BREAKING: Hillary Clinton To Vote “No” On Cloture Tomorrow

[kpete]

BREAKING: Hillary Clinton To Vote “No” On Cloture Tomorrow
By: Jane Hamsher Sunday January 27, 2008 7:12 pm

Hillary Clinton will be in the Senate tomorrow to vote "no" on cloture on the Intel bill. The vote is scheduled to take place at 4:30 pm tomorrow.

I've also been trying to confirm whether Barack Obama will be there. His campaign people have not gotten back to me, but Obama does have a 4pm fundraiser scheduled in Washington DC.

Bravo, Senator Clinton. Well done.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/27/breaking-hillary-clinton-to-vote-no-on-cloture-tomorrow/

[Proud2BAmurkin]

1. Will Obama follow the leader

[rodeodance]

5. we shall see

[JackRiddler]

83. Yeah - think about it - why is this news?

No on cloture is self-evidently what anyone who was really a liberal or a Democrat (in the ideal sense) would do.

So why is it "breaking news" when Clinton votes the Democratic way on a historic question? Could it be related to how she voted on almost every other historic occasion - USA PATRIOT, IWR, funding the Iraq war again after the 2006 election...

[Kittycat]

8. Follow the leader?

You're kidding right? He's scheduled to be in Washington tomorrow. Because he hasn't announced his vote, you somehow think that he either had no intention, or was waiting to see what HRC was going to do? Give me a break, you're grasping at straws now.

[joshcryer]

10. He might be there just to vote "present."

ZING. :evilgrin:

[Kittycat]

17. Again with no understanding of IL Politics.

So sad :(

[Proud2BAmurkin]

25. and the "bungled" votes?

:shrug:

[Kittycat]

36. At least he admitted his mistake. What's HRCs excuse for the war vote?

[rodeodance]

50. Forgiveness is a virtue---and much better for overall heatlh than pent up bitterness

[1corona4u]

43. Can you prove to us that it's 'Illinois politics'?

I mean, with factual commentary to that effect? Links?

[boston bean]

19. He's running to be Mr. Presentdent.

:evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

29. naughty

[rpannier]

30. That's funny

Not because it's Obama.

It'd be funny no matter who the Senator was.

[1corona4u]

LOL...

[thoughtcrime1984]

27. state your candidate

it must be hillary.

[joshcryer]

64. How can it be when I'm not voting in the primary?

Stop stalking me.

[thoughtcrime1984]

86. Not stalking, just trying to figure out your angle nt

[TankLV]

33. Ha - good one...

it would be funny if it weren't so true - and sad...

[jefferson_dem]

81. Maybe Bill will cast Hillary's vote by proxy.

Can she handle it all by herself?

[rodeodance]

42. yeah--Here is how its played.: Clinton annouces she will be there and Obama says 'me too"

[Kittycat]

44. He was already scheduled to be there. That wasn't a secret.

Where have you been?

[1corona4u]

48. Can you post his schedule, where it says he will be there?

Thanks.

[Kittycat]

55. Do I look like his secretary?

He's going to be in Washington Tomorrow. That's common knowledge. Why wouldn't he vote?

[Marie26]

59. Fundraiser at 4:00

Vote at 4:30. He'd have to leave the fund-raiser early in order to vote - so it's not a given that he'll be there. Though I certainly hope he is!

[1corona4u]

79. You stated it as a fact, I asked you to back up your statement.

That's usually the way it's done around here, when someone states something as a fact. They post the references to back it up.

Obviously you have no proof that he will be there. I suspect he will though. He can't afford to make a colossal mistake right now.

[rodeodance]

56. see the IP--says trying to reach him

[rodeodance]

58. I think there would be a zillion threads if DU knew it (it is a secret so it seems)

[Andy823]

20. He usually does

Doesn't he?

[rodeodance]

24. yes, "He usually does" FOLLOW the Leader.

[still_one]

49. and what was John Edwards reason for voting for the IWR, was it follow the leader?

[still_one]

47. Pretty juvenile remark. I guess it showed leadership to vote for the IWR also?

That last statement is what you call a diversion, just like your statement, "follow the leader"

Both have no bearing on this issue

If Obama votes the wrong way, then any criticism is justified

Otherwise, it is just B.S.

