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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:30 AM
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Kucinich dropped out but I'm not really upset about it.....
Yeah, I don't like the way the primaries are going nor do I take solace in the fact that candidates can be locked out of a debate. The debates need to be moved to public television and off the corporate airwaves.

That's my take on it.

Either way, ideas are more important than the person. I wasn't entirely in agreement with everything Dennis and I'm not the type to play suck up to candidates. Yet, of all the candidates on the issues Dennis had it in spades and literaly Trumped everyone in the running. I find it interesting that these folks now pretend they are of his pedigree when it comes to taking on corporations.

Oh well.

Dennis had the best platform for working people that stressed we should not nor do we have to fight each other for bread crumbs. Whether we are from Mexico, China, Spain or Ireland, we are entitled to the same protections as workers. Those rights should not only be contained by Americas borders and should be a global effort to extend them to everyone.

I am apreciative that we had one candidate willing to stand at odds with the ideas of Lou Dobbs and his greedy corporate buddies. Dobbs idea that workers should behave like hungry animals and fight eachother based on nationality for the masters table scraps always sickened me. Candidates running under a Democratic flag endorsing those ideas while pretending they are "for the working man" should be ashamed.

Those ideas of social and economic justice are what motivates me to do what I do every day. A candidate at the end of the day is just a candidate. Should they fall during primary season it's the ideas which should matter most.

And the workers struggle for justice and those fighting in this struggle know that better than most.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:36 AM
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1. There goes our last hope for real universal health care.
Nobody else supports single payer.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 07:49 AM
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14. We now have the big three candidates
who would support Single Payer 'if we had the votes.'

Have they never heard of leadership?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:39 AM
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2. Something is going on with Dennis..
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 03:42 AM by Tellurian
something turned him off of his campaign. He knows something, perhaps about Obama's campaign and Kerry.
Something smells rotten in Denmark and Dennis knows what it is..something rotten enough, to make him bow out of the race.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:43 AM
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3. any reason that you would say that?
what do you base that on?
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:05 AM
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4. Yes, I think his brother dying might be it.
But who knows?
I would rather see Dennis give his full force to impeachment.
I would rather see Dennis as Speaker of the House.
If we could do that, then we would show how powerful the Democratic wing of the party was.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:10 AM
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5. I think your right... it was a full powered u-turn
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 04:11 AM by vmaus
something is up... it's so out of character for him and what he was saying and doing right up to the day he jettisoned. Dennis would not quit... not for anything.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:00 AM
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6. Yes, exactly..
Seeing Dennis was willing to give his Iowa votes to Obama, is why I tend to think he was drawn into their confidence after he agreed to help him. Knowing DK's personality, if he thought there was a stench of corruption growing in Obama's campaign or that somehow Obama's campaign will be tainted by the Rezko Trial, is something that would cause him to do a 180 saying he is done and instantly distance himself from anything unseemly.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 07:41 AM
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12. what a load of crap but doesn't surprise me coming from you.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:18 AM
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15. "I only did about 5 hrs of work for Rezko"..
sellit brother/sister!

:rofl:
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:32 AM
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7. I think I know a possible reason...
or two.

He's probably completely out of money, hence why the recount in NH stopped.

Also, he's got serious challengers for his seat in the primary. So he might be thinking about keeping his current job first.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 07:20 AM
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8. Oh, brother, that's quite the bag of smelly stuff
What the hell, Tellurian. If you've got something, put it out there. You're wildly speculating without even giving us the speculation. If there is some God only knows what coming from Obama and Kerry that has shocked DENNIS KUCINICH out of doing whatever he damned well thinks is best to do, it could end the world. We deserve to know what you have up your sleeve so we can get in the canned goods.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 07:29 AM
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10. Um, not at all.
Dennis quit the race because he's in a tough fight for his House seat. If you read anything beyond that site you sport as your tag line, you'd know that. If you'd like to know more about why this is such a tough race for him, I'd be glad to help.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 07:40 AM
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11. instead of using your imagination if you read anything about why he may have done it
it is because he has a primary challenge in his district and he wants to give it his full attention.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 07:22 AM
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9. Gravel is still in. And DK didn't speak up when HE was kicked out from the debates.
Just sain'
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:30 PM
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16. Who cares?
I'm not complaining that the others didn't do the same for Dennis.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:10 PM
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17. Gravel was never invited to the MSNBC debate
Dennis was. And then he was uninvited. THAT'S why he filed the suit.

If Gravel was so mad about not getting invited, why didn't he lodge a complaint himself? Is Gravel incapable of fighting his own battles? :shrug:
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:38 AM
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18. Dennis was never invited or uninvited
The rule for the MSNBC debate were that the top four finishers in New Hampshire get a podium. Richardson dropped out leaving Dennis as the forth.

MSNBC immediatly changed the rules so that Dennis could not get any airtime.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 07:45 AM
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13. He moved the debate to the left and every donation was worth it in that respect.
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