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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:18 AM
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59%, almost 3/5th's, of the Florida Democratic Votes were cast by Women
That means 3 Women voted for every 2 men in the Florida Democratic Race. THAT is the statistics that jumps out at me most from Florida. Women have been turning out to vote in record numbers in all of the Democratic contests this year. This one just says it loudest. SOMETHING sure as hell seems to be motivating women to turn out this primary season. Think maybe that can help us in the fall if women are enthusiastic about our nominee?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:21 AM
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1. More women are alive than men in FL. That is the truth, except with my dad.
Figures (I love him dearly). But women live longer than men usually, and women DON'T LIKE WAR. Many men don't, but there are lots of vets in FL, and McCain appeals to them.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:22 AM
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2. whatever our differences
I'm sorry 'bout your mom.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:25 AM
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4. I just checked the U.S. Census data.
The 2006 estimate for Florida shows that 50.9% of Floridas population is Female, compared to 50.7% of the U.S. population being Female.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12000.html

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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:24 AM
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3. They have always been an active voting block
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:28 AM
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6. Yes, but 3 to 2?
If the gender gap tends to break Democratic Women vs Men, and women are really motivated to vote this year, that would bode well for our Party in Novemeber.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:12 AM
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10. They've outnumbered men for about a decade, but this election season is much different.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 05:13 AM by joshcryer
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:28 AM
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5. Same thing in NH and something Obama supporters just won't face
Women were 59% of the vote in NH as well. Women will carry the day for Hillary. Watch the same on Super Tuesday.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:15 AM
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7. But it didn't happen in SC.
Women went for Obama. And that was all before the resplendent Kennedy anointing.

I would not make ANY assumptions about Super Tuesday or anything else.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:49 AM
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8. There were some dynamics inside the SC contest that may or may not...
...prove to be relatively unique to that contest. Super Tuesday should give us a better feel on that. It's not so much the jury but the votes that still are out.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:50 AM
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9. Because 50% of the Dem voters there are black....
And I honestly don't blame them. If anything I feel sorry for them that their candidate is so bad. I feel in some ways the same way about Hillary. But pretending you're going to get that demographic on super tuesday strikes me as wishful thinking. AND a disaster for the country.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:18 AM
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12. You feel sorry for Black voters in SC, because they voted for such a "bad" candidate.
Since I don't think you are alleging that anyone forced them to vote for Obama, one could draw the conclusion from your post that your opinion of the intelligence of Black voters is quite low. If they voluntarily chose to vote for Obama, even though Hillary had high poll numbers among Blacks a few months ago, that can only be for one reason (right?), and you feel sorry for them for that.

It may be "wishful thinking" to hope that Obama does well with women voters on Super Tuesday and the rest of the primary season. Obama has to proceed on the assumption that women will not all vote for Hillary and more than all African Americans (or young people) will vote for him. You are onto something in that women and Blacks are turning out for our primaries in record numbers. Since there are more women in the US than Blacks, I suppose that gives Hillary an advantage, but I assume Obama understands that and realizes that, if he can't successfully compete for the women's vote, he is toast.

Going into the SC primary, there was much discussion of whether African American women would vote more for Hillary or for Obama. The fact that the latter occurred does not mean that it was a foregone conclusion.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:20 AM
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13. 40% of the American population are white females. 12% are black.
You do the numbers.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:39 AM
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16. I thought I had done the math with this statement.
"Since there are more women in the US than Blacks, I suppose that gives Hillary an advantage, but I assume Obama understands that and realizes that, if he can't successfully compete for the women's vote, he is toast."

Since Obama is neither white nor a woman, I hope he understands that in order to win, he has to get quite a few votes from people who will vote for him for reasons other than gender or race. Hillary could win with votes from people who share her race or gender, so I agree with what I perceive is your intent - that she has a bit of a natural advantage if the nomination comes down to voting based on race or gender.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:45 AM
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17. Please don't inject a negative racial spin into this
We may not like it but pretty much everyone in America realizes that there is an inclination for people to be drawn somewhat toward those who they feel the most in common with. It isn't a sociological secret that only gets revealed in PhD level graduate programs. It is just a factor, it is not anyone's pre-determined destiny to support someone of their own gender or race over someone who isn't.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:59 PM
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20. No, I feel sorry for them because their candidate is so bad
Similar to the way I wish Hillary could be my first choice. I would love to vote for a woman for president, but she was far from my first choice as a candidate. Has nothing to do with anyone's IQ.

In any case, african americans just don't have the kind of numbers they had in SC in most of the super tuesday states. That's just a fact.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:15 AM
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11. 57% in NH, 59% in Nevada - a good sign for the GE as well.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:22 AM
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14. 57% in IA, 61% in SC
Women always turn out for Dems. The real difference is the youth vote. In IA, SC, there was a large youth vote, 20%, Obama won. In NH & FL, the youth vote dropped to 9-11%, Hillary won. Obama brings out women and youth, and that will be key to winning in Nov.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:24 AM
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15. Any addition is welcome. Our turnouts have been 2 to 1 theirs. Everywhere.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:48 AM
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18. In an earlier post in another thread I said not to get all hyper
about pollsters like rasmussen giving mccain the lead over hrc.....I also said that one word is going to win this for HRC and that word is "symbolism" and think a moment and apply that to the vote above.....
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:49 AM
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19. I do believe that the sexist media pundits will energize the women
voters across the country to get out and vote.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:12 PM
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22. This is the Most Important Point
I believe this is the single most important reason, even beyond the historical importance of electing a woman President (that is, if the male corporate media would ever pay any attention to it whatsoever, other than to attack her). This has been the pattern from the beginning of this Primary season--with vicious, laughing attacks on Hillary Clinton, and warm, glowing, "we can all get together as a country, once we push the 'bitches' out of the way" free-ride coverage of Obama, that led to a huge increase in the numbers of women voting in New Hampshire, (the demographics weren't different; the number of white women who voted was much higher than the Obama/race-obsessed male media guessed, since they paid, yet again, no attention at all to the hated women). Then, when no male-cheerleader could even believe the results--a woman won, not the all-male racial groups of the corporate media!--they demanded a recount, making everything even worse, and women even angrier. They keep claiming that Obama wins women's votes, that "true feminists" should vote for Edwards--anything but a woman!--and claiming that Clinton's supporters are all "old" and Obama's "young," even though the voting entrance/exit polls, and demographics of the huge crowds both get, don't show that. They are about even on all age groups, up until 50+ I think it was, then Clinton wins, and Clinton is ahead on support from women.

Women's support of Clinton is treated as if we are "the Klan" "destroying the possibility of racial (male) progress" with Obama, we are an annoying "distraction" from anything really interesting, (that is, a male), and every little feature of Hillary Clinton's voice, hair, smile, eyes, movements, etc., etc., etc., have been angrily, viciously, as-a-male-group, ripped apart, ridiculed, attacked. It is treated as some kind of flimsy not-real-support, (since "bitches" all "hate" each other) that will soon crumble, as they all go running off after a male. There is no woman alive who does not react to all these situations; we live it every day and don't need it "explained" to us. No male candidate even bothers to refer to women's rights, issues, perspective, anything--and none are attacked for it or made to apologize. I guess we are just shit. The whole driving force for the exploding voting participation of women has been male bigotry against women. Before this campaign, I too, thought of Hillary Clinton as a "D"LC corporatist who has no relation to women, middle class people, etc., but when the prick oppressor reminds you, yet again, that you are all hated "bitches" to them, and they are going to tear you all down--it changes, doesn't it?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:01 PM
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21. More women vote than do men. That's why Hillary win. n/t
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