[rodeodance]

65. And the IWR has no bearing on Hill showing up tomorrow.

[still_one]

70. absolutely correct, and if you read my post, THAT WAS MY POINT

throwing all kinds of nonesense, and setting up a straw dog is not good for anything except building disunity

and the more and more that this petty crap keeps up, we will lose 2008 no matter WHO the nominee is because of the this petty diversionary tactics

Talk issues is good, inuendos and personal attacks bad

[rodeodance]

74. then please stop referring to the IWR since you say it has no bearing.

[still_one]

75. and you I assume your "follow the leader" remarks will cease also?

[rodeodance]

77. since ftl has NOTHING to do with IWR---it makes no sense to cease.

[still_one]

78. and it is because of the lack of compromise among Democrats why the odds are against us

in 2008

I suspect the repukes will choose mccain, who will choose thomposon as his vp

I suspect that the Democratic candidate's followers will continue to snipe at each other, and cause a lot of bad feelings

and if that continues, I suspect that the executive branch will not be controlled by a Democrat in 2008

Keep up the good work, see how many people you can turn off to your candidate

[DS1]

2. -1

So, Obama doesn't respond to "firedoglake" therefore he's suspected as either not voting, or voting for it.

Nice.

[rodeodance]

3. Bravo, Senator Clinton. Well done.

[gateley]

4. I applaud Clinton for being there for the vote.

If Obama doesn't, especially since he'll be IN Washington, I'd be terribly disappointed.

I think it would do both their campaigns good, and the coverage would bring what's happening to the attention of more of the public.

EDIT to add - it would probably be a welcome change of pace for the both of them!

[rodeodance]

9. oh, obama will stop in .

[CorpGovActivist]

13. Yup, Have to Give Credit Where It's Due on This One n/t

[babylonsister]

57. Hell, if Obama doesn't show up I will be disappointed also.

This is important. Plus, I imagine he might show up for the SOTU, or not. :shrug:

[NJSecularist]

6. Good job Hillary. Where's Obama?

Edwards is joining in on the call to do this (even though he isn't a senator). Where will Obama be? It would say alot about him if he didn't show up tommorow.

[gateley]

18. Edwards can't "join in".

None of the candidates were there last time except Dodd. I hope they all got an earful from their supporters and will make damn sure to be there tomorrow. We know Clinton will be, and I'd be surprised if O doesn't show.

[donheld]

82. Read that again sweety he's joining a call to vote not on the actual call.

It's the best he can do.

[ErnestoG]

7. The Clinton Smarm Machine is well at work

Oh that awfull Obama. Let's imagine the WORST, and pin it on him before knowing the facts!

[rodeodance]

11. Ain't it a BEAUTIFUL SITE!!

[rodeodance]

15. NO BODY is pinning anything on Obama--We are praising Clinton for LEADING.

[rodeodance]

16. COME join us

[ErnestoG]

63. Join the Just Say No To Hillary movement?

I'm on board!

[rodeodance]

67. no no no--You got on the wrong train. This is CONGRATULATIONS HILL train.

[ErnestoG]

89. Congratulations for doing what's expected of them?

Wow, I wish that were in sway when I was still at home and doing my homework.

[thoughtcrime1984]

32. Typical BS from typical types

So many ignores in this thread...

[ErnestoG]

45. Brace yourself. It will get alot worse.

There are many who angrily feel Hillary Clinton is entitled. Just the way they felt about John Kerry. And look where that got us.

[rodeodance]

46. Typical Sour Grapes Whin!!

[ErnestoG]

51. You mean "win"? Like Hillary DIDN'T in SC?

[rpannier]

52. Smarm or not

It puts the onus on him to respond.

I have no problem with it.

I am always happy when our Senators do the right thing regardless of their motivations.

[still_one]

53. This is setting up a classic straw man argument. /nt

[robbedvoter]

12. Glad it broke - again

:+
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4228560&mesg_id=4228560

[IndyOp]

14. It would be really, really dumb of the Dems to hand Bush a victory just before the

State of the Union address. They'd better be ready with a reply to the State address that details everything they've accomplished -- because Bush will hit them with "do nothing" Congress accusation if they deny him the Intel bill.

:(

[gateley]

23. The Dems have been more than cooperative and the R's haven't given an inch.

Dodd will be ready to filibuster and I'd love to see the candidates go beyond "supporting" a filibuster and actually get up and help him like Boxer and others did last time.

[rodeodance]

54. Unity is too much overplayed

[Seabiscuit]

21. Excellent. Good for Senator Clinton. nt

[Beaverhausen]

22. Someone posted in another thread that Obama will vote 'no' as well

can't find it now, but good on both of them. We need to win this one.

