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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:22 PM
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My Advice To John And Hillary
If it comes down to a Brokered Convention I would be just as happy if Hillary were to assign her delegates to John if he would agree to accept her as his VP running mate. I know I'm probably going to be slammed by my fellow Clinton supporters but I think either way it's a win-win situation because I think the two of them are much more in touch with all facets of america. I should call Hillary's campaign headquarters in Arlington and make the suggestions. :)
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:24 PM
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1. Slammed? No.
It's the other guys who do that.

:evilgrin:

I don't think it's a viable idea, but stranger things have happened.

--p!
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:59 PM
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20. Edwards is very Independent
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:00 PM by neutron
and doesn't seem cut out to be a running mate. He is an "in charge" guy.
According to Kerry, he refused to be the Hit Man, which is standard
for VP - so the presidential candidate can appear presidential.
Edwards insisted it would be damaging to go negative. There was
other stuff. Kerry felt like Edwards was campaigning for himself, and did
Kerry in in order to run again. Who knows. But a candidate would probably
be a little wary to go into partnership with him.
But Edwards does have talent, and maybe an Attorny General position or
something would be good.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:11 PM
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21. Wow, Kerry threw Edwards under the bus
That said, Edwards as president would have a good ring with Hillary as VP, in my opinion. :)
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pauldg0 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:25 PM
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28. Here is the truth.................
Kerry did not want Edwards as his running mate in the last election.

Kennedy and his cronnies pushed Kerry to nominate John Edwards. Then when John Edwards wanted to challenge the voting scam in Ohio and Kerry did not, they had a falling out when Kerry wanted to concede. Remember, John Edwards will fight for what is right.

Since Kennedy works with Kerry closely in Massachusets, he's got to stick with his buddy that he's with much of the time.

Kerry ran a very poor campaign in that election, and lost. So who does he blame, of course, Edwards.

In my opionion, both Kerry and Kennedy are bad for the Democratic party. Two chickenshits who allowed George Bush to scoop up a victory. NOW LOOK AT THE MESS WE ARE IN...DO WE WANT MORE OF THIS?

Could it be that both of them are Corporate republicans too, just like most people in Washington. John Edwards wants to save this country. Any other candidate will make it worse.

Support John Edwards to the end.
Our Country is hanging by a string!!!!!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:27 PM
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2. Interesting idea
But, I don't think she'd ever accept the VP slot.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:28 PM
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3. No slam here. If John and Hillary can arrange something (whatever it is) I support it.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:32 PM
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7. Clap Clap Clap
I'm glad you agree. I really like Edwards almost as much as Hillary and so it's a win-win for me. Plus, I could see his cutie patuttie face on my telly all the time. :)
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:28 PM
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4. An Edwards punchline! >>>>>>>>>>!
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:29 PM
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5. I am an edwards supporter
but i would rather see obama in the wh rather then hill. But if it meant edwards was pres I would go for it. But it will not matter. Hillary is the corporate candidate, hillary will win.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:38 PM
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11. No, she won't. She may get the nomination, but she'll not win.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:30 PM
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6. So much for Edwards' anti-lobbyist stance if that happens. But I
suppose one has to make compromises.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:34 PM
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8. Johnny Boy As President
He would call the shots on the lobbyists, not Hillary.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:38 PM
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12. I suppose, too
;)

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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:35 PM
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9. I see her as a weightier candidate so don't think that ticket would work
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:40 PM
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14. If John wanted to be president
What else does he have to lose? Be the president with Hillary as his VP or never be president. Either way, the three of them can defeat any republican.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:23 PM
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27. Right! He hasn't done it successfully as yet and probably never will unless he becomes Hillary's
VP or accepts some appointment in her cabinet.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:37 PM
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10. "much more in touch with all facets of america"
Really? Care to elaborate?
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:43 PM
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16. I'd like to elaborate
I think, rather in my opinion, Hillary is more in touch with the GLBT's then Barack.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:40 PM
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13. I think that is a great idea myself
Don't really think Hillary would go for it, but I would! :toast:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:42 PM
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15. I think they already decided to do that.
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 10:42 PM by Major Hogwash
In their 20 minute meeting after last Monday's debate in South Carolina.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:46 PM
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17. Hmmm. So now lobbyists are A-OK? nt
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:49 PM
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18. Why would you say lobbyists are ok.
Edwards would be calling the shots, not Hillary so I'm not following your train of thought with your post?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:51 PM
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19. You're living in dreamland, my friend. nt
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:39 PM
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34. Yes, after he kind of defender her in a couple of debates.
I think it would be the tail wagging the dog if he were President and she were his VP. The reverse is perfectly fitting. I used to want her to give the VP slot to Obama...so we could unite our party and nation. But the rancor has gotten to hot for either of them to get into the oven together. Besides... I think the party will unite itself after the primary. Where else can the losing party go... except maybe stay home and I don't see many loyal patriotic Dems doing that! Only those who are unforgiving and not understanding of politics would ever not vote at all. That's cutting one's nose off to spite their face, our country and the Supreme Court.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:15 PM
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22. Sorry, I can't see how Edwards would ever be able to
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:15 PM by sjdnb
execute his populist policies with Hillary and an ex-President hovering around, always telling him how he was committing political suicide.

