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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:36 PM
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I am 42 years old. I've never seen anything like this in my life.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:53 PM by sparosnare
I was not old enough to remember JFK and RFK; I only know what's been written in the history books, captured on film and told by those who were there.

What happened today was truly an extraordinary event, no matter who you support.

The message that the dream is still alive, that this country can overcome and be great again, that we can all work together as Americans is very powerful. I have no doubt that Obama has what it takes to stand up to the Clintons and Republicans and lead this country to a better place.

Naysayers: Your words mean nothing to me. Not today and not for the rest of the campaign.

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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:38 PM
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1. I'm 33, and I couldn't agree with you more!
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:38 PM
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71. Stand up to the "Clintons and the Republicans"?
This says a lot about Obama supporters. Most are driven by Clinton hate...not real support of Obama. Once the deed is done to throw Hillary under the bus, these folks will desert Obama like rats fleeing a sinking ship.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:40 PM
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74. Because she is his biggest obstacle to the nomination - duh.
I won't tell you I like Hillary, but I certainly don't hate her.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:38 PM
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2. What are you referring to? (I just got out of bed.) Thanks. nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:42 PM
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10. Ted,, Caroline and Patrick endorsing Obama today -
All on stage, fantastic speeches - you'll need to find it on YouTube and watch. :hi:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:47 PM
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21. Thanks. I read a little further and saw what I'd missed. I WAS alive at that time,
about 10 or so, and it was MAGICAL and HOPEFUL. I have no doubt today was the same.

I'm so glad you youngsters :7: get 'your turn'.

Lookin' forward to the video. :hi:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:34 PM
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94. You and me, Gately. Ten years old. nt
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:27 PM
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66. I remember when Jack Kennedy Ran and he didn't get southern votes that easily
Many Blacks weren't sure they could trust him , however by the time he was A.... Black people were crying in the streets..Along with many White Democrats.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:29 PM
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67. Jon/Jack Kennedy was as articulate as Bill Clinton, Obama is far from that
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:29 PM by surfermaw
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:42 PM
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75. Oh thanks for that!
Funny!!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:38 PM
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3. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to ask how the kool-aid is..

I find it quite refreshing.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:38 PM
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4. Though I was a child back then, I remember how it was...
THIS IS IT!!!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:39 PM
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5. I was born the same year as Caroline was
and I remember all of it! I haven't felt this much hope in YEARS!!!

I met Ted in 1986 and shook his hand. :D Wow, was that ever a fine moment!

KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!

:dem:

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:40 PM
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6. you ole bat
:P
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:42 PM
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11. lol!
:hug:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:40 PM
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7. Naysayers: Your words mean nothing to me. Not today and not for the rest of the campaign.
Oh, honey, I knew that.
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:40 PM
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8. 44 here and I agree
Two GREAT speeches and a couple good little ones thrown in.

Plus a little eye candy, Caroline still looks good. (sorry typical male reaction I guess)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:41 PM
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9. I remember JFK and RFK and all I can say is I've haven't been this moved
in decades. It was an amazing event and it was from the heart.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:42 PM
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12. Definitely.
This was major.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:43 PM
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13. You just saw It.
That was It. That is what was here in America in the 1960s and early '70s. It is what the dark forces in our society tried to wipe out. But It is here, today.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:03 PM
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47. IT...
...is back. And I'm old enough to remember IT. :7
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:51 PM
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77. For those of us
who are of a certain age, and who participated in or witnessed certain events, and understood .... we know It when we see It. We know when we hear It. We feel It.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:58 PM
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88. The void of the last..
...several years has been difficult. I wondered if IT was possible again. Today is a good day.:patriot:
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:39 PM
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72. I'm really trying to see it, but I'm not there yet. I'm really not.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:43 PM
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14. 43, neither have I
It felt Obama was really moved and sincere in trying to convey the importance of this moment to him personally to the younger crowd. It was extraordinarily moving.

