My parents (in FL) prefer McCain over Hillary but Obama over McCain.

[jenmito]

Get used to LOTS of people saying the same thing-that they would vote for Obama over McCain but would NOT vote for Hillary. They're both Dems. They love Obama but fear Hillary will win because of her name alone then lose the GE.

Sad to see us possibly throw away an election that should've EASILY been ours. But if Hillary is our nominee, not only will she unify and energize the Repubs., she'll make many Dems. stay home on election day.

[JohnLocke]

1. K&R.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

2. Republicans I know in Ca

would vote for McCain over Obama but Hillary over McCain.

[Clarkansas]

3. I know many independents that feel the same way.

It is no news that Hillary doesn't do well with independents, while Obama does.

[jenmito]

6. Exactly. She is not a united-except when it comes to uniting Repubs.

[oasis]

4. Dems who stay home will "throw away an election". I'm voting for the Dem nominee, regardless.

:patriot:

[jenmito]

7. Well, tell it to all the people who won't vote for Hillary. We will lose if she's our nominee.

[oasis]

19. I'll just tell them "I told you so" when McCain reinstates the draft and their

kids have to go to Iran/Syria/Iraq to serve in armies of occupation.

[rinsd]

5. Except that Hillary & Obama fare about the same against McCain (losing slightly, within MOE)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4290188&mesg_id=4290188

[jenmito]

10. Your polls in the head to heads show Obama doing better than Hillary against McCain.

And those were before the Kennedy endorsements.

[rinsd]

16. By a whole 0.3 of a point!

[jenmito]

20. He's rising. Those polls were before his big mo.

[Bitwit1234]

8. All the people I know IN OUR GROUPS ALL ACROSS THE NATION

SAY if the other guy wins they are going to vote for McCain. I won't but if he does win by hook or crook. He will not beat McCain. It will split the party in two. There is nothing wrong with him personally but he would really truly truly not make a good president AT THIS TIME.

[jenmito]

13. Obama would make a GREAT president at this time. Any later time is too late.

[Nedsdag]

26. Bitwit1234 as usual, you are a nitwit.

You know if Hillary wins the nomination and loses in November, SHE will split the party in two.

By the way, when is the time?

[mainegreen]

9. Wow! My mom prefers Hillary over McCain and McCain over Obama!

And my republican father in law prefers McCain to Hillary and Hillary over Obama!

Yay to improper internet statistical samples!

[jenmito]

11. I'm not surprised that your Repub. father prefers Hillary over Obama. n/t

[mainegreen]

31. Congratulations! You missed the point.

[jenmito]

32. No I didn't. Your last sentence summed it up.

[mainegreen]

33. Not really. You still missed the point.

Your basing your assumption on a non-scientific statistical sample of your relatives.

I could also point out my Republican Godfather prefers Obama, or even that a Democratic Cousin actually likes Ron Paul. This is all irrelevant though. It's not sound logic to conclude from such a teeny sampling that somehow Hillary is unelectable and that we should get used to hearing this.

Of course, I guess since I'm in GDP I should get used to this logical fallacy.

[jenmito]

34. I did NOT miss the point!!! I said your last sentence summed it up.

My comment was not to sum up your post.

[mainegreen]

35. Your poor extrapolation of political reality based on minimal information is the point.

And you missed it.

Your point about not being surprised summed it up nicely.

You assume too much.

[jenmito]

36. "Yay to improper internet statistical samples!" That's your point.

My "poll," your "poll," means nothing in reality. I did NOT MISS THE POINT!!!!! :spank:

[AtomicKitten]

12. In match-up polling, Obama has consistently fared better.

Your parents are clearly people of superior vision and intelligence, and clearly their offspring didn't fall far from the tree. ;)

[jenmito]

14. Yup, and those polls were taken before all the Kennedy endorsements...

Thanks for the compliment. :yourock:

[woodsprite]

15. My freeper BIL feels the same.

Of course, he's still mourning the loss of "Fred". Then there's my MIL/FIL who couldn't get John McCain and John Edwards straight in their heads.

I did make them go "hmmmm" when I tried to straighten them out though. I told them one's a self-made lawyer who stands for the average working people, the other is an ex-pow with corporate backing, who predicts years of wars and wants Lieberman as a VP or cabinet member.

MIL still didn't say anything about McCain, but said "Lieberman - he's that guy who can't decide what he is? He's a dem or independent, isn't he?" I said yes, but he votes consistently with the Repubs/Bush. So she knew ;) Maybe she'll figure it out before the election, but I swear she's on the slowest learning curve known to mankind.

[Nedsdag]

17. My die-hard Democrat mother said if Hillary is the nominee..

She'll either vote for McCain or Bloomberg. She cannot stand her.

[jenmito]

39. That seems to be the consensus. n/t

[Renew Deal]

18. Same with my boss.

He told me that this morning.

[jenmito]

21. Unbelievable that we could lose this election. It looks like lots of people feel the same way.

[goldcanyonaz]

22. Makes no sense, but then again, not much here does.

[jenmito]

24. The Clintons are not seen as honest. They're not seen as change. They energize the Repubs.

Some (many) people do NOT want any more of the divisive Clinton years. McCain appeals to Indies unlike the Clintons. Add that together and you get a Dem. loss.

[TornadoTN]

23. My parents and many coworkers have said the same

Sure its anecdotal but it does speak volumes about the issues at hand. My parents, middle-of-the-road Independents have said that they will vote for Obama over any Republican, however they will vote for McCain or Romney over Hillary should she be the nominee. A lot of people have also expressed to me that they really hope Clinton won't get the nomination because they really want to vote for the Democrat this time.

I get a lot of these responses because most people who know me know very well that I'm a Democrat and most of my political beliefs, not because they know I support one candidate or another (I don't make it plain to anyone that I support a specific candidate, I just say "Well, we're lucky to have a good crop to choose from).

[jenmito]

25. It seems to be the most common response/feeling out there. I hate to see this happen.

We need Obama-a UNITER-to be our nominee so a Dem. can be president.

[TornadoTN]

27. I certainly agree

So many people have said that they won't vote for Hillary because she's doesn't seem to have the nations best interests at heart or that she answers to a higher power - special interests - rather than the people. Others have said to me that everything that she does is scripted and she comes across as being spiteful because she feels that the Presidency should be hers by default. Still others are beyond hope by trumpeting a lot of the right-wing talking points so I somewhat discount their input because they wouldn't have voted for her in the first place anyway.

Again, it's all anecdotal but nonetheless they are real world experiences from someone that is in touch with many different facets of society and the classes within it. I really feel like Obama, while far from perfect, is a leader and someone that the American people could trust to work in the best interests of the nation. I think a lot of other people agree with that sentiment.

[jenmito]

29. Exactly...

I hate to see people voting for someone who's so hungry for POWER she's willing, with the help of her camp, to do and say anything to get elected. She will lose it for us.

[Nimrod2005]

28. I am in Florida, I am a proud Democrat, and I feel the same way!

[jenmito]

30. I bet MANY people do!

[spaceturkey]

37. I have also heard this a lot

Just through casual conversations I have heard many independents say Obama is the only democrat they would vote for. If McCain is the republican nominee I think Obama is our only chance.

[jenmito]

38. Thanks for sharing. Yes, I hear the same thing from EVERYONE-even Repubs. who

don't like anyone on their side.