[rodeodance]

26. good.

[still_one]

60. It is good when people do the right thing

These threads can get pretty self-destructive

I am quite glad that Edwards is in this all the way

It might very will might be undecided by the time we get to the convention

[OzarkDem]

28. See, now, that didn't hurt a bit

Senate Dems are such cowards.

[AndyA]

31. Well thank goodness!

I'm glad to see that Hillary still understands there's important business that needs to be taken care of.

I appreciate her announcement, and her no vote on cloture.

[iris5426]

34. Good for Hillary :-)

[davidwparker]

35. Good for her. Now to that NAFTA-signing Clinton, SHUTUP!

[rodeodance]

37. REC

[AX10]

38. Thank you Hillary!

:bounce:

[Zorra]

39. Senator Clinton may seriously alarm her more conservative supporters

if she is elected Prez.

I intuit that she, um, "strongly dislikes" republicans as much as I do.

[goodgd_yall]

95. Does she have conservative supporters?

I thought they leaned toward Obama.

[AX10]

40. Obama's vote right here:

PRESENT!

[creeksneakers2]

41. Great! Hillary will bring national media attention to

the horrible FISA bill too. This would be even better if she helped filibuster. Obama should jump on this too.

[tammywammy]

61. UPDATED STORY

Hillary Clinton will be in the Senate tomorrow to vote "no" on cloture on the Intel version of the FISA bill. The vote is scheduled to take place at 4:30 pm tomorrow.

I've also been trying to confirm whether Barack Obama will be there. His campaign people have not gotten back to me, but Obama does have a 4pm fundraiser scheduled in Washington DC.

Bravo, Senator Clinton. Well done.

UPDATE: The Obama campaign confirms that Senator Obama will be there too, and voting "no." Way to go, Senator.

Looks like we're gonna have quite a CSPAN liveblog party tomorrow.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/27/breaking-hillary-clinton-to-vote-no-on-cloture-tomorrow/

[Tom Rinaldo]

66. Good for both of them. Excellent in fact n/t

[rodeodance]

72. YUP--Obama followed Leader Clinton--he will be present also. BRAVO to both.

UPDATE: The Obama campaign confirms that Senator Obama will be there too, and voting "no." Way to go, Senator.

[tammywammy]

73. How is that following the leader?

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

76. Clinton Lead with her Annoucement--then Obama followed- (lead -follow--got it)

[Ammonium]

85. Are you quite finished?

When you're done droning on about your shitty candidate you might take notice that this is more important than Hillary fucking Clinton. This is about us. You, me, and everyone else in America who was illegally spied on. Now stfu. k? thnx.

[rodeodance]

87. Stop with YOUR LECTURing. I do know the importance.

[Ammonium]

90. Then do us all a favor

And stop with your "he's following her" bullshit parade.

Thank god they've both decided to do the right thing this time around.

Where was Mrs. Clinton back when Dodd was filibustering back in December? Oh, she was too busy to be concerned with my constitutional rights being destroyed.

[rodeodance]

He did follow her today. simple as that.

[Ammonium]

96. How old are you?

Like 12?

[Jennifer C]

93. Well said. nt

[rodeodance]

92. Clinton announces she will vote, then Obams follows and says he will vote also.

Got it now?

[Marie26]

62. Good.

Does anyone know if they have the 60 required votes?

[Captain Hilts]

68. Of the senate candidates, she's missed the fewest votes. nt

[rodeodance]

80. yes, She is known as a hard worker in the Senate also.

[Beacool]

69. Great for Hillary!!!!!!!!!

As for Obama, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and wait to see if he votes tomorrow. Almost all of Congress will be in town for the State of the Union speech.

[tammywammy]

71. Per the story

The Obama campaign said he'll be there and voting no.

[gateley]

84. Good to hear. I applaud them both. nt

[Auntie Bush]

88. thanks kpete... that's such good news.. She obviously cares about the direction of our country

and is still loyal to her duties as a senator. Way to go Hill!

[Blue_In_AK]

91. I'm glad to hear that. n/t

[NastyRiffraff]

94. Good for BOTH of them

Geez, wading into the Clinton/Obama supporters brawl is dangerous. See y'all, and kudos to your candidates for showing some leadership.

[robbedvoter]

97. Needs kicking as some don't know yet

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4249674&mesg_id=4249674