked that you are upset that he called a lie a lie - and politely at that.

[ProSense]

14. I guess so has: Robert Reich, Senator Claire McCaskill, Governor Janet Napolitano, Senator Pat Leahy

Robert Reich, Senator Claire McCaskill, Governor Janet Napolitano, Senator Pat Leahy


We love Bill, he has high ratings! We don't care if he is secretive (against full public disclosure) and lies frequently.

[robbedvoter]

30. Yup. All invested in petty infights - the Kennedys vs the Clintons

It's being acted out - and it ain't pretty.

[wisteria]

66. No, this is about right and wrong. And, Clinton has been wrong in the way he has gone about

attacking Obama.

[karynnj]

108. No - Kerry is speaking as Kerry

It has nothing to do with Kennedy - who has not declared sides. Other than that Kennedy has not denied rumors he told BVill Clinton to behave himself.

Are you in favor of lying? I really prefer truth.

[THUNDER HANDS]

15. John Kerry IS THE FREAKIN SHARK

BAM!

:)

[robbedvoter]

34. The landshark of SNL maybe? "Federal Express?""Pizza delivery?"

[GalleryGod]

37. Incoming !

A term unfamiliar to lots of folks, round here...that's when your enemy launches ordinance that can KILL you,rather than just bruise your feelings and make you cry in a coffee shop.

[gmudem]

16. He's absolutely right

Kerry isn't the one doing the attacking here btw. He's just stating an obvious fact here.

[dpbrown]

20. Then again, maybe Kerry already windsurfed the shark

[GalleryGod]

41. Or had his PBR "come back around" under a Rocket attack,to rescue a crewman in the River.

Yes,that would be him !



See Sig Line below.

[jillan]

21. Put a sock in it John. Like it or not Bill Clinton was the only Dem President since the 80's - show

a little respect....

:mad:

[dpbrown]

24. The Legacy of George W Bush's Presidency

The Legacy of George W Bush's Presidency

[jillan]

25. Great link - thanx!

Bookmarked it.

[dpbrown]

47. My Pleasure!

Spread it around!

:thumbsup:

[ProSense]

26. Should Bill Clinton show a little respect for Obama and stop lying

“That’s beneath the dignity of a former president”


We love Bill, he has high ratings! We don't care if he is secretive (against full public disclosure) and lies frequently.

[Unbowed]

83. Bill Clinton should show a little respect for his wife, the American people and for himself.

And. Stop. Lying.

Like that will ever happen. Probably right after John McCain dons a peace sign.

Spots never change, do they?

[WildEyedLiberal]

29. What difference does that make?

Being a Dem president means you get to be a no-holds-barred attack dog for your spouse's presidential ambitions, ambitions which more likely than not got in the way of getting a certain someone elected in 04?

Someone needs to "put a sock in it" and it's not John Kerry. Bill Clinton is bringing this ALL on himself.

[Mass]

42. So, that gives Clinton the right to lie?

[wisteria]

69. I disagree. It is Pres. Clinton who needs to act like a former president and

put a sock in it. I happen to agree with Senator Kerry. Clinton is over the line. Where is his respect for Obama and the Demorat party? he looks and acts like a man fighting not so much for his wife's sake but to maintain his power and grip on the party. Former President Clinton is dividing the party and many are going to find it difficult to defend them later on.

[Bodhi BloodWave]

70. Respect is earned and when people ***** up then its only right to call them on it

Doesn't matter who or what they have done in my eyes, when they are wrong they are wrong and props to Kerry for stating it directly

[gmudem]

97. So what?

That doesn't mean he should be able to say whatever he wants even if it has nothing to do with the facts. What an absurd argument that is.

[karynnj]

109. Respect is earned - and Clinton's behavior lately has no earned respect

I think you know better.

John Kerry has the right to speak against dishonest campaign tactics.

[babylonsister]

22. No, he hasn't, and no one had better tell anyone here that honest

criticism isn't allowed. I respect Kerry for saying this.

[Inuca]

23. You mean

you think that being an ex-president DOES give you license to abuse the truth?

[dpbrown]

28. How about sour grapes that he'll never BE an ex-president

But what a lovely windsurfer he makes...



Maybe he didn't jump the shark, maybe he windsurfed over it.

Nice job, John.

[WildEyedLiberal]

31. You sure are enamored of that right wing meme

Thanks for showing your true colors. Maybe you can commiserate with Rush Limbaugh about it.

