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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:56 PM
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HILLARY CLINTON ATTACKS JOHN EDWARDS WITH ROBO CALLS
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 04:08 PM by Hope And Change
HILLARY CLINTON ATTACKS JOHN EDWARDS WITH ROBO CALLS


Transcript of Clinton CallVoice: Hello, This is the Hillary Clinton for President Campaign.
Before you vote on Saturday, you should know that John Edwards voted for permanent trade relations with China. That’s right, John Edwards voted for the bill that cost thousands of jobs. Like the ones in the textile mills he talks about so much down here.

You should also know that John Edwards made nearly a half a million dollars working for a Wall Street investment fund. A fund that’s been profiting on foreclosing on the homes of families; including 100 homes right here in South Carolina. That’s according to The State newspaper. Here in South Carolina, Edwards says he’s one of us, but up on Wall Street he was just another one of them.

Can you trust John Edwards? This call is paid for by the Hillary Clinton for President Campaign.

more...

http://thepage.time.com/2008/01/26/daughter-of-a-curtain-salesman-hits-son-of-a-millworker/
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:58 PM
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1. Is there a script to read?
I only saw comments at the link.

And note - This is so disgusting, and so clinton :(
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:59 PM
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3. There you go...
Transcript of Clinton CallVoice: Hello, This is the Hillary Clinton for President Campaign.
Before you vote on Saturday, you should know that John Edwards voted for permanent trade relations with China. That’s right, John Edwards voted for the bill that cost thousands of jobs. Like the ones in the textile mills he talks about so much down here.

You should also know that John Edwards made nearly a half a million dollars working for a Wall Street investment fund. A fund that’s been profiting on foreclosing on the homes of families; including 100 homes right here in South Carolina. That’s according to The State newspaper. Here in South Carolina, Edwards says he’s one of us, but up on Wall Street he was just another one of them.

Can you trust John Edwards? This call is paid for by the Hillary Clinton for President Campaign.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:09 PM
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15. What about Clinton's Chinese links:
White House Had Ended System of Checking Foreign Guests

By TIM WEINER
Published: February 3, 1997

Ten years ago the Reagan White House adopted a rule about foreign businessmen, lobbyists and consultants who wanted to get in to see the President without the blessing of their embassies: they shouldn't.

But President Clinton's aides did not follow that rule. In their eagerness to raise campaign money, they invited friends of the President's fund-raisers -- including China's biggest arms merchant, favor-seeking Indonesian businessmen, a reputed Russian mobster and other dubiously credentialed dealmakers -- to meet with Mr. Clinton. Nor did the White House check the suitability of Americans invited by the Democratic National Committee to meet the President, allowing, among others, a twice-convicted felon to sip coffee with Mr. Clinton.

-snip

And that is why nobody on the White House political team saw fit to ask the National Security Council staff a year ago about a man named Wang Jun, who showed up on a guest list for a White House coffee with the President. The question of exactly how Mr. Wang got into the White House has a simple answer: ''Nobody ever asked anybody,'' a National Security Council official said.

So, at the behest of a tireless political fund-raiser from Arkansas, Charlie Yah Lin Trie, Mr. Clinton wound up sipping coffee with Mr. Wang, who runs the Chinese Government's weapons manufacturing and procuring agency, which is involved in secret arms deals around the world. These coffees for fund-raisers and donors began as a way to raise morale among party loyalists after the Democrats' disastrous showing in the 1994 election. By 1995, they became a way to reward big donors and prospect for new ones, according to Democratic fund-raisers.

-snip

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E2DC103DF930A35751C0A961958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all


A federal grand jury has indicted 14 people and a Georgia company in a scheme to smuggle several million dollars worth of automatic weapons into the United States from China. The indictment came after federal agents smashed an arms smuggling ring that they said involved two government-run Chinese munitions firms. The following press release and affidavit outline the building of the government's case.

U.S. Department of Justice

United States Attorney
Northern District of California

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

MAY 23, 1996

MASSIVE SEIZURE OF NEW AUTOMATIC WEAPONS
ILLEGALLY SMUGGLED BY PRC WEAPONS PRODUCERS

SAN FRANCISCO - Michael J. Yamaguchi, United States Attorney
for the Northern District of California; Rollin B. Klink, Special
Agent in Charge, United States Customs Service, San Francisco; and
Paul Snabel, Special Agent in Charge, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
and Firearms, announced today the largest seizure of fully
operational automatic weapons in the history of U. S. law
enforcement. The weapons were illegally smuggled into the United
States from the People's Republic of China (PRC) during the course
of a federal investigation of an alleged arms trafficking conspiracy
involving Chinese nationals, Chinese resident aliens, and U. S.
citizens, a number of whom represented PRC owned and controlled
munitions manufacturing facilities. The illegal importation of the
weapons into the United States is in violation of the Presidential
Embargo on the importation of weapons and munitions designated on
the United States Munitions List, and U. S. law regarding the
importation, possession, and sale of illegal weapons.

On March 18, 1996, agents of the United States Customs Service
and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms seized 2000 AK-47
type fully automatic 7.62mm machine guns. These are military
assault weapons commonly used by the military around the world.
The weapons, which had both Chinese (Norinco) and Korean
markings, had been smuggled into the United States in a container on
board the COSCO ship, Empress Phoenix. Included with the
weapons were approximately 4000 30-40 round ammunition
magazines. It is estimated that the weapons had a street value of more
than four million dollars.

The seizure of the weapons was the culmination of a sixteen month
investigation of high ranking officials, based in both the United
States and the PRC, of POLYTECH and NORINCO, PRC
controlled munitions manufacturing corporations. Hammond KU,
age 49, a Taiwanese resident alien, residing in Soquel, California,
first came under suspicion when information was developed that he
had several thousand Chinese manufactured weapons, in crate.
labelled POLYTECH and NORINCO, stored in his warehouse in
Soquel, California. KU paid federal agent-, acting in an undercover
capacity, to illegally import into the United States, more than 20,000
AK 47 rifle bipods.

-snip
http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/misc/smuggle.html


New York Times, May 17, 1998



How Chinese Won Rights to Launch Satellites for U.S.

(BY JEFF GERTH AND DAVID E. SANGER)
On Oct. 9, 1995, Secretary of State Warren Christopher ended a lengthy debate within the Clinton Administration by initialing a classified order that preserved the State Department's sharp limits on China's ability to launch American-made satellites aboard Chinese rockets.

Both American industry and state-owned Chinese companies had been lobbying for years to get the satellites off what is known as the `munitions list,' the inventory of America's most sensitive military and intelligence-gathering technology. But Mr. Christopher sided with the Defense Department, the intelligence agencies and some of his own advisers, who noted that commercial satellites held technological secrets that could jeopardize `significant military and intelligence interests.'

There was one more reason not to ease the controls, they wrote in a classified memorandum. Doing so would `raise suspicions that we are trying to evade China sanctions' imposed when the country was caught shipping weapons technology abroad--which is what happened in 1991 and 1993 for missile sales to Pakistan.

-snip

Other powerful Chinese state enterprises also had multibillion-dollar stakes in getting access to American satellites. Among them was the China International Trade and Investment Corporation, whose chairman, Wang Jun, gained unwanted attention in the United States last year when it was revealed that he attended one of Mr. Clinton's campaign coffee meetings in the White House. The day of Mr. Wang's visit, Mr. Clinton, in what Mr. Rubin said was a coincidence, signed waivers allowing the Chinese to launch four American satellites--though they were unrelated to the business interests of China International Trade.

-snip

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/china/1998/h980618-prc5.htm
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:18 PM
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29. And when it is demonstrated that this tape is a fake ..then what?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:27 PM
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43. It's not fake
Clinton camp statement:

Clinton team response from spokesman Elleithee: “John Edwards has been running negative TV ads against Senator Clinton for weeks. It was important to correct the record.”