Carter was the first President to try to bring about REAL change in Washington. He may not have accomplished as much as he would have liked, but he opened the door.

Now, while JE will most likely be greeted by the same, if not more level of resistance, he can move us further down the path. And, someday, the 'iron curtain' of beltway politics, corporate control/handouts, and abuse of power will end.

You didn't expect it to happen in a couple of terms, did you? These folks are powerful and fighting to save the status quo (aka millions, if not billions, in their collective pockets). They won't go down easy.

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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:21 PM
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26. I'm sorry you feel that way
But I believe Edwards can be very Presidential and I hate to hear you have such a low opinion of the Clinton's. I on the other hand have the utmost respect for all three candidates even though I lean toward Hillary.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:27 PM
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31. It's not a 'low' opinion ... they are just caught up in the beltway
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:27 PM by sjdnb
way of doing things ... at this point in time - like ALL of their peers. And, can you really imagine Bill Clinton playing third fiddle to Edwards and Hillary?

I think Bill has been put in a lose, lose position, no fault of his own. And, he's having difficulty with it.

But, when you've been the President and done some amazing things (and, yes, I think, given the time in history he served, he did an amazing job) - it would be very hard to be put in that position.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:16 PM
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23. Or how about Edwards accepting Hillary's off to be VP?
He would almost automatically get the presidency in 8 years as an incombant...where Hillary would be too old 8 years from now and would leave the presidency open...again. I hate these primaries. They don't do our party any good...neither does DU! Dammit!
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:18 PM
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24. I don't think anyone will want Hillary as V-P.
She is just too strong and knows where the levers are.

It will take anyone other than Hillary a year to figure out how the W.H. works and no one will risk her being smarter than the boss.

I was thinking recently that if Obama wins he will have no choice but to use former Clinton people to help him get started. I assume that Rahm Emanuel will head his transition team, maybe he will even become his Chief of Staff.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:27 PM
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30. I disagree because
I doubt Edwards would turn down the chance to be president. Since I believe any of the 3 candidates can defeat any republican I think he'd go for it unless he'd rather pass up the presidency.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:34 PM
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33. You do know that Edwards has already approached both
Obama and Clinton to make a deal don't you? In other words, he is already offering to remove himself if he gets what he wants.

Obama and Clinton are in the driver's seat - John is just riding shotgun. Why would Clinton offer to give him the driver's seat. Makes no sense at all whatsoever.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:50 PM
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36. Reason Being
Edwards would be VP with Barack but would be President with Hillary.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:20 PM
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25. Let's just hope it will not come to that. It is the surest way to lose the election,
Those here who do not think that prolonged attacks will make it difficult for Democrats to rally around a candidate that late in the game are just fools or hope for Democrats to lose.

It is one thing to say that people should not ask Edwards to withdraw that early. It is another to wish for a brokered Convention. Except for those of you who do not think that 4 years of Romney or McCain president would be hell.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:26 PM
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29. There is no way to lose the election
The republicans are basket cases running as Bush clones to stay in Iraq for 1000 years. The republicans do not have a chance this time out. The democratic candidates are all strong this year.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:33 PM
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32. Hillary isn't going to accept a VP slot.....
with anybody. Come on, now.

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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:46 PM
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35. No Hillary on the ticket in any capacity
The Bush-Clinton dynasty ends here.
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