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:43 PM
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15. I'm 38 and I concur
This is a national generational movement for change unparalleled by anything in my past experience
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:44 PM
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16. me neither but probalby for different reasons than you. I've never seen this kind of sheepthink
with no substance behind it
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:44 PM
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17. Have a nice day!
:hug:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:45 PM
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18. I was 6 months old when JKF was assasinated
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:47 PM by rox63
So I don't remember anything from his time in office. But so many good people were inspired by him to serve their country, it's obvious he was an inspirational leader. Teddy carries huge influence with old-guard Democrats. This may be a turning point in Obama's campaign, endearing him to older and younger Dems alike.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:45 PM
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19. Oh and the naysayers - they were with us then and they are with us now.
Remember, JFK won the 1960 election by a very narrow margin. I think we look back on it a somehow historically inevitable. ;)

It will be a battle for the nomination and the election.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:45 PM
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20. I'm 42 too, and I feel your "pain."
;) It was amazing. It felt like history in the making?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:47 PM
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22. Yes it did - history.
I am not easily moved by anyone and I don't consider myself emotional but I couldn't help getting goosebumps and tearing up. :hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:54 PM
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37. I'm emotional about politics but Obama inspires me greatly as does Ted Kennedy.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:55 PM by mzmolly
Seeing them both together was moving indeed. ;)
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:47 PM
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23. That's fine, but
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:48 PM by Gman
will somebody ask Obama to please explain his "hope" and "dream"?

Naysayers' words mean nothing do they? Listen, I've got some land in Arizona, it's prime oceanfront real estate. I can get you a really good deal. I know you've got to be interested...
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:50 PM
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29. Thanks for a breath of sanity.
Rhetoric without substance is nothing more nor less than bullshit.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:51 PM
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30. Oh man, dont piss on the group orgasm!
These kids need "hope" and stuff!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:57 PM
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40. That's nasty. I'm an Edwards supporter, but these speeches were amazing.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:24 PM
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62. OOOOh! Amazing Speeches!
Gee, I thought something of substance had happened...
Amazing speech...right...another one..sorry, I dont get it and I wont get it because 'amazing speeches' dont do a fucking thing for me.
Especially when they are made by some political dinosaur who hasnt been relevant in years.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:27 PM
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64. "political dinosaur who hasnt been relevant in years."
Are you sure you follow democratic politics?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:27 PM
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65. Have a nice day!
:hi:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:52 PM
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34. 50 speeches at barackobama.com
Go Read.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:53 PM
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36. Thanks! I begin to wonder if they know how.
;-)
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:16 PM
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58. I can give a good speech
it doesn't make me a good candidate for president, though.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:26 PM
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63. Issues Speeches
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:33 PM
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86. I can do those, too
still doesn't make me a good candidate for president.

Obama's policy agenda is the weakest of the 3 Dem candidates. Rhetoric will only get you a certain percentage of the vote.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:24 PM
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92. You've never posted one word about policy
Not one. All you do is post potshots, day after day. It's pathetic. I doubt you know anything about Obama's policies, or Edwards' even. Nobody ever wants to admit Edwards health care plan isn't based on mandates, for instance, even though it's right there on his web site. Nobody will notice it until a national pundit tells them to. Talk about sheeple. Go read something for yourself for a change. Anything at all. It would be refreshing.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:15 PM
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57. Obama channeling St. Reagan
is not doing it for me. I'm old enough to remember that candidates who sell themselves like laundry detergent usually don't have much substance and could care less about living up to their promises.

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:47 PM
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24. Its happened before you were just too young to realize it
This feels a lot like 1968 when an incumbent Dem president was challenged by members of his own party over a disastrous and meaningless war. The rebellion led to the candidacies of Eugene McCarthy and Robert Kennedy and ultimately to a very divisive Demcoratic convention in Chicago where the incumbent VP was chosen after a few nasty days of protest and violence. Younger voters (I was one of 'em) felt we'd been fucked over and a lot of people sat out the general election.

And we wound up with nixon. Hopefully history won't repeat itself.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:01 PM
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44. I had the same thought. I hope the candidates's people
are on top of security. Probably all of us who went through 1968 will have that thought at some point.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:17 PM
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59. This is why the vp will be very important....
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susanr516 Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:59 AM
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113. I agree
I was 14, the RFK campaign stops, crowds of people pressing forward, straining to just touch his hand. Thanks for reminding me.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:48 PM
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25. What about when Luke blew up the Deathstar?
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:49 PM by sfam
That was close to this. :)

