Obama doesn't look like the same refreshing candidate from 3 months ago.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

The post-Rezko, post-bungled votes, post-present votes, post-Reagan praise, post IWR waffling, post pro Patriot Act vote Obama doesn't seem like the same candidate. His support would be half of what it is if they knew then what they know now.

[KennedyGuy]

1. Flailing.. stuttering.. stammering.. lying..

ah..for the Oprah days...

[Proud2BAmurkin]

8. hey what ever happened to Oprah

[CubsWaitNoYankees]

15. Whatever happened to Hsu?

Or Rezco?

Or Mark Rich?

Or the rest of Bush lite's scandals.

[Nedsdag]

26. Don't forget Peter Paul.

And if the Hillbots believe the GOP hasn't forgotten about John Huang, Charlie Trie and the dishwashers donating $2,000 of money they don't have, they're sadly mistaken.

[niceypoo]

78. What ever happened to William Hung?

Blah, blah, blah. Both sides are frigging pathetic anymore.

[niceypoo]

79. Delete

[niceypoo]

80. Whatever happened to Ken Starr?

Or Vince Foster?
Or Travel gate?
Or the 90s Clinton hater GOP bandwagon?

[laugle]

49. She's busy reading all the

hate messages on the "oprah is a traitor" web sites......she's really getting a backlash.....

[godai]

19. Bill Clinton?? n/t

[jlake]

2. Just wait until the whole Rezko story finally comes out

His "new kind of politics" is just dirty Chicago politics.

[Seen the light]

4. A Clinton supporter talking about questionable campaign contributions

:rofl:

[jlake]

11. Rezko goes far beyond dirty contributions.

The real estate deal is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Seen the light]

52. Ok

:rofl:

[jlake]

58. Glad you think it's funny. Just how do you think Obama came out of nowhere

.... he's got a dirty Chicago crew supporting him.

[Seen the light]

68. No offense

I'm really not being my usual self tonight and have been degrading posters that I normally wouldn't do. I want to apologize for that.

And so anyway, don't you think I could easily turn that around and ask how a little-known governor in Arkansas came out of nowhere to win the presidency? Or how someone that wasn't even a New York resident until the year prior to her campaign won the New York Senate race?

All of those questions are patently unfair as is the one that you just asked and answered.

[jlake]

76. Not quite. Hillary Clinton was the First Lady, and was VERY visible....no dice on that.

Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas, not a state senator.
Of course questions can still be asked.

[Kittycat]

3. And HRC just looks more crooked & rovian-esque

What's your point?

[KennedyGuy]

12. Rovian? it was Obama who fed an irrelevant pik to Drudge...

How do people function without the capacity to think...

[godai]

21. You know this? How? n/t

[CubsWaitNoYankees]

25. She's really laid it all out.

A duplicitous old-school wench. The kind KennedyGuy likes to be dominated by. Explains his support.

[KennedyGuy]

31. you need to at least try to get laid pup..you seem a little sexually tense

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. But neither does Hillary. A plague on both their houses.

I wish they'd stop squabbling like a couple of pissy fifth-graders and talk about actual issues. The more I hear from either of them, the more persuaded I am to caucus for Edwards on Feb. 5.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. He Looks Like Every Other Politician Including Hillary Clinton And John Edwards

We are electing a president...We are not annointing a saint...

[Proud2BAmurkin]

9. yup

[MannyGoldstein]

7. No Doubt Obama Will Take A Beating Tomorrow

Then She shall reign for ever and ever.

Hallelujah!

Hallelujah!

[DJ13]

10. The beady eyes, the calculating stare, the slight tick when telling a lie

Hillary aint lookin too hot.

[keep_it_real]

13. Hillary has some stuff in her closet

That maybe worst than all of Obama's and you can't imagine what is is.

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[jlake]

17. You've got the wrong website bub.

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

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[jlake]

30. Nope. Sticking up for true Democrats may make me unpolular to some here,

but I am a Democrat since birth.

[jlake]

36. And I really cannot believe that even a member of Obamanation would

support that sexist shit. "if she didn't look like this then maybe Bill wouldn't have cheated"
Hardy har har.... good one Rush.

[jefferson_dem]

48. Your hollow sanctimony doesn't impress me.

Practice what you preach. Then we'll talk.

[jlake]

61. meh. The poster is no longer with us. Looks like I was right.

[jefferson_dem]

65. Nevermind.

Have a nice evening. :hi:

[HughMoran]

64. You were sticking up for a RW shill posting pics linked to a RW website

Now, how do you feel about that?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. Your Friend Got Tombstoned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GYI6XJH9Ss

[jefferson_dem]

70. Wasn't my friend.

My post had nothing to do with that troll.