[robbedvoter]

36. Not so RW. he won it and let it escape from his grasp. valid reason to me.

P.S. The whole RW is busy touting Obama - Rush included)

[dpbrown]

I guess you missed me defending Kerry over here...

Isn't this distinguishable by the time of the endorsement and the inevitability of the nominee?

But then again, when you're Don Quixote skewering your own preconceived notions, it's probably pretty hard to see outside your blinders.

[wisteria]

71. Senator Kerry has moved on. It is about doing the right thing. Not allowing other

party members to get "swift boated". I know he would do the same thing for Senator Clinton if need be.

Oh, and I just love that picture of the Senator tackling such a skilled sport. You know not many can manage to do well at windsurfing. It takes a lot of skill and control.

[robbedvoter]

27. Ex- president? Like "democrat party" - freeperese, From the guy who didn't dare claim his win

Dude, where's my vote? (for those who missed the linguistic distiction - people who didn't want to diss Clinton use "Former President"

[dpbrown]

52. Indeed

"Former" President sounds so less Crazy TV Funhouse!

[GalleryGod]

32. Hold that puke, simile,friend!

[robbedvoter]

39. That was the good Kerry of yore...to bad it was supplanted by the wobbly little man who let my vote

be stolen without one sound in protest?

[GalleryGod]

44. Name, Rank,Outfit, and time spent in combat?

I like this stamp because..we only got to actually "land" and "touch ground" on one occasion.

[Alexander]

38. If Clinton doesn't like these comments, he shouldn't lie about Obama so much.

Really, it's that simple.

[robbedvoter]

40. And we're back to the kindergarden foodfight...

[Pab Sungenis]

43. John Kerry jumped the shark back in 2004.

We were listening to one of the debates (I can't remember which) on Air America in my car. When Kerry said that the biggest security threat facing America was nuclear proliferation, I turned to Bryan and said "he just lost the election."

"But isn't he right?"

"Yes, but that answer just lost him the election, even if it is right."

[GalleryGod]

45. You have a right to your opinion. I love Vineland, BTW.

[karynnj]

112. and Bush agreed with him - copying his answer

I have no idea who Bryan is - but what ever you think the answer was many intelligent people liked Kerry's.

[Pab Sungenis]

120. The problem is

intelligent people aren't enough of a voting block. You need some of the other 72%.

[Mass]

48. ...

[BenDavid]

49. Kerry the Quitter now has accused Hillary's campaign of the

worst possible evil: "Swiftboating" his choice for president, Barack Obama. Kerry, demonstrating a child-like inability to let go, on Tuesday dragged out the swiftboating analogy in an e-mail responding to what he called "disgusting lies" that "they" are floating that Obama is a secret Muslim and refuses to observe the Pledge of Alliance... "We must stop the Swiftboating, stop the push-polling, stop the front groups, and the email chain smears."

Can we, Sen. Kerry, also stop this lame wallowing in self-pity over the campaign blunder you made? and unlike the anonymous attacks you claim are being made against Obama, these responses to your heroic assertions were made by identified people in the light of day."

If the Obama camp or Kerry the Quitter could prove the Clintons were behind these smears, they could probably skate right into the White House - if they could only prove their claims.

[question everything]

50. That's because he will never be an ex-president

and a lot of the reasons can be traced to his campaign.

[Occam Bandage]

51. We'll need an entire fleet of Waaaahmbulances for this thread.

[YvonneCa]

53. HElloooooo.....

...Democratic Underground??? Are there any Democrats left on DU?

[dpbrown]

55. Apparently not many in the United States Senate, actually

Just sayin'

[YvonneCa]

116. Ya missed the point. n/t

[Cha]

56. Let me guess...you love the way the clintons lie?

right? I thought so.

[dpbrown]

57. Let me guess...you love the way a has-been Senator smears a successful Democratic President

right? I thought so.

[wisteria]

74. Clinton is a has been President who has been smearing a fellow

Democrat using lies, misrepresentations and racial innuendos. You think this is ok? Do you think he represents our party well when he does this? He seems sleazy and classless to me.
Call Senator Kerry any childish thing you want. Those of us who support him and many more people who respect him throughout the US, think differently that you do.

[karynnj]

113. Kerry and many of the Democrats have spoken out

and they are right - Clinton is being a jerk. Kerry has more integrity in one fingernail than both Clintons combined.

[wisteria]

58. Ah, Senator Kerry speaking truth to power. This a man of integrity. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

62. Clinton

lies.

Kerry's just pointing out the obvious!



