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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:35 PM
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Edwards just took a flying leap off his pedestal
In a swing here, John Edwards accused his Democratic rivals of bringing “New York and Chicago politics to South Carolina”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/us/politics/25cnd-campaign.html?hp



In other words, "Vote for me instead of those two damn Yankees!"
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:37 PM
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1. Ain't no politics nastier than in South Carolina. I used to live there.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:49 PM
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11. I've lived in SC most of my life, but also in...
NC, GA, IL (Chicago), PA (Philadelphia).

The worst and nastiest political fighting, smearing and machine politics I've ever witnessed took place in Chicago.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:39 PM
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2. Works for me
from the link in the OP


In a swing here, John Edwards accused his Democratic rivals of bringing “New York and Chicago politics to South Carolina” and told voters on the day before the state votes that he is the only candidate who will represent their interests in the White House.

“That may be the way they do politics in New York, it may be the way they do politics in Chicago, but South Carolina is better than that and you deserve better than that,” Mr. Edwards told diners at the Country Ham House, about 35 miles from his hometown of Seneca.

Speaking to reporters after the event, Mr. Edwards criticized Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and Senator Barack Obama by name. “While they’re intent on tearing each other down, I’m intent on building up the people of South Carolina, giving them a real chance, focusing on jobs, health care, things that really affect their day-to-day lives,” he said.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:40 PM
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3. Not necessarily
Here in Massachusetts both New York and Chicago are synonymous with dirty politics.

It isn't just a southern thang.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:47 PM
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9. LOL! Did you know that here in Vermont
Massachusetts style politics are synonymous with dirty politics? And no, I'm not kidding.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:01 PM
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17. I know that....Here in western Mass, we see Boston as Sodom
But Boston did not come up in Edwards comments
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:03 PM
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19. For the record, I don't have a problem with what Edwards said
he's just reinforcing the idea that he's the local boy.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:31 PM
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23. me either.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:41 PM
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4. What he really said with regards to Clinton and Obama:
“While they’re intent on tearing each other down, I’m intent on building up the people of South Carolina, giving them a real chance, focusing on jobs, health care, things that really affect their day-to-day lives,” he said.

He didn't call either of them a damn Yankee. Stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:43 PM
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5. History: Chicago and New York City
Some of the worst election corruption in the history of the world.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:03 PM
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18. yep. Tammany Hall.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:20 PM
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21. Do we have to carry this to the 21st Century?
Shall we tell voters in NY and IL that South Caroline was the worst slave owned and segregated state?

Why are we dragging historical facts into the debate, ignoring any changes? Oh, yes, pandering.

And he is bashing Clinton for voting for the IWR - which, at the time, was supported by most Americans?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:05 PM
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34. Do not forget
Maryland .... bags of cash to Agnew

Louisiana .... Huey Long to now

Florida ..... oh those 16,000 negative votes for Gore? 2000

Ohio ..... We have to count the vote in secret because al Qaeda is
gonna attack. 2004
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:43 PM
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6. Isn't SC politics known for Bush's smears of McCain?
That was the most horrendous thing I've ever seen.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:44 PM
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7. Can't we somehow blame it on Hillary?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:15 PM
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24. Before the day is over - we will.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:45 PM
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8. It's his swan song n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:51 PM
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15. You wish
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 12:52 PM by Blue State Native
:eyes:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:48 PM
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10. As an Edwards supporter, his biggest mistake has been when
he involves himself in the other two's fights.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:49 PM
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12. Wouldn't be a little weird if he didn't remind SC that he's from SC?
:shrug:
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:51 PM
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13. Yeah, the OP kinda misses the whole point of his comment.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:53 PM
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16. When we went on the road to different comedy clubs
Doug used to find some way to tie in locally, every time. It's just what people do to connect with an audience.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:57 PM
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32. As long as he remembered where he was
Even in the Las Vegas debate, at some point Brian Williams, after a break, welcomed all of us to... Los Angeles.

This is almost an occupational hazard when one travels a lot.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:51 PM
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14. That's a stone's throw from the red state/blue state geographical divisiveness
that political leaders will have to stop tapping into someday if we are to move forward.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:04 PM
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20. "Vote for me instead of them"
No. He did NOT.

How could he?????

:sarcasm:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 01:22 PM
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22. ...
:evilgrin:
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:16 PM
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25. Edwards is such a panderer
It's unbelievable. Does he have a stance on anything, or does he just oppose what Obama and Clinton do?
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:23 PM
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27. Actually, it seems to me that more Edwards supporters support him based upon his stances
on issues than supporters of Clinton or Obama support them based on theirs. I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that most of Clinton's and Obama's supporters are backing them due to their solid stances on issues, while Edwards's aren't?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:25 PM
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28. Yes. It's OUTRAGEOUS to remind your audience that you are a local guy.
Thank GOD Democrats never do that.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:19 PM
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26.  I used to live in New York, and I'm not offended.
Of course, Edwards will make a regional appeal when he's in the South. Big whoop.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:27 PM
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29. That does sound like a regional diss.
No worries. The freak show that is America will yield all kinds of interesting results in this election.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:29 PM
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30. I use to live in Illinois and I'm not offended, hell I agree with him!
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 02:33 PM
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31. remembering the democratic debate in Chicago where both Obama and Hillary
were making similar claims..
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:00 PM
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33. What a politician give a "shout out" to the crowd he is working?
Wow! Water is wet .... it gets dark @ night ..... snow is cold.

So a "Carolina Boy" is trying to appeal to people from S. Carolina
as he campaigns there? Of all the nerve! :rofl:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:09 PM
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35. NY now means the kind of politics that knocked out Mayor . . .
can't think of his name at the moment . . .
David Dinkins loss to Guiliana, especially --- lots of questions about that election.

And, Chicago .... Mayor John Daley -- 1968?
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:21 PM
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36. I don't have a problem with it but
he;s really not a"the grown up" anymore. That was cute but pushing it too hard.

He was great in debate but any of them could be if the other two were skirmishing.People know the top two rivals would bully each other

I know he wanted to push his advantage, of course. Maybe his campaign people were using it too much on camera.

Hope he does well today. I felt bad for him in November.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:22 PM
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37. LOL!! if one had been from another state, I"m sure he would have mentioned
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 04:27 PM by Gloria
that state as well....What he said was plain fact....nothing like the crap being dished by the other two...

PS..I'm from Jersey...the Hudson Cty. Dem machine is just like Chicago....
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:24 PM
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38. He's from Jesse Helms home state
and he has the stones to say this?

Kettle, meet pot.

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:27 PM
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39. I have been wondering about that...
if he makes it to the other states
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