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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:08 PM
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Room for Al Gore in the race?
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 12:12 PM by SallyMander
Cafferty, on CNN.com - http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/25/room-for-a... /

In many ways, its been a strange campaign up to this point. But it could get a lot stranger.

Consider this: What if we go through the Florida primary and Super Tuesday and the race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama remains as tight as its been? For the primaries, Democrats have the same rules in every state: delegates are awarded in proportion to the vote meaning no winner-take-all. If Clinton and Obama continue to split the vote in many states, its possible we could get to late spring or early summer and neither candidate would have enough delegates to secure the nomination.

And thats assuming they get that far without destroying each other with their increasingly nasty bickering. There just might be an opening for someone else to step in and unify the party. Oh, you know, like say maybe Al Gore.


Edit to add -- i still daydream about this, but i think it's especially interesting because of how telling it is about the current dissatisfaction with our candidates. That's why we're still hearing about Gore, IMHO. Gore/Edwards, anyone?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:09 PM
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1. gee, a REAL anti-war candidate now that dennis is out? one can only hope nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:13 PM
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:19 PM
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3. in my estimation,
the reply post is being constructed right about now.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:02 PM
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17. It's already posted, so hurry up and put some BS response together
As if I haven't read it all here already.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:21 PM
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4. Hey, i'm just the messenger

:evilgrin:


And a conservation biologist, so i'm doing my part. I just wish there were a candidate i could feel truly passionate about, environmentally speaking.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:56 PM
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14. Decimate it? Sorry, the only decimation going on is from the MSM...
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 12:57 PM by RestoreGore
That doesn't give a damn about Mr. Gore unless they can tie him into their political rhetoric. So here is my response to this. I hope it makes your day.

So yes, let's push Mr. Gore back into this against his will, because he sure isn't appreciated on the whole by the MSM and many others it seems for all of the great work he is now doing on this crisis and so much more that will define this generation which he can now devote all of his time to which he wasn't allowed to do stuck in that system for thirty years. So let's push him into it again to have to go through that crap all over again. And of course, the MSM and I would suspect some out here are getting bored with the current crop because they squeezed out all of the pettiness, hatred, and bickering they could... so of course, they would just LOVE to have Al Gore as a target again to bring out some more and really divert him off his chosen path. They would just LOVE to see a knock down bloodletting bare knuckles fight between him and Bill Clinton to get their ratings up and make it "interesting". Frankly, they make me sick.

It is amazing to me how this man could win the Nobel Peace Prize and that is still not mentioned by so many when talking about him. He sits in Davos for an hour workshop on climate change and global poverty, and still all people want to talk about regarding him is the "horserace" that he is not even part of rather than the pressing crisis we face. Did Jack Cafferty happen to mention the campaign that he IS launcing this next month through The Aliance for Climate Protection? Of course not, because that just isn't important or sexy enough.

I am not in the least bit interested in seeing him have to go through all of that crap again especially when he has stated truthfully that the people of this country are not at the place where they should be to demand that climate change be the primary issue it should be, which we are seeing up close and personal in this campaign because it is not... MAINLY because of people not talking about it loudly enough still. And if he made it the center of his platform in any political campaign now he would be dismissed just like John Edwards because he would be in the same system. Why people don't get that I will never understand.

But hey, the pundits who are now just looking for some red meat to keep people watching will pull whatever they can out the hat as long as it doesn't entail actually DISCUSSING CLIMATE CHANGE. The American people on the whole are still as apathetic and this system is still as corrupted as it was in 2000. But that doesn't matter to those like Jack Cafferty and others in the media who simply want a show... And the same people eat it all up.
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:10 PM
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19. Right on time...
Must have a "Gore thread Alert" system on her computer. Sounds an alarm if a Gore thread is started.
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:38 PM
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5. John Edwards was Gore's choice for VP in 2000...
..but he was advised to go with Lieberman due to the Bill Clinton scandal.

hmmmmmmm....

I'm liking this scenario. Gore is a statesman, and would energize this country in a positive direction. Both Gore and Edwards are about the future. Something else I think about, Bloomberg is a friend of Gore's. How could these elements come together to do an end run around the corporate media driven 'selection' and take the whole thing in November?