Same link as in the OP.
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MediaBabe Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:42 PM
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51. John Edwards is not ashamed of his record.
What's disgusting about it? I mean, it's just a normal call. Sure it's one sided but if it's the truth I am POSITIVE that John Edwards is not ashamed of his record.

Do you think he should be hiding what his positions have been? Do you think he'd want you to hide them? Give him a break.

It doesn't help Edwards a bit to say we don't want to talk about the work he's done.
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forsberg Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:59 PM
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2. Somebody call the Whambulance
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:00 PM
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6. Did you even click on the link?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:18 PM
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30. what kink of a link is it?-
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:01 PM
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7. Is that the standard response you have for people who dislike negative campaign tactics and want...
a higher level of discourse? Because its not much of an arguement.
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forsberg Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:15 PM
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24. get real
Idealists like you make me laugh

Evry candidate will do all that it takes to win. Those that don't are losers
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:25 PM
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42. so better to engage in gutter politics and win then have a higher level of debate...
and lose? Boy, i really do hope whoever wins changes the direction the system is going. Because right now its just sad.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:00 PM
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4. She'll do anything to get elected...
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:00 PM
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5. ...
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 04:00 PM by Magic Rat

I sense a loss approaching. Does not compute!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:01 PM
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8. You should change your title
to Hillary robo calls attack Edwards on personal wealth, record.

And this shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:03 PM
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10. I agree. Change the title so people know it's against Edwards.
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:04 PM
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11. maybe edwards should feel good...
that hillary views him as such a potential threat that she has to resort to gutter politics.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:13 PM
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21. Hillary Must Be Polling A Third Place Finish In SC - So To Try And Twart That.......
she's attacking Edwards.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:22 PM
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37. ...
:evilgrin:
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:06 PM
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12. Done!
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:02 PM
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9. More Rovian tactics
by the scumbags for president campaign-Hillary is THE one to put another republican in the white house for the next 4-8 years. It'll be YOUR fault Clinton supporters, and we don't want to hear your complaining here if it happens
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:08 PM
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14. Crying wolf
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 04:08 PM by Jai4WKC08
How is it Rovian? All the allegations are true.

It's a negative ad. So what? Obama ran negative ads in Nevada. If he's not running negative ads in SC (and I wouldn't bet the farm we won't hear of some later), it's because he's way ahead.

Grow up, people. All politicians use negative ads because negative ads work. If you don't like that, blame it on the voters.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:21 PM
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36. I agree with you ... smells like Rove and his mentor, Lee Atwater.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:07 PM
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13. Obviously, 3rd place is not acceptable to Billary
Hopefully, that's where they land.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:12 PM
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20. Wouldn't be the first time.
Iowa.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:17 PM
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28. Iowa and SC...What nice bookends they would make
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:10 PM
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16. Since when did the truth become disgusting and an attack?
There's lots of things every candidate has done that should be held up to inspection...it's not like she implied he had a black child from an illict affair like Bush did to mcCain.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:10 PM
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17. No different than Karl Rove tactics. nm
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:11 PM
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18. I'm surprised she put her name on it.
And didn't get a surrogate to do an anonymous hit job.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:16 PM
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26. This plus
wanting to scoop up the illegal, unearned Michigan delegates is more than tough politics. it is unfair, despicable, spitting on the tattered remnants of democracy and based on blatant lies.

The biggest lie being that her candidacy is an asset instead of a dangerous drag in November. The whole damned pretense is turning into an ever fatter lie.

And there will be NO MSM machine to back it up or ignore and no fraud to boost it. This jumping the shark is really crossing the last line to win at the expense of every decent human being and cause on the planet. Why? DINO.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:30 PM
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45. I knew when Edwards got close then she'd put a job on him.
I'm sorry Edwards people.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:12 PM
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19. Is anyone surprised? nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:14 PM
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22. I'm guessing JE regrets his granting the Rovian Queen an audience on debate night now...
She cannot be trusted and her desperation is showing badly.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. There was no clandestine meeting on debate night.
Trust me on this. It wasn't what you think.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:18 PM
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31. Somehow I believe you.. thanks for responding :-)
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:29 PM
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44. I think you can on this one.
I wasn't there but I have some sources who are pretty involved in the campaign. I heard it was nothing and that if there ever was a meeting, which I doubt there ever will be, it certainly wouldn't be held after a debate in the same venue with press crawling all around.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:15 PM
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23. The Clintons have no decency and no shame.
If there is any justice in the world, Hillary Clinton will not be our nominee.

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:16 PM
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25. Is Rove working for her?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:20 PM
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34. Not for Hillary, against her. Rove is working right here, right in this forum, right in this thread
He's all around this place and everyone knows it but nothing is done about it. Maybe nothing CAN be done about it. Things at DU couldn't have worked out better for him.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. Your honesty is refreshing
if unintentional.
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jkurri Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #34
47. sorry dude...
your an idiot for saying that. Clinton is the closest thing to Rove the dems have... Rove doesn't have time to waste here on people like you who are too dumb to see the best person to loose to republicans are copying his tactics. Her campaign is doing his work for him... you are crazy to think republicans are scared of the Clintons... they are scared of NOT having any reason(s) for their voters coming out in the general. The Clintons give them 2 great reasons.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. You are fucking sorry
and a fucking idiot yourself. Get the fuck lost ya little freeper asshole twit.
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jkurri Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #52
55. Wow
there's an intelligent come back... truth hurts, huh?
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:18 PM
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32. This one seems like a straightforward "contrast" ad...with her campaign out in front about who
it is from.

I am no Hillary fan, and while I hate stuff like this, it is relatively tame by the standards of this primary.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #32
46. I agree
There is nothing untrue in the ad. That's where I draw the line. Contrast ads are common in campaigns. And better out front than from behind.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:18 PM
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33. She's despicable.
And I guarantee that if she wins the nomination, her supporters will scream the loudest when her opponent uses these tactics against her. I've got my :nopity: tuned and ready to go! They can't have it both ways. They can't say it's okay when she pulls this shit on Obama and Edwards, but whine when it's done to her.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:21 PM
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35. Negative campaigning is not unethical,
if it's true.

(I neither know whether it's true nor whether it's really being paid for by Clinton.)
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:23 PM
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38. Nothing wrong with that call
Its true and it contradicts claims Edwards raised himself. Edwards has sunk to the lowest of the low while campaigning. He is not fit to point fingers over anything, especially not these calls which are gentle in comparison to the things Edwards has said.
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jkurri Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:24 PM
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40. Hope
I hope John does well in SC, I think he needs to be able to look Clinton in the eyes on the next debate and show what kind of person she is. This is not about a campaign, it show how nasty SHE is. Why would you waste time on a recorded call to talk about someone else? She has NOTHING to offer us as president thats why. Please SC be smarter then they give you credit for.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:24 PM
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41. Daughter of a Curtain Salesman Attacks Son of a Millworker
Funny title.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:32 PM
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48. Well then THAT CAPS IT...
..even if she IS the nominee - now that she's done this I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT VOTE FOR HER.


PERIOD.


First, I said I'd support whoever the nom is (though I like Edwards)

THEN we got the goddamned Hillary, Obama shit-flinging follies and I got fed up and said it's likely I'd just write in Edwards in the GE UNLESS my state is in play, and if it was -- then I'd get behind the nominee.

NOW she pulls THIS?

That CAPS IT!

I ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY WILL NOT - EVER - VOTE FOR THAT WOMEN

PERIOD.



I'm through with even considering it - under ANY circumstance.

WHY BOTHER - if the choice is between her and another Republican - well, that isn't a choice. It's six of one and a half dozen another. Forget it.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:33 PM
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49. I guess that is what he means by chicago and ny style politics in SC...in other post n/t
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:34 PM
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50. Shameful. Notice who is running the cleanest campaign?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:55 PM
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53. A new low for the NY corporate gorgon.
A lifelong creature of corporate power, Hillary's hardly one to talk about being "one of us."
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:58 PM
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54. No more Clintons, No more Bushes. No more taking it in our tushes!!
Go, Johnny, GO!!!
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