[godai]

27. No he doesn't, bub n/t

[jlake]

32. ....

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :puke:

[jlake]

55. looks like I was right. They are no longer with us.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[HughMoran]

69. So you're a RW shill too?

Is that the type of person you need to defend so that you candidate can look good?

[godai]

81. Have you stopped beating your wife?

In other words, do you know what a leading question is?

[HughMoran]

85. It seemed appropriate

:shrug:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Hey- I Found Your Picture

http://www.abevigoda.com/

You're quite fetching....

Woof Woof...

[jlake]

33. ....

sorry, wrong place.

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[HughMoran]

57. Why are you linking a picture from a conservative web site

http://olbroad.com/silentespeaks/

Huh?

[HughMoran]

60. Oh, I think "Deleted Message" speaks for itlself

Doh!

Bad troll, no biscuit!

[dionysus]

63. suffice it to say i'm... not on team HRC. but that shit is way over the line.

[AGirl]

34. oh wow, never thought i see that picture on here.

[Jim Sagle]

35. Fuck off ya fuckin' freeper.

[Jamastiene]

45. My sentiments exactly.

This person is an obvious troll. Every single post I've seen from this troll has been name calling DUers and dissing all Democrats.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. I'm Glad It's Here

Isn't it ironic that the candidate who promises to bring us together has the most vile, mean spirited supporters...

[Jamastiene]

50. And they are OUT!

Looks like the umpires/calvary saved us. :P

[HughMoran]

72. Interesting that a right-winger was here to support Obama

and bash Hillary. They were linking pictures from a conservative site - I found the home site before the post was deleted - see here -> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4205159&mesg_id=4205641

[laugle]

75. Amen to that.......he is

proving to be very divisive. I have never seen the dem party so hateful towards their supporters......I do think that some of it rethug mischief too.

I was listening to Bill Press last night on AA radio, he said he got 75 nasty e-mails, all from Obama supporters, because he said we should vote for the dem nominee, whomever it is! He was so angry that people were basically saying "if you don't vote for Obama, you can't count on us for the dem vote in the GE."

He proceeded to go into a litany of reasons why people had better think again about that, i.e., supreme court, jobs, education, health care, social security, etc.

IMO, this type of attitude will end up hurting Obama more that helping him..................

[DemocratSinceBirth]

84. It's Ironic

His supporters want to bring us together, how?

By disrespecting and insulting us?

It's clear they (hate) us more than they hate Republicans...

Why can they not see this?

It's scary...

[laugle]

87. Yeah....it's really a bad strategy, especially when we

will need every vote to defeat the evil rethugs and their cheating machines.......anyway.....vote democrat, because the alternative is "UNTHINKABLE!"

[Jim Sagle]

95. That's because he's a Republican.

He wants to bring us together by demolishing the Democratic Party.

[bluestateguy]

16. I don't think he can handle the rigors of a real campaign

And by that I mean a campaign with a real opponent--Alan Keyes does not count, and state senate races are, well, minor league.

If he think Hillary is going rough on him, he has no idea what the RNC stormtroopers have in store for him.

[eallen]

83. Actually, I think Rove has nothing on the Clintons when it comes to campaigning....

It's good practice for Obama, and he'll do fine.

:hippie:

[DURHAM D]

18. I doubt he would win Iowa now.

Probably a whole lot of buyer's remorse out there.

I just re-read the New York Times article on David Axelrod from last April. It is long but worth the time as you see all of David's ideas unfold. Obama is nothing more than a lab project that David has been working on for 15 years.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

20. "lab project" good way to put it

[DURHAM D]

40. I truly did not realize how long this project has been in the works

or how many years the association between the media guy and the empty vessel has been going on.

I have also been going back and reading up on David's best friend - Rahm Emanuel. Everyone thinks he is a Hillary supporter - he is not. She didn't like him and wanted him fired from the W.H. He is secretly working for Obama. Note the call Rahm placed to Bill last week telling him to shut up. Then it got trumpeted all over the press by the Obama camp. The smarmy congressman is not worthy of carrying Bill's underwear. But, the smarmy congressman, the slimy media guy and top political strategist and the empty vessel thought the press would be too stupid to figure out the real deal. They were right about the media lemmings.

Those who think Dean will be fired by Hillary are looking at the wrong candidate. If Obama wins he will fire Dean. Everyone surely remembers the open hostility between the DCCC (Rahm and Axelrod the DCCC's media person) and Dean in the run up to the 2006 elections about fund placement.

[Cameron27]

89. It's obvious that Axelrod

tried to run Obama as the second coming and he succeeded up until NH. I didn't read about his 15 year plan though, and I never knew that Rahm was working against Hillary. Wow.