Now if only we could get Chewy to do his growl thing and get the rest of the Democratic supporters in line.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:49 PM
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26. OMG!! But it wasn't real! I remember that - cheers in the audience!
:rofl:
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:51 PM
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31. As a 10 year-old kid on opening night, it seemed pretty real to me!
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:52 PM by sfam
I was there on opening night at the historic Uptown Theater in DC - that movie actually saved the Uptown (I've seen all Star Wars movies on opening night in fact). Anyways, it was pretty damn inspirational to me (now a 40 year old). But I agree - in politics its hard to come up with a time that I've felt this inspired.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:49 PM
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27. Oh, gosh, if my words mean nothing to you, why post on DU? Vacuum.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:50 PM
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28. Have a nice day!
:hi:
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:01 PM
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45. And you also :)))
:loveya:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:53 PM
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35. What, no stars in your eyes? Your opinion means nothing then! Be gone with you!
:evilgrin:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:52 PM
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32. I am 30 and most of my political awareness...
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:53 PM by Kristi1696
have been spent during the times of these Bush, Clinton, Gingrich squabbles. These divisive politics almost killed any desire to involve myself in politics.

Barack Obama, and now the Kennedys, are bringing back that faith in fighting for my country.


(ETA: It feels good to be excited about politicians younger than Carl Levin and John Conyers! lol)
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adabfree Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:52 PM
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33. THAT'S THE SPIRIT!
KEEP HOPE ALIVE!
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:55 PM
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38. I am 61 and I lived the dream all over again today -
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:56 PM by 1776Forever
Thank you to the Kennedy's for standing up!!!! It meant so much to me today. I was a young woman of 16 when JFK was running and I quit my Bible church over the fact that they were handing out hate literature on Catholics! I also saw Ruby shot Oswald on TV too and remember the terrible day when we were told in my classroom that JFK had died. I hope and pray for a better tomorrow! We must continue to dream or we will die and I have read Obama's stand on issues and I CAN believe!!!!!!

Yes we can!!!!!!!
:applause: :woohoo: :applause:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:57 PM
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39. Thank you for your story -
it's great to hear from those who were there. :hug:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:10 PM
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54. I remember those things...
too. Caroline Kennedy is a brave, courageous woman. She prefers to work in the background...not be out front in politics. After all she has lost, that's no wonder. For her to speak out is amazing...and she was convinced by her daughters, just like me. :)

Here's another thought...my parents were inspired today, by this Kennedy endorsement. They voted for Bush (twice). Today they were in tears, and have decided on Obama.:patriot:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:22 PM
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60. I'm 55 and I remember and I still dream.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:25 PM by Skidmore
JFK was assassinated on my birthday and MLK on my brother's birthday. Birthdays have never been the same since that day.

We can and we will restore this nation. I'm so happy that our children were able to get a glimpse of what it was like back then. I promise I will join them as we move the nation toward the shore and hope together.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:56 PM
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87. What an incredible story to share with us.
Thank you!
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:58 PM
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41. I was a kid during JFK and remember hearing the reports on the news of his assasination.
It was a tragic time for our nation. With his death so died the hopes and dreams of millions of american.

I congratulate Obama on the Kennedys' endorsements today and imagine this will give him a tremendous boost but don't consider the speeches and the celebrations as the be all and end all of this campaign. It's actions that will make the difference to all americans and the actions of Bill Clinton and his administration in bringing our country out of the horror of trickle down economics and into the global limelight was just as moving to me as these speeches are to you.

Good luck to us all and may we all survive the recession/depression and world hate that lies ahead for us during the next presidential term - whoever our president may be.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:59 PM
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42. Same age and an Edwards supporter, but that was a hellava speech
and a hellava endorsement by Kennedy.


:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:59 PM
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43. This happened for Bobby. I'm too young to really remember JFK
except the day he won and the inauguration sort of in snatches.

Hey! I'm too young to remember something! lol)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:02 PM
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46. I'm 52 and I have seen something like this it was in 1968
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:04 PM
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48. I'm with you..
if people refuse to see, if people refuse to hear, and only persist in petty, ugly, divisive tactics to promote a candidate, they need to be marginalized in the same way they are trying to do it to others. People can vote for, support whoever they want...but I will not be listening to their ugly, arrogant, dying breed bullshit again.
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agdlp Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:05 PM
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49. It made me scared...looking like worshiping not politics
...
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:35 PM
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68. Bingo, newbie and welcome to DU...n/t
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:40 PM
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73. What about the worship of Bill Clinton? n/t
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:58 PM
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95. What about the surf being 3' to 5' feet today?
What? One has nothing to do with the other...
(FWIW...I never cared for Clintons' policies)
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:23 PM
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91. You WILL be assimilated...
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_Wayne_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:06 PM
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50. The Clintons, sparosnare, fought EVERYTHING to take America "to a better place"
That you dare include their name next to the "Republicans" makes me question your motives.

