Andrea Mitchell still on Bill's "fairytale" comment

[journalist3072]

Could Andrea Mitchell be any more digusting?

Listening to the Today show, she was reporting on Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Obama, and she said "Kennedy is said to be appauled by the attacks on Obama, particularly by Bill Clinton." Then she goes "like this" and then plays the clip of President Clinton's fairytale comment about Obama's Iraq war stance.

Problem is, of course she only plays the "This whole thing is the biggest fairytale. Give me a break" and doesn't play what he was saying prior to that about Obama and Iraq.

This is exactly why Obama is being viewed as the can't-do-wrong, can't-hold-him-accountable golden boy.

It's really pathetic.

[robbedvoter]

1. Hard to let of the myths, ain't it? After Scarborough apologized for the "no concession"

lie - NBC nightly news ran with it half an hour later.
"Gore invented the internet" - on steroids. At least they didn't jump on Gore like this right from the primary.

[neutron]

24. Dan Abrams exposed that as BS WEEKS AGO !

I can't look at Andrea Mitchell.
She looks like a mobster in drag.

Keith Olbermann was the first to beat the drum for that
"Fairy Tale" myth.
When Abrams finally played the comment in entirety I could not
believe it! The comment was NOTHING.

I was shocked that Olbermann would deceive his viewers.
I've been his fan for 8 years, and no longer watch
his show because of that deceptive little stunt.

The Obama people have been shrewd about creating this
illusion of Bill's negativity. It's nonsense.

We are dropping Cable TV. They have a history of
screwing our best candidates. They brought on Swiftboaters
night after night to kill off Kerry. They also killed off
Howard Dean.

I don't feel like paying cable to kill off our candidates.

[DURHAM D]

34. I am with you on KO -

I originally bought TIVO to record KO. When he started making the news instead of reporting the news I took him off the list.

[MonkeyFunk]

2. the media

love to create a fight where there isn't one.

We've got all these networks with 24 hours to fill, and they no longer have the staff or infrastructure to actually report much real news. So they have to make up stuff like this to discuss for hours on end.

[neutron]

28. MSNBC is always against democrat interests

MSNBC had the Swiftboat people on their shows night after night to
smear Kerry.

They played the Howard Dean yell over and over and made him the laughing stock.

They jeered at Al Gore when he was running against GWB.

G. E. the corporate parent makes certain that ultimately, their news channel
is an advertisement for corporate intrests.

We are dropping cable, because I don't need to pay for propaganda against the
interests of my country.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

32. "democrat interests"?

Really?

[cali]

3. I still can't get over your calling yourself a journalist.

"appauled"? yikes.

what's pathetic is your bitterness.

[Medusa]

25. Must be a "journalist" of the Fox News variety

you know--"fair" and "balanced"?

[CatWoman]

29. why is that Cali?

She makes as much or even more sense than you do.

[Tellurian]

4. It's also important for the media keeping Obama supporters in a dream state..

otherwise they might accidentally be faced with the reality of facts.

Oh, the horror!

[alteredstate]

5. Saturday was no dream.

I was there.

[Tellurian]

6. Neither was NH..

oh, the outrage. The election must have been stolen!..

We demand a recount!

***crickets!***

[alteredstate]

8. Why don't you demand a recount?

By the way, we had poll watchers at all key precincts. We were able to match the final vote tally with the the number of folks who signed the voter sign-in sheets.

It was impossible to do so when the poll watchers were thrown out of the NH polling places.

[Tellurian]

11. The recount has been underway for more than a week now..

Haven't you heard? Rep Kuchinich asked for the recount.

no voter irregularities found to date.

The point is, when the dream of a win didn't happen and the reality of a loss set in, Obama supporters were outraged accusing the Clintons of cheating. They didn't have a problem seeing a recount take place.

[alteredstate]

13. I'm talking about SC.

[Tellurian]

15. You sound confused..

The reason for the justification of a recount is when election results are close and within the moe.

Obama won in SC by double digits, thus his win would be outside the moe.

[alteredstate]

20. Gee, I guess I am confused!

You posted

"We demand a recount"

so I simply suggested that you ask for one.

***edited to fix a typo***

[Tellurian]

21. Disingenuous excuse at best.. keep dreamin'

[karynnj]

16. No one in the Obama campaigned called for a recount - Kuchinich did

NH was real - and it was won partially with last minute dirty tricks - that you are proud of. Distorting Obama's views on Iraq and choice on the day of and immediately before the election was almost as good as Rove. But, Clinton did congratulate Rove on doing his job well at the ceremony opening his library in November 2004 - about 2 weeks after the election.

[Tellurian]

17. Who said anyone in Obama's campaign called for a recount?

[neutron]

27. they put the buzz out that Hillary rigged the NH election

and his supporter Kucinich stepped up to back a recount.
It turned out HRC got MORE votes than originally counted.

What asses!

[neutron]

26. KUCINICH IS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER

get it?

[karynnj]

30. Kuchinich asked his Iowa people to go to Obama

if they were not viable. He was a candidate himself at the point of asking for a recount. He still has not endorsed Obama - though given the Iowa comments, it's not clear he needs to.