If you have the link to the Axelrod piece, I'd like to read it.

[DURHAM D]

92. Just google David Axelrod and New York Times.

It will be the first thing up.

I have actually read a bunch of David and Rahm stuff so can't direct you to one place.

As to Hillary not liking Rahm - I didn't research it today so I don't know what is available online. My problem is that I read books, newspapers and magazines in addition to using the internet. I think the info on Rahm was from a magazine article. It stuck with me because I have always thought Rahm was a slime ball and I was glad to read that Hillary thought likewise.

[Cameron27]

94. Ok, I'll google Axelrod and the NYT.

You know, I always thought that Rahm was an ardent Clinton backer too, and I'm delighted to hear that he isn't.

Thanks, I'm off to read.

[jefferson_dem]

74. A Democratic candidate for president who has millions of supporters...

and has won more delegates that your candidate so far is a "lab project."

That's some truly disgusting shit you guys are pumping out. Frankly, I'm ashamed to say I share a party with you.

[Name removed]

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[jefferson_dem]

91. Fuck Off.

I've been a proud Democrat since I knew what one was and have actively supported every Democratic nominee for president... We'll see how things shake out but your candidate and her vitriolic supporters may change all that. Rest well, troll.

[DURHAM D]

93. Once again you prove to be an idiot as well as an ass. n/t

[mtnsnake]

22. If you think he looks bad, wait until we get a gander of Gullini after he gets his ass kicked in FL

He won't look quite the same either.

[KittyWampus]

28. Funny, Hillary NEVER looked refreshing. She's simply a has been trying to drag the Democratic party

backward so it can be drowned in the bathtub.

[jefferson_dem]

44. Hillary is hideous.

Her selfish, scorched-earth campaign should be soundly rejected. However, it appears some of her supporters share her "say anything do anything" philosophy. If she wins this way, we all lose.

[Occam Bandage]

29. Sure he does, despite y'alls attempts. His personal favorables/unfavorables are unchanged.

[jefferson_dem]

37. The foamers are out in force tonight, spewing their hate and lies.

Their candidate would be proud.

[Nedsdag]

39. The Hillbots are laughing now.

They won't be laughing in November.

[jefferson_dem]

51. If she wins, we all lose.

The last thing this country needs is four more years of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.

[KennedyGuy]

47. pot..meet kettle

you actually posted that with a straight face..
:rofl:

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[wisteria]

38. Senator Obama is looking better and better to me. Especially after Bill Clinton's

ranting and ravings. I am almost as disgusted in Clinton now as I am with Bush.
This disgusting power grab is a real turn off and if the Clinton's think everything will be fine after the primaries, they better think again.

[WillyT]

41. Yep... The Campaigning Take Its Toll On Everyone I Suppose...

:evilgrin:

[Jed Dilligan]

71. That pic always reminds me of the urban legend

where the girl births millions of tiny shrimp after using a live lobster for...

[goldcanyonaz]

43. Rode hard, and put away wet.

[jefferson_dem]

59. Your avatar?

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

73. "Do not post messages that are bigoted ..."

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[jefferson_dem]

77. Oh stop the selective outrage, DSB.

Obama is referred to as a "lab project" and worse in posts above.

[dionysus]

54. sewer gas

troll on...

[Snarkoleptic]

67. Screw Obama and Clinton.

Vote your heart...Edwards is the populist candidate and will do right by all of us.
Obama lacks depth.
Clinton energizes the repukes.
Edwards is the candiate who truly scares the shit out of the big business dildoes who have squeezed the life our the middle class.

[dailykoff]

82. At least he isn't looking like Lily Munster.

No offense Herman! :hi:

[Arkana]

86. He's better than the McCandidate that is Hillary Clinton.

Six bungled votes in over a thousand--and he stated in "Audacity of Hope" that he wondered one day if an opponent would be desperate enough to use it against him. Yet another desperation move--and for the record, he cleared up his actual vote on all of them.

"Present" does not mean what you think it means. NPR did a segment where they explained it quite well. Geez, I thought Democrats were smart enough to understand nuanced positions.

HE NEVER PRAISED REAGAN'S POLICIES. GODDAMNIT. READ THE QUOTE IN CONTEXT.

If you want IWR waffling look no further than Hillary. She's done enough of it in the 5 years we've been in Iraq. She sways like a windsock with the political prevailing winds.

[Cameron27]

90. Don't shout,

most of us watched the video and listened to him ourselves. We can all make up our own minds, thank you very much.

[cooolandrew]

96. Yeah, check this clip to see what he looks like

video link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1MGi12RspA

[robbedvoter]

97. And he was barely touched