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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:45 PM
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So. The MSM locked Dennis Kucinich out of six debates and now the race.
Who among the remaining Democratic candidates will cry foul and work hard to remove the MSM from the electoral process? Who will gain my vote through standing up for Democracy itself?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:49 PM
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1. probably none IMHO.
But maybe Edwards sooner or later could. But vote I must else they'll win. :banghead:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:55 PM
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2. We have to stand up ourselves
I tell folks not to trust the MSM. I'm finding that more and more folks agree with me that it is pure propaganda.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:59 PM
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3. Dennis and his rabid followers were their own worst enemy...
if there were rules about any of the debates, Kucinich found innovative ways to disregard them. He missed important dates, was here when he was supposed to be there, failed to comply with even the simplist of requirements and ended up with 1% national support.

Don't blame Dennis's problems on the msm.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:30 PM
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4. Then you are comfortable with the way the MSM portrays the Democrats?
Do you think their portrayals are fair and balanced? That they are asking substantial questions about the issues? That they don't favor the Republican candidates like Guliani, who has trailed in all polls yet is still in debates? If you think the MSM isn't biased in favor of the Republicans, then quit reading this post right here.

Kucinich may have made mistakes, but the MSM did not play fair with him from the outset. Look at how little air time they gave him in relation to the other candidates. And we are, I'm afraid, destined to see a repeat of their performance as they decide who our nominee will be and give that person a lion's share of air time, ignoring other candidates. Meanwhile, the Republicans are given softball questions on debates and all candidates are represented. This is why it is important to address this problem now and to come up with solution.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:47 PM
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8. That is not entirely true.
He "passed" the requirements for some and was summarily excluded. Others were harder for him to "pass" even though it looks, IMO and correct me if I'm wrong, like the weakest Republican candidates, have less support.

And I'll certainly remain rabid regarding the Democratic process and the recovery of Democracy from all of those who are destroying it. Candidates who are weak on the Democracy issue don't fly with me.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:02 PM
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16. They're obviously using a different set of standards for the Repuke debate.
They desperately want to keep Ron Paul out of the 'Pukefests. But they can't lock him out and keep 9u11ani in, because Paul is doing better than Rudy. And Rudy hasn't won shit, and he isn't going to win shit, but they HAVE to keep him in the debates, because everything out of his useless mouth is "a noun, a verb, and 9-11"*, and the FEAR AND TERRA message is one they need to keep rolling.















* I'm really not a Joe Biden fan at all, but he definitely NAILED 9u11ani with that one.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:26 PM
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17. An extremely good point!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:57 PM
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14. yes we do
if we don`t then we have learned nothing from the last 8 years. i`m afraid that many do not realize this
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:40 PM
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5. next for the hit: Edwards
The DLC and the MSM have already made it perfectly clear that no one but HRC and OHB will get air time, ink, or endorsements.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:53 PM
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11. i agree.. here at du it`s the pissing contest
between obama and clinton supporters. i will say that the edwards supporters are abit above the fray...
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:41 PM
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6. Locked Gravel out of seven.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:57 PM
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13. I wasn't aware of that (shows that it works, eh?)
And I'm upset that Dennis didn't mention it, either. Huh...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:45 PM
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7. none of them
no one has gained my trust that they will help the people who have the least.

"Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:49 PM
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9. No one
:mad:
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:52 PM
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10. Probably no one will be as perfect as Dennis for you.
So now it's up to you to decide to either enthusiastically support someone who is still in the running, decide to vote against the republicans or stay home. No one is going to beg for your support, nor should they.

Hillary, Obama and John are all good candidates. I'm not fond of Obama's ex-gay hangers on, but as a yellow dog dem, that wouldn't preclude me from voting for him in the general.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:55 PM
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12. i`m writing dennis in when i vote feb 5th
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:58 PM
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15. I think that's great
And a fabulous way for you to continue showing support for him. Not that you need my validation or anything, but I do hope you will vote dem in the general election in November.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:34 PM
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18. I'm not holding my breath for any of 'em to step up...
if they haven't by now, I doubt it'll happen.

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:00 AM
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19. Thanks. I just cannnot muster any respect for them as a result, much less any votes.
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