Why is it that everyone here who "supports" Obama must also trash Hillary?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:09 PM
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53. It's not meant that way; only that they are his biggest obstacle to the nomination.
I have a lot of problems with Hillary and the Clintons in general; I don't make any bones about that if you read my posts. There's no litmus test that says one must support them to be a good Democrat. It's the divisiveness more than anything; if Hillary gets the nomination, it's still business as usual. Oh - and her IWR vote and refusal to admit it was a mistake.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:13 PM
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55. I'm relatively new to this site but just a few short months ago...
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:13 PM by sfam
I would have been very happy with Hillary as the final choice. I was fairly undecided on who to support, but generally was fine with all three candidates (my ONLY issue with Hillary then was her "vote"). This has changed. And no, I don't think I've been hoodwinked any more than Ted Kennedy has. Its about how they have run their campaign. The idea that they need to "quash false hope" - that they have to divide the electorate and bring down everyone in order to win was probably bunk - worse, its divided the democratic party. Hillary was a fine candidate taking the high road. She should have weathered the Iowa storm and stayed positive and on message.

That said, I fully agree that the Clinton Administration in the 90s was far far far better than what we've had the 8 years since. However, it would have been nice to see Bill Clinton stay the spokesperson for the party instead of the diminished attack dog he's recently become.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:14 PM
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56. Thanks for your thoughtful post.
:hi:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:06 PM
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51. I'm 43, and I'm with you...
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:10 PM by TwoSparkles
I experienced the Obama campaign in Iowa.

Essentially, Obama hadn't won anything yet, and the Clintons were not in
engaged in full attack mode while campaigning in Iowa.

Iowa provided all of the candidates with a pure platform from which to
launch their plans and vision for America. Obama's message, his
ideas his inspirational speeches and his campaign organization--coalesced
an amazing feeling of hope and optimism.

His campaign truly was transcendent.

My optimism came from Obama's commitment to the Constitution (he taught Con
Law at Chicago University) and his determined plan for reinstating Habeas
Corpus, stopping illegal wiretaps, handing us back our civil rights; and
for running a transparent government without a "Unitary Executive"
mindset. I was inspire that a candidate actually cared about those things.

I was so hopeful, after Obama won Iowa, that we had entered a new era of
politics.

It was very depressing to see this race spiral down to the lowest common
denominators--after Iowa, and to watch Obama caught between delivering his message
and constantly fighting against the lies. Of course, this is a common
Clinton tactic--keep the candidate off a winning message, by keeping
them busy deflecting gross mis-characterizations.

Kennedy's endorsement of Obama helps to re-focus this race and put it back
where it belongs--in the arena of the candidate's ideas, plans and vision.
It was in the gutter before.

Now, maybe--all of the candidates can proceed forward and talk about
ideas--instead of slopping around a mud puddle.

This is huge...just so historical.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:07 PM
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52. 42 as well
last time around I thought Dean had a sense of the inspiration of JFK. Today I realize he wasn't even close. That was the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my lifetime when it comes to politics I don't know if there will ever be a moment to match it again as long as I live. It had me in tears several times.

I am just in awe right now. The promise of our country was reborn today and for today at least I will revel in the possibility of our return to our standing of the beacon of light and hope for the world.

I am past ready to believe in an America devoted to truth justice and equality for all.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:23 PM
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61. I've never believed in it; right now I do.
And before anyone tries to tell me I've been brainwashed (many here have), let me say that I also know where Obama stands on the issues. :hi:
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:36 PM
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69. Have a nice day! n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:36 PM by here_is_to_hope
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:02 PM
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83. You really are out there, aren't you? I looked at your posts on this thread on couldn't find one
the least bit rational, relevant or sane......which ends up giving me a sigh of relief knowing that you are on the "other" side.....please do us all a favor and stay there
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:05 PM
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89. Thats the trouble, you are looking for rational, relevant and sane on
a thread that has Obama sounding like the Second Coming because some old Kennedy endorsed him...
I dont get it...and I saw the speech!
My senses tell me I am looking at the North Platte river...an inch deep but a mile wide.
I want to like Obama, I really do and you know I will be there in the GE but...
I see no there "there".
Just speeches, more and more and more and more...
Who cares about speeches, lets see something substantial.
Or not.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:20 PM
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90. SPEECH = COMMUNICATION
THAT is how our leaders build relationships with us and others..... Very basic really. If you fall asleep because the communicator is so dull and uninspiring - who will know what they are about and what they are trying to do. The more talented a speaker is the better chance of gathering support and moving issues forward. We have all had 8 years of embarrassment because of Bush's lack of skills with the English language. We have seen JE try to inspire and motivate people to support him and his ideals, but he has not been very successful. To get support, you want to at least be willing to listen to the speaker and if he/she can actually motivate/inspire you to believe in their ideals, then really that is what in part defines a great leader. We are very fortunate to have Obama as a Democrat and not a Republican.

Obama has 12 years of Government service experience besides his time in Washington, he also was on the right side of the Iraq issue when the other 2 candidates were not. The North Platte river may be shallow, but Obama's speech's are not, nor are his credentials. Whatever is holding you back from "liking" Obama is your right, but personally, I say it is also your loss. Of the 3 running, he is easily the most substantive.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:21 PM
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85. For just a moment, did you feel PROUD to be an American again?
I have not had that feeling for the last seven years, but today as I watched I felt I could once again lift up my head and look the world in the eye.

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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:38 PM
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70. It's big, no question.
Nothing like it in my life either. First Kerry, now the Kennedys. All the best Dems. It's a freakin' miracle!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:42 PM
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76. Sparosnare: Your words mean nothing to me. Not today and not for the rest of the campaign. n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:53 PM
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78. Have a nice day! And incidentally - I was a Clarkie in 2004 - nice avatar.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:53 PM by sparosnare
:hi:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 06:34 PM
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97. I wish you still were! If Hillary wins maybe you'll be seeing him again and
he'll get to uses his expertize and charm on world leaders.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:55 PM
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79. 41 and I agree 100%... ps...
see ya later, boomers... have fun playing shuffleboard
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:01 PM
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82. This boomer just got back from ice skating and I'm 55 yrs. old
Some of us are still pretty active physically and politically :-).
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:59 PM
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80. Hurrah. I agree.
Which has me starting to worry for Obama's safety. We know what happens when a strong, intelligent and charismatic African American starts moving the multitudes. Whackos slither out of the dark crevices with their rifles.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:00 PM
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81. What is most extraordinary
to those of us who witnessed the Kennedy campaigns are the many parallels that exist today. Not just the success of party but the revival of extraordinary gifts and message, of hope in very darkly divided times. It is quite a long list where the differences also are very instructive- and hopeful considering the greater flaws of the clan and the harsher times and greater ignorance. I say greater ignorance because there exists today a big chunk of people very much aware of what the public usually can only sense dully and distracted. Underneath there is so much more repressed, but exposed crap that the promise of newness is much more than a nice feeling.

Furthermore it is not a close thing or a partisan war but a positive smashing through that is more than canny politics something that is seen the same way even by GOP people that might hate the Kennedys the way they despise the Clintons. I sense that Obama can bring all this together, the impossible feat ending
on an election day landslide, though maybe not far beyond.

In larger context there are many strong party endorsements coming from the principled and the wise who can lead, encourage but fortunately not dictate the people's choice. That says a lot of good about our party versus the bossism in the GOP. The more impetus and the more coattails the more it is a tide and not just one successful politician. We need this to be victory for a much victimized people.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 03:13 PM
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84. What we saw offered today is the antithesis of what this Country is today
and many Americans, for very different reasons, do dream that this Country will turn around and regain its former greatness.

We looked over our historical political shoulder and got a glimpse of what was under President John F. Kennedy, and in that moment we knew we HAVE to capture that dream again.

If one watched that endorsement program and the passing of the torch by the Kennedy family to Obama, he or she is probably thinking political dreams can and do come true. Leaders with vision can do that and inspire the people to come along for the magical ride.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:32 PM
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93. I'm 29...
and a half. I enjoyed watching three's company and gilligan's island in reruns as a child - never did get the sexual innuendo laced throughout jack, chrissy (and/or terri and/or cindy), and janet's dialog, but I sure got a kick out of all the new and strange wonders those castaways would find on the island (or isle).
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 05:13 PM
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96. oh god. nt
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cloud75 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 06:41 PM
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98. I'm 40 years old the very first person i voted for president was Jesse Jackson
he was an inspiration.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 06:42 PM
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99. "Naysayers: Your words mean nothing to me. Not today and not for the rest of the campaign. "
In other words, you've relinquished your power to think critically.

That, my friend, is one of the prime characteristics of cult behavior, and something that we see among the far right and the fundies.

Come to think of it, I recall hearing and reading things like this during the Reagan "revolution."
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 07:42 PM
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100. No. I will have a debate with anyone. It's the attacks and stupid crap I'm not listening to.
:hi:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:09 PM
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103. Glad to hear that!
I usually to that crap either... although sometimes you just have to laugh at it!
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 07:44 PM
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101. I am 24 and "your words mean nothing to me"
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 07:46 PM by AGirl
I enjoy going on facebook, my favorite TV show is sex and the city and my inspirational figure is Hillary Clinton.


I majored in political science and I enjoy politics, I enjoy partisanship, I enjoy watching Hillary debate with fierceness and intelligence, I take pride in someone who has worked her whole life and is now having the chance to become the first female president despite all the odds and naysayer.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 07:50 PM
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102. I'm 41 years (young?), and I feel the same way.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 07:50 PM by calteacherguy
:hi:
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:14 PM
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104. This will turn of a lot in Independents, which is what any Dem will need.
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:18 PM
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105. I'm 61 and I have seen it before with the Kennedys, Dr. King and
George McGovern. But until Obama I had doubts that I would ever see it again. How sweet it is at my age to see an inspirational figure capable of leading our country to the higher ground of it ideals and away from its fears and divisions.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:26 PM
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108. 50
I have not felt inspired about a politician since RFK was asassinated. Obama has restored that hope, that inspiration.

mike kohr
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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:28 PM
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109. My wife and I are 60
and we feel the same way.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:21 PM
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106. I don't care about any of that touchy-feely BULLSHIT
I want to know what he will do about corporations (from whom he has taken many, many contributions) and health care and when he will pull the troops out of Iraq. Other than that, he can stuff the touchy-feely shit. I am not buying it; it is so fucking phony.

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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110. I wouldn't call it phony. He isn't saying he is going to reign in the
corporations and I don't doubt that neither Hillary or Obama will. I think Edwards would at least try.

Blame the people voting for them, not the candidate. That being said I do like Obama.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:21 PM
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107. I was stunned by the depth of my response.....I'm still deeply moved....
It brought back a lot of memories of better times.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:50 PM
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111. Say hello to Prez McCain...nt
All you care about is what makes you feel good...fuck our country, our Constitution and Democracy.

Ask yourself: Who has the best chance of beating the Republican candidate? And while you're at it...ask yourself why Obama is taking millions from Corporations that he will be beholding to? Why?

Has it entered your mind....what if? What if the racists, the Evangelicals, the old people (that you and your candidate have insulted), and just plain old republicans decide to stay the course and vote for McCain or Romney? Then what? All it sounds like to me is that you're living in some past dream that I lived with JFK and RFK.....

I don't think you understand....our nation will not live through another republican administration. At least you won't live to be old....our country will be gone. Are you really willing to take that risk for this 'dream' you have of a 'united future?'

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:25 PM
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112. LOL
this country is in trouble
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:14 PM
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114. You're not kidding...
I guess I must be missing something with this Obama mania thing.

I just hope that all the Dem voters who have been insulted and called asses over the last couple of months by Obama supporters don't get so offended that they just stay home on election day if he gets the nomination.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:30 PM
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115. But can he get the rest of the Democrats in the Congress to "stand up to the Republicans"? Oh, wait.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 12:38 PM by WinkyDink
WHAT "standing up to"? Isn't Obama going to be The One (tm Oprah) to UNITE the parties??

Yes, Bobby moved people; he was my candidate. He spoke to the poor, the disenfranchised. Like John Edwards is doing.

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