The reason for the Hillary Obama bloodbath..

[Blarch]

One campaign has vowed to use Rove tactics.

Thats right, this is getting posted again because the Hillary supporters keep calling it bullshit.

They have become very good at shooting the messenger.

Can at least ONE Hillary supporter tell me how they feel about the Hillary campaign vowing to use Rove Tactics ?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/14/AR2007081401722.html
Clinton's campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, seems to agree with that assessment, having effectively vowed to run her operation much as Rove did his two successful national campaigns. "She expresses admiration for the way George W. Bush's campaign team controlled its message, and, given her druthers, would run this race no differently

The Clinton's recognize the skill Rove has brought to politics and admire his craft, if not his ideology. Just days after the November 2004 election, Bill Clinton pulled Rove aside at the dedication of the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Arkansas. "Hey, you did a marvelous job, it was just marvelous what you did," Clinton told Rove, according to the book "The Way to Win: Taking the White House in 2008," by John F. Harris and Mark Halperin. "I want to get you down to the library. I want to talk politics with you. You just did an incredible job, and I'd like to really get together with you and I think we could have a great conversation."



Hillary supporters will have to address this issue, can any of you tell me how you feel about this ? ...and will you accept the truth that this story is real ?

[rinsd]

1. I reject your characterization which is ironically quite Rovian.

Its all about message discipline which the Bush campaign did very well.

I said the same thing when you repeatedly posted this crap earlier.

Ya know in between you're telling outright lies.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2710627

[Blarch]

3. But the message is a lie.

The messaage is swift boating

The message is smearing

Thats Rove for ya.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. I accept the fact that you don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

[Blarch]

6. Ya.

I really twisted those direct quotes around. :eyes:

[Mike Nelson]

4. I don't agree either, and

it's very media-driven (the 'bloodbath')

[HughMoran]

5. more bullshit

:eyes:

[zanne]

7. Hillary and Bill have learned alot from Karl Rove...

Unfortunately, they failed to use their new skills when we needed them to try to save our democracy. It seems they only want to use them to get Hillary elected; then we'll have a Rove tactician in the White House. Whoopee.

[aquart]

8. And is this real, too?

<http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/540781,CST-NWS-camp04.article>

'Ruthless' for Obama

September 4, 2007
BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter/[e-mail]

"The next tip is to be absolutely ruthless," Jocelyn Woodards tells the campers. "We want you to be determined, ambitious, take a risk."

No toasted marshmallows here. This is the second day of Camp Obama, a two-day (sometimes four-day) intensive training course in becoming an activist to help get Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) elected president.

-snip-

Obama is not like other candidates, and part of this training is learning to mimic the methods he used before he was an elected official -- back when he was a community organizer in Chicago following the textbook of legendary agitator Saul Alinsky.

Saul Alinsky wanted results
Rivals of Obama know that while he may at times appear to channel Martin Luther King Jr., his methods sometimes give evidence of his allegiance to Alinsky, who shunned starry-eyed idealists and recommended purging do-gooders from organizations. Alinsky wanted results. And his methods often forced the hands of elected officials."

[emilyg]

9. Nonsense.