That is still a world of differnce from Obama demanding a recount - his campaign did NOT.

[karynnj]

14. Wow - That must have been awesome

Even through the TV the enthusiasm, energy and joy of that crowd came through. Obama's speech was awesome and set the tone for going forward.

I hope the positive energy to become a better nation contrasted enough with Bill Clinton's self absorption and smallness in his comments. We can't get the huge things done that need to be done without first getting people to trust and believe and to work together. It is clear that unlike either Bush or Clinton did, Obama would work to make the country understand why change is needed and will work with Congress.

[alteredstate]

19. Thank you! We worked hard for 8 months.

Every Saturday we canvassed and registered voters in North Charleston, the seventh most dangerous city in the United States. On Sundays we visited local churches. On week nights we worked the phone banks.

And on election day we were joined by thousands of volunteers from all over the country.

There's no way to adequately describe how we feel right now.

[karynnj]

31. Congratulations on an amazing job

Your hard work really made a huge difference. I know speaking to my college student daughter that the idea that a campaign could be destroyed by lies and smears - by a Democrat - hurt her more than the 2004 loss. To attack a positive, campaign of hope where they held all the advantages in terms of controlling the party and many people in the media was appalling. Triumphing over that nastiness and then giving that incredible speech was awe inspiring and likely restored hope to many.

[MethuenProgressive]

7. The media has created the fairy tale, why wouldn't they perpetuate it?

1) Bill called the MSM's portrayal of Obama's so-called anti-Iraq War record a "fairy tale".
2) "Fairy Tale" is not racist.
3) The MSM has selected their candidate.

[robbedvoter]

9. Correction: MSM has selected the designated loser to their candidate

I personally believe any dem beats any GOP-er, just to be clear - but MSM is making those mathces -waves the "electability" wand - then starts shaping perceptions. "Gore invented the internet! "Gore is a serial liar" "He would do or say anything to win". Familiar?

[Sparkly]

18. I agree totally about Gore.

They're creating a list of supposed offenses in exactly the same way.

[karynnj]

10. The Iraq comments are the bigger lie there

The problem is not that he used the word "fairy tale", but that the characterizations were lies.

Obama was against the war and said so at the time in extremely strong words. It made sense for him to diffuse a question in 2004 that as he didn't know what was in the intelligence, he didn't know how he would have voted. Note that does NOT say he would have voted for it, which someone famous for parsing the word "is" should get. As Kerry said on This Week, Obama wanted to avoid a sound bite that could have hurt the campaign. It was a generous thing to do.

Clinton then went on and said that Obama had said in July 2004 that his position on Iraq was similar to Bush. The full paragraph showed that he was saying he was similar to Bush in the goal of leaving a stable Iraq, but his position on how to get it was entirely different and like Kerry's supported intense regional diplomacy. In fact, in 2004, his position of what to do going forward was like Kerry's, which the media later mentioned were like what the Iraq Study Group recommended - which was not what the Bush administration has done to this day.

Just as Obama would not make on issue of the IWR vote in July 2004, he did not say that his position was like Bush's - which would more seriously have hurt Kerry/Edwards. Kerry had called for Rumsfeld to be fired and had made many many criticisms of how Bush was fighting the war.

[Apollo11]

12. If Bill Clinton understands anything, it's the power of a soundbite.

Sorry - but didn't Bill Clinton lead us into the soundbite era?

"A hand up, not a hand out."

"Let's build a bridge to the 21st Century."

"The era of big government is over"

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

"This whole thing is the biggest fairytale I've ever seen."

I don't see how Bill can complain when the media plays back his soundbites.

Bill Clinton is not a rookie. He knows how the media works.

To pretend otherwise is to "misunderestimate" him.

[alteredstate]

22. Great post

[ShortnFiery]

23. It sounds "very similar" to how MANY OF US saw Bill Clinton in 1992 - *hope and insight* candidate.

"can't-do-wrong, can't-hold-him-accountable golden boy."

The Clintons and their die-hard promoters can't have it both ways.

I'd suggest that Obama is the candidate "of hope" that Bill Clinton was viewed by the lion's share of The Democratic Party in 1992.

It's time to know when your 15 minutes of FAME has come and gone. Both Clintons need to graciously get the hell off of our National Stage. It's not just the Republicans who are growing tired of their divisive political antics. But the welfare of The American People is NOT what The Clintons are about - IF they wish to hold one semblance of "integrity and good character" they will quit with the dirty tricks and run a STRAIGHT-UP campaign. Then when the chips fall and HRC happened to win (I hope not but it's a possibility), it's more likely that Obama's supporters will unite WITH The Clintons.

Right now, The Clintons are burning-up a hell of va lot of "Good Democratic Will" only serves to further their personal (and their coveted DLC's) ambitions. If they continue, they just may take *our* party down with them ... we'll be FORCED to be saying either "President McCain" or "President Romney" come January 2009. :thumbsdown:

[Clinton Crusader]

33. You have to feel sorry for ANYONE sleeping with Alan Greenspan

The whole MSM, especially MSNBC has to keep everyone in a dream state by perpetrating the racism fairy tale. OOPS! I said fairy tale!!!

:wow: