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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:54 PM
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For Obama supporters: Has your candidate advocated universal single payer health care?
Not some bullshit scheme with insurance companies involved, but a system like in Canada or Europe. You know, like the systems described in "Sicko".
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:55 PM
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1. Nobody has
And here's the plan (if you're interested):

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:59 PM
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5. Okay, you link to that on his official site
How does that square with the video clip linked in Post Number 2, immediately below? Watch it. In that clip he says he's for single payer as I describe in the OP.

Has he changed?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:56 PM
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2. Yes
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:58 PM
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3. No
He has said if there were no health care system in place, starting from scratch, he would choose single payer over any other. I wish he would advocate single payer. I don't see why any of them have to be mincing around about it.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:01 PM
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7. I think he recognizes the political reality
He knows the difference between what he would like to do and what he realistically can do.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:03 PM
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9. And what will scare the pee out of the under median worker
and that is mandated insurance when premiums are hundreds of dollars of month. We could lose the election over mandated health insurance and I'm not kidding.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:58 PM
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4. He advocated single payer a few years ago but since has retreated from that position.
The Edwards and Clinton plans have potential bridges to single payer and Edwards has made a point of selling that virtue of his plan.

Kucinich had the only true single payer plan.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:00 PM
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6. Are you an Obama supporter?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:10 PM
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11. No, I support Hillary.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:34 PM
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13. Well, there was an identical thread up for her supporters to reply
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nancyharris Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:05 PM
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10. potential bridges???
What "potential bridges" to single-payer health care are in the Clinton / Edwards plans that are not in the Obama plan?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:01 PM
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8. If he were creating health care delivery from scratch
he thinks single payer would probably be the way to go.

Since we have a different system, there are better methods to bring health care to everybody.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:32 PM
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12. No a single payer system would not pass the DLC Test or
the GOP.

No mandates keeps it more likely to be approved by the
GOP but this means there will always be some people not
covered
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:19 PM
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14. I guess Im now an Obama supporter by process of elimination.
And no, hes doesn't support single payer healthcare, which is too bad. I was looking forward to voting for Kucinich.
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