After Kennedy Obama needs Edwards endorsement

[GoldieAZ49]

for a sure win

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/2008_democratic_presidential_primary

Today, Clinton is leading in most of the Super Tuesday states and is expected to walk away from February 5 with more delegates than anyone else. But, since the Democrats award delegates proportionally, Obama will pick up a decent share as well. John Edwards will get some too.
Add to that the fact that 20% of the delegates are so-called Super Delegates--Democratic National Committee members, members of Congress, Governors, and other party leaders formally unpledged to any candidate. Theoretically, any candidate who wins 30% of the delegates through Primaries and Caucuses could end up grabbing the nomination with the support of the Super Delegates. For Obama, that becomes even more possible if he were to ultimately win the endorsement of John Edwards.
It is now possible to imagine a scenario where Senator Clinton wins battle after battle, primary after primary, but loses the nomination. If the Democratic Party establishment becomes disenchanted with the tone of her campaign, anything could happen. Eventually, Obama would have to win some more primaries, but a few late victories could be enough to win the hearts and votes of the Super Delegates.
Is it likely Obama will win the nomination this way? No.
Is it possible. Yes.
And, with Ted Kennedy’s endorsement, it’s a bit more possible than it was before South Carolina. That’s why things really are different.

[Seen the light]

1. Um........

:popcorn:

Remember Edwards supporters, we all don't feel this way.

[Kittycat]

4. Agreed.

Let Edwards run his campaign.

[tammywammy]

5. Agreed

And pass that over here :popcorn:

[LVjinx]

8. we all don't feel this way.

Anyone urging any candidate to drop out needs their motives questioned. I'm a Hillary supporter, but if Edwards is siphoning off labor voters who, so the story goes, might have otherwise voted for her in SC - so be it. If Edwards is siphoning voters that might otherwise have voted for Obama in NH - so be it. In the end, I think it's a wash.

Some have claimed individuals within the Obama camp say Edwards is secretly earning votes for them and intending to turn them over in exchange for a job - but I don't believe it. I will be very surprised, to say the least, if it's true.

[GoldieAZ49]

23. The article says EVENTUALLY

Edwards needs to stay in and reach his base with his message of change

This is going to go all the way to the convention, maybe Edwards can overtake the momentum that Obama has and the rolls will be reversed but it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

[Nailzberg]

9. Ah shit.

:popcorn: another one giving O supporters a bad name.

[GoldieAZ49]

27. I didn't write the article

nor did I say there was anything wrong with Edwards campaign. This race is going all the way to the convention.

How am I giving O supporters a bad name? I have never been critical of Edwards.

[Nailzberg]

31. There has been a lot of calls for Edwards to drop out by supporters of the other candidates

Kinda a non-issue now, I guess.

[jackson_dem]

2. Why doesn't Obama endorse Edwards?

He hasn't done much as being the media designated alternative to Hillary. Maybe he should give Edwards a shot before it is too late?

:sarcasm:

[comradebillyboy]

3. the tone of Obama's campaign is not

exactly uplifting of late. It good to know that John Edwards can usefully serve as Obama's pawn in his contest with Hillary. So John you now know what to do and what your duty to Obama is. Make Obama proud and kiss his hand and bow in submission to the new messiah.

[saracat]

7. Not gonna happen.

[sjdnb]

6. It would just slip off the glam/glitz anyway ... nothing to hold onto there

what's the point?

[JDPriestly]

10. Obama needs to explain what he meant by "excesses of the '60s and '70s"

Were the "excesses" the laws intended to create a Great Society? Were they the civil rights laws? What in the world were the "excesses of the '60s and '70s." If they were the laws that were intended to help the poor and provide equal opportunity to all, regardless of gender, age, race, wealth or poverty, then I cannot vote for Obama, and I doubt that Edwards will support Obama.

Likewise if they were the environmental policies that Jimmy Carter advocated, I will not be able to vote for Obama. And I doubt that Edwards will support him.

Obama can't just talk about "hope" and harmony and everybody getting together and expect support from people like me who have seen how the Republicans have made a mockery of every attempt by Democrats to compromise without sacrificing justice.

If by some outside chance Obama should be elected, his approach will fail and with his failure the hopes of millions will fail. Obama is not ready for the presidency. He is not ready to run for the presidency. It isn't a matter of how many years he has served in Congress. It is a matter of his personality. He is simply not mature enough to be president.

John Edwards is the only candidate who is mature, understands what needs to be done, and can and will do it. That is why I will write in John Edwards name on my ballot in November 2008, no matter what happens between now and then.

[comradebillyboy]

22. I agree with all of your points concerning Obama.

but then I'm a boomer who lived through the 50s, 60s and 70s and thought most of the changes were for the better. I'm old enough to have gone to segregated schools and used white only drinking fountains and seen rental ads even in 1967 that specified the race that a landlord would rent to. I worked as an environmental engineer for a big part of my career and I know what a difference the Clean Air Act and Clean Water and and National Environmental policy act did for our quality of life and the environment. Is Obama blaming Carter for the disruptions to the economy of the Arab oil embargo? is Obama rejecting the progress that women and all minorities made in that era? What are these excesses? That we questioned authority and took to the streets to protest social injustice?

Without answers to those questions I can't support a "democrat" who talks more like Bill Bennett and Bill Kristol.

[Tatiana]

11. I really think Edwards will take this to the convention. n/t

[GoldieAZ49]

29. I think so too

and I hope he does!

[NastyRiffraff]

12. Thanks to the Obama supporters who refuse to fall for this crap.

As for the OP, everybody's tired of this. If Obama can't win on his own, he should lose.

[saracat]

13. Never Never Never!

[balantz]

14. I'll post this here too, lest we overlook it.

Edwards did well for no national ads aired (or cabled) in Florida.

And keep in mind the media stays pretty much mute on Edwards nationally. Even with such handicaps he still got solid support from voters.

[loveangelc]

15. I'll say it again. Edwards is NOT hurting Obama.

[jackson_dem]

16. Kos was on CNN and said he thinks Edwards is actually helping Obama right now

[balantz]

17. How does he mean?

In what way is he helping him?

[jackson_dem]

20. He didn't specify

I assume he meant Edwards splits the white vote with Hillary in the South. In these states Obama is getting nearly universal black support. If Edwards was out the vote would come down to strictly racial lines, whether due to outright racism or identity politics, between two candidates and Hillary would win because whites are the majority, even among southern Democrats. With the white vote split Obama can finish third among whites but win with 80% black support.

[balantz]

21. That's what I was guessing.

Thank you.

[FrenchieCat]

18. I'll say it again. I agree.

[GoldieAZ49]

30. I agree

He is helping the whole campaign, especially in the debates

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. I hope not. Obama's agenda isn't even close to JE's. n/t

[asdjrocky]

24. It's asshat type posts like that...

It just keeps losing you days man. When are you guys gonna learn? I don't walk into a booth and just check, I get involved, I'm an activist. And every time I see one of these stupid ass posts, I just check off another day I won't work for Obama if he gets the nod.

Why is it that some of you are just bent on alienating good, hard working supporters? It's just plain stupid. By the way, Obamas lost 5 days now.

[Nutmegger]

25. I'm disgusted ...

:(

Thank you Rocky. :hi:

[asdjrocky]

26. 5 days and counting.

[Nutmegger]

28. I'm ready.

Let's do this Rocky. :kick: