is Obama the Howard Dean of 2008

[cloud75]

gives great speaches, attract young people, is the washington outsider and then peaks too early and loses the nomination.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Uh, Dean didn't win Iowa and was pretty much done the second he lost that state.

[NastyRiffraff]

2. Nowhere even close to Howard Dean.

Although the end result may happen...who knows? (I know: HERESY!!!!)

[TwilightGardener]

3. I think he's peaking at just the right time--so, no.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. Obama hasn't peaked yet

he's climbing

[ErnestoG]

5. Judging from the vitriol of the DLC Clintonites against him....

I'd say the basic point is sound.

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. Hard to say. He's putting up quite a fight, he is.

[murielm99]

7. Not the same.

I think he will lose the nomination.

But I think a few more years in the Senate, and possibly a governorship could be the best thing to happen for him. I have said from the beginning that he needed to do that before he sought the Presidency.

He is young. He can learn from this. And if he does lose the nomination, he can come back stronger than ever in a few years.

I don't plan to vote for him in the primary. I will support him if he wins the nomination, and work hard for him. But I would be more enthusiastic about an Obama Presidency a few years down the road.

[glowing]

10. You are right.. he needs to find his own voice in politics.. Too many

advisors spinning the wheel on him.. At the end of the day, he is not prepared to take on a recession, a horribly mis-managed war, and the criminal elements that he will face when and if he takes over.

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Well who the fuck is? Not Hillary.

Edwards? The problem with Edwards is...uh...Edwards, ya see can't...well...Edwards is just...

OK. Edwards owns a big house. That's all I got.

GO EDWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Historic NY]

11. Some people said that about Jack Kennedy too and........

Teddy Roosevelt.

[Endangered Specie]

8. As an original Deaniac, when he was polling 3%, the answer is NO

[lligrd]

12. I Was One Too

Am constantly amazed that even many Dems on DU make fun of Dean to this day despite the fact that they contributed to his downfall. It seems that they forget that the result was 4 more years of *.

[opihimoimoi]

9. Rove et al has outfoxed themselves?? Obama won't be so easy to beat in the Gen?

I for one will donate monies to him should he win the nom....

Its a MUST that a DEM wins in NOV.....

The GOP will not stand for a loss without a fierce fight/effort ....using whatever it takes....

[Tweed]

13. Obama has won three states and tied one

So no, if anything Clinton is Dean finishing third in Iowa after being the one-time inevitable candidate.

[book_worm]

14. You should educate yourself on the 2004 election before posting that

Dean (who I supported in '04) didn't win Iowa, South Carolina and came nowhere near as close as Obama did in New Hampshire. I think he may have already been out of the race by the time of Nevada. The only primary Dean won was his homestate of Vermont after he left the race.

[lurky]

15. I was a huge Dean fan,

but I don't think he was nearly as smooth as Obama, for better or for worse. I loved him because he was a brawler and he didn't make nice or apologize for his beliefs, but a lot of people I know found his style abrasive. I also get the sense that he made a lot of enemies along the way (like the Clintons).

I feel like Obama is much more polished and diplomatic, also for better or for worse. Based on how well he's done so far against the HRC, he's shown himself to be a master politician, even if he doesn't win it. I think this is the same quality that makes a lot of people distrust him, though.