"That's why I supported the Iraq thing." Bill Clinton, June 23, 2004 (CNN)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/index.html

"I opposed the war in Iraq from the beginning." Bill Clinton, 11/27/2007, (NYT)
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/us/politics/28clinton.html?ex=1353906000&en=cf3f18a5f01db61b&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

[madfloridian]

67. Something is seriously wrong here when a post like this gets on Greatest page

Maybe we have not lowered our expectations enough.

[jlake]

68. I agree. I have defended Kerry up until now. I still do not think it is fair

to trash him. He has a wonderful record, and should be running for re-election right now.
But in his campaigning for Obama he has jumped the shark... and it is hard for me to take him seriously anymore.

[wisteria]

72. I wouldn't expect anything different from a Hillary supporter who

seems to think anything goes as long as it improve her numbers.

Senator Kerry is pointing out the obvious and it has been a long time in coming.

[jlake]

84. Sorry, this attack was over the top. Kerry should know better.

[jillan]

73. Unlike Kerry - here is how a real gentleman dealt with the press about Bill today

Another reporter asked for his thoughts on former President Clinton's role and tone in the campaign.

"I have no thoughts about that," the Delaware Democrat said. (Biden)

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080125/NEWS/801250327/1006/N

Even "long winded, foot in mouth" Biden knows that there is a line you don't cross when discussing an ex-President of your own party.

I have lost alot of respect for John Kerry today.

[ProSense]

75. "I have lost alot of respect for John Kerry today."

Here is who you prefer to respect.


Bill has been doing nothing but lying. Respect him if you want, but don't try to claim Kerry did something wrong in calling him on it.


Here is how a gentleman responds when put in a difficult situation by a president who lies

[wisteria]

Oh, good link. Thanks for the reminder. n/t

[jillan]

88. I have come to the conclusion that no matter what Kerry does and says - it's wonderful.

Just like how you were against Biden's plan for Iraq ----- until Kerry co-sponsored it.

I cannot take supporters of a candidate, or in this case a politician, that think their candidate walks on water
and can do no wrong. You can ask the Bidenites about that.

I think John Kerry is a wonderful man, but when he is wrong - I will call him out on it.
And it has nothing to do with what you may *think* I feel about Bill Clinton; nor who you *think* I support in the primary.

[Inuca]

99. Pirhana

"Kerry is a wonderful man" and "I lost all respect" do not go very well together.

[jillan]

104. I said I have lost alot of respect for Kerry, not all.

[Inuca]

121. Correct. Me bad n/t

[karynnj]

115. Biden changed the part Kerry objected to

The plan as passed gave the Iraqis the ability to define the partitions and their role versus the federal government rather than having us stipulate both. Kerry is on record (and video with Blitzer saying the Biden plan was thoughtful but that change was needed as early as November 2006.)

I was against it for that reason - I bought Kerry's argument that it reeked of the colonial path for us to draw the lines. Do you need the link to Kerry's and Biden's speeches when that amendment passed? Biden says Kerry was consistent from 2003.

http://www.kerryvision.net/2007/09/biden_gives_props_to_senator_k.html

None of this has anything to do with the topic.

The facts there are:
1) Clinton has told many lies in the last 2 weeks.
2) Kerry has always felt that truth is important to gaing the trust needed to lead and that it is an important virtue. (In 2004, even his daughters spoke of how lying was the thing he was toughest on with them.)
3) Kerry has always said when something is wrong, you need to speak out.

So - which of these bother you?

[wisteria]

79. I am sorry that Biden did not go farther in this race, but

to take it out on Kerry is wrong of you. Of course Biden has nothing to say, he is still hurting from his loss.
What Senator Kerry is doing is protecting a fellow Democrat from being "swift boated". It makes no difference who is doing the lying and smearing on a personal level- it is wrong. I am sorry that you don't see that and that you chose to belittle Senator Kerry and stick up for the one who is perpetrating the lies and the smears. President Clinton is the one acting disrespectful.

I am proud to say, I stand with Senator Kerry on this matter and totally RESPECT what he is doing. On the other hand, I have just about lost all respect for President Clinton as he has brought me to this point all by himself.

[JI7]

81. maybe that's why Biden lost so badly, and Kerry owes nothing to Bill

especially considering Bill thought it was admirable what Karl Rove did to Kerry.

[jillan]

87. Maybe if Biden ran in 2004 instead of now - we may actually have had a Democrat in the WH.

Biden doesn't owe anything to Bill - now you are starting rumors.

[bdamomma]

90. I love that picture of Senator Biden, what a miss he is?

:shrug: can you image Joe up against John McCain now that would have been interesting, oops I am changing the subject here.