It's seems kind of surreal that Gore has not done more for the country, and has left us all at the mercy of the forces he laid out in 'An Assault on Reason'.



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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:45 PM
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8. Welcome to DU!

:hi:


I disagree that he hasn't done much for the country though -- he is doing amazing things for the WORLD, and we all benefit from that!
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:51 PM
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11. Thanks...
..SallyMander. :) Notice though, I did say 'do more' for the country. Al Gore has always been my absolute choice for Pres. Still trying to believe he will be in this, and storm Washington DC. With Edwards on board - that would be awesome!

heh

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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:53 PM
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13. It would be awesome!

Especially with all the ugliness in the primary process... if it were possible to come out of it unscathed, i might be more excited about our current candidates. But they are all getting shredded -- the thought of a fresh perspective is just really nice. :)
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:41 PM
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6. Oh, please. When will this pie in the sky dream of a Gore candidacy stop?
There is no reason for Gore to run for President this year. None. The only thing he'd get out of it is a risk to the reputation he's built up since his humiliating defeat years ago.

He's famous. He's respected around the globe. He's making tons of money. He has a lot of contacts and a lot of power. He is not likely to win the presidential race. He's not going to risk all that he has gained, after losing it all years ago, to go after a small chance at becoming President.

Maybe in the future. But not now.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:51 PM
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12. Aug 29?

:evilgrin:


Seriously though, i agree that he doesn't have a lot to gain PERSONALLY. He is pretty well set up -- respected, successful, influential, etc. I think if he got in it would have less to do with his personal aspirations, and more to do with achieving the incredibly important goal of slowing climate change.
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:59 PM
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15. It seems we are heading into a brokered convention in August...
..so we will see what happens. The way the current 'race' is being handled by MSM, is weakening all the democratic candidates. Gore was right about the '30 second sound bites', and corporate driven media manipulations. Gore has got to care about all of this, whatever his new career is bringing him.

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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:14 PM
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20. He's not likely to win a presidential race???
What you be smokin? Your hemp fabric rug? Or maybe it was those weird shrooms on the pizza last night. Avoid that take out place -- "Crazy Juana's magic pizzas".
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:42 PM
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7. He read my response on the air!:
"Im an Obama supporter, but Id much rather see him beaten by Gore than Clinton!" (Jenny from New York) :)
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:46 PM
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9. Nice!

That's cool! :hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:47 PM
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10. Thanks, SallyMander!
:hi:
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:00 PM
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16. Gore is not running
He was my first choice, but I have to respect his decision to focus on his work for climate change. Even though he has not officially "ruled out" a run, his words about what he thinks about campaigning said it all. Gore will not jump into the race.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:03 PM
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18. I think you are probably right

I just think it is interesting that people are still talking about it -- it really points to the dissatisfaction with the current front-runners, i think.
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:19 PM
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21. Run or not...
The sheer excitement that is aroused at the mere mention of the possibility MUST tell us SOMETHING about both Gore and our current candidates.

Do you think GD-P would EVEN EXIST if Gore was the candidate?

Gore is like a mirror in which we can see a true reflection of both our own hopes and desires AND the current state of affairs regarding the motley crew of current candidates.

This is why I stay out of most GD-P discussions. Hillary, Obama - rate about "2". Edwards maybe a "3". Gore rates a 10. Why argue about a 2 versus a 2.5 or a 3 when you've seen the 10? But he's not running -- sigh...

Yes, yes, I know -- all Republicans rate a NEGATIVE 10, so I'd still vote for a "2".

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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:30 PM
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24. Wish i could recommend your post

This is EXACTLY how i feel! :thumbsup:

:hi:
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:27 PM
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23. If the race continues like this until the convention
there could be a big movement in the convention to draft Gore and give him the nomination. This is a possibility but unlikely to happen. But who knows? :-)
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:25 PM
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22. That would be a dream! Gore coming in the convention to win the nomination
That would be awesome. Good thing that Gore is not running now because the Clinton campaign would smear him to death.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:35 PM
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25. I wish but...
I think its obvious to Gore that by not holding political office, he can accomplish more in terms of climate change awareness. I mean come on after you have won both an Oscar AND a Nobel Peace Prize, being Prez might seem small peanuts.. :)
But seriously, I think an Inconvenient Truth could not have been made if he was holding any kind of office.
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