[jillan]

95. Thanks - on both counts :)

If McCain is the nom, it will be a shame that it's not Biden debating him.
Biden would definitely be able to 'fight' McCain word by word.

[karynnj]

117. He actually did test the waters in 2003 in Iowa - and they were cold.

[beachmom]

119. What's happened to you? Sorry, but Joe Biden is no John Kerry.

NEVER will be either.

I respect Biden as a foreign policy expert in the Senate. But he will never have a quote remembered in history like Kerry has "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

I am sorry you are disappointed with Biden's loss, and that you think Bill Clinton can say whatever he wants including smears and lies, but your words today are very hurtful and uncalled for.

[JI7]

124. well, considering how badly he did this time, that's kind of hard to believe

and Biden had a lot to say about political strategy when Kerry was running rather than speak about Kerry's background and issues.

so this stuff about how he is about issues and not politics is just bs.

i like Biden a lot. i'm sorry he did so bad. but it has nothing to do with Kerry.

and i didn't say Biden owes Bill anything. i was referring to those who think Kerry owes Bill something. he certainly doesn't.

[karynnj]

114. No that is Biden pandering to the former and to the likely future President

As Biden, once said - Kerry is a very classy guy. He always is - here he is calling Bill on documentable lies.

Ex-Presidents shouldn't behave as Bill Clinton is doing.

[beachmom]

118. So all of Kerry's heroic actions in the past are wiped away by one

sentence he uttered? Especially since unlike Bill Clinton, John Kerry told the truth.

[ShortnFiery]

80. John Kerry speaks the truth. Bill Clinton is the one who has "jumped the shark." eom.

[dpbrown]

85. A President who presided over 8 years of peace and prosperity will never "jump the shark"

When Kerry has that kind of record, then he can smear successful former Presidents.

[fujiyama]

82. Kerry jumping the shark?

What a joke. Kerry (and Al Gore for that matter) has more integrity and decency than Bill ever had. Either would likely have been a better president too.

Bill Clinton is petty and has become very unpresidential over the last few weeks. I've lost most of my respect for him. Kerry is telling the absolute truth. That's something Bill doesn't have the capability of doing.

[ozone_man]

86. I agree with Kerry about Clinton.

It had to be said. He's a DLC attack dog for Hillary. Let's not go back to the 90's, reliving the Clinton sleaze factor.

[bdamomma]

89. oh geez, everyone is getting into the act. the democratic party

better watch out or we could blow it for ourselves.

[AtomicKitten]

91. John Kerry is absolutely right.

[karynnj]

92. THe Clintons jumped the shark, not John Kerry

We do not need leaders who lie to us to get what they want. I regret that Democrats nominated Bill Clinton the first time when we already knew that his first impulse to negatives charges was to lie. In 2004, I gradually felt more and more comfortable with the fact that Kerry had the integrity and honesty to be a President I could trust - even when I disagreed with him.

Truth is important and we should not become a party that accepts swiftboating. Knowing now that it is both Clintons plan for Bill dto do whatever is needed - a lie here, voter suppression there - followed in true Rovian fashion by accusing your opponent with what you were trying to do.

As far as I am concerned, both Clintons jumped the shark in the last month with these tactics. Talking to a college kid, majoring in religious studies at a Jesuit school, I felt awful when she spoke of how much it will hurt her remaining trust in government that this is possibly the way that Obama will lose the nomination. HRC had much to run on - but as soon as it got tight - this is wheer they ran.

[Bluerthanblue]

93. John Kerry has spoken truth- if you can't handle it, you might

want to carry around a puke bucket-

Uncomfortable truth sometimes makes people nauseous, but that doesn't change the fact that it is truth.

peace~

[Meshuga]

98. John Kerry is a man of great integrity

You cannot compare Bill Clinton and John Kerry in the honesty and integrity department. Bill Clinton will continue to abuse the truth and do anything possible to get what he wants. The Clinton campaign (and supporters) will do anything to attack and smear anybody who gets in the way.

[themaguffin]

102. I've never seen a TV show called "John Kerry"

How did it jump the shark?

[LibraLiz1973]

106. He actually jumped it in November of 2004 IMHO.

[CyberPieHole]

111. This from a man who was too much of a wuss to fight back the repubs...

:puke:

"Ex~President"??? Are his grapes, as they say, a tad bitter?

[Avalux]

125. He's right. Bill Clinton thinks he can say and do whatever he wants.

He's very good at "stretching the truth" and I'm sure he though being a popular ex-president would give him a free pass with Democrats.