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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:51 AM
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Poll question: McCain must Swallow the Evangelical Pill at the Convention: Who Gets on the Ticket?
Scenario: To keep the fundys and social conservatives from bolting the party, he's going to be forced to take one of the talibornagain... Who will it be?
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:53 AM
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1. Santorum
Huck's too liberal economically. He would help McCain send the real conservatives bolting to Bloomberg.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:58 AM
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5. Answered my own question... McCain/Santorum not in a million years
McCain is one to carry a grudge and he would remember ol' Rick for this stuff:

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Santorum:_McCain_Presiden/2008/01/14/64277.html?s=al&promo_code=42F8-1
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:07 AM
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15. McCain is one to hold a grudge? Really?


That said, I don't think he'll pick Santorum either.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:28 AM
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27. Heh. I don't watch their infighting.
Maybe I should start. It might be therapeutic.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:54 AM
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2. Other: Phil Gramm.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:06 AM
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11. That would be a good pick for him. nt
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:13 AM
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21. I think so too...
and would quell a lot of the bashing he is taking from RW radio and the likes of Rush and Ann Coulter.

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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:11 AM
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He's just creepy, though.
And he was involved in the Enron scandal.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:13 AM
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23. Repubs don't care about Enron. n/t.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:13 AM
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20. I'll bet he's as old as McCain, or close. Not an inspiring pick, either way.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:15 AM
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24. I personally don't want McCain....
to make an inspiring pick. I like listening to the wailing and gnashing of teeth over McCain on RW radio.
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:55 AM
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3. Damn, I saw "Santorum" and almost threw up my dinner n/t
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:07 AM
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13. Dan Savage ruined that word for me.
Talk about a vivid association. And now the name lives on after the man has faded. Santorum has achieved a kind of immortality, hasn't he?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:56 AM
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4. I never thought of Jeb though... hmmm n/t
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:02 AM
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9. Jeb has gotten behind Mittens...
I don't see McCain giving him the VP slot after that.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:59 AM
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6. I get the feeling McCain won't take an evangelical--since Indies and
Moderates are his strength, he wants to KEEP them instead of turning them off with a religious-right nutjob (thus losing them to the Democrat), and enough conservatives will vote for him because they simply have nowhere else to go. His nicey-poo relationship with Hucky is almost over--after Super Tuesday, Huck is finished carrying water for him and he gets a shiv in the back. McCain will pick a moderate governor, or a fellow moderate Senator with exec/economy experience.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:01 AM
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7. McCain-Giulani? They are already acting as if they are a ticket
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:07 AM
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14. only if they plan to let the Talibornagain leave the party...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:10 AM
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18. I don't know--Rudy might be a drag on the ticket because of his
objectionable personal life and sleaze. I could see Mark Sanford (SC Gov, who is popular with conservatives), Tim Pawlenty (MN gov)--I don't think those guys would garner a lot of excitement in a general election--they would certainly not hurt McCain, but they wouldn't be a big draw either. The one person who could hurt us as McCain's VP is Hagel, for all those Indies and moderates who don't want to vote Dem but also don't want 100 years of constant warfare, but I doubt McCain and he could ever patch up their differences on the war, thankfully.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:14 AM
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29. Having McCain and Hagel
on the same ticket would be like saying black & white AT THE SAME TIME, since they are polar opposites on what is McCain main claim to fame and to the presidency. Moreover, I doubt Hagel can be made to utter "islamo-fascists" or whatever McCain trademark expression exactly is, without throwing up.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:19 AM
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31. I can't see it happening either, because Hagel simply does not
speak that language or see the world that way, as you say. I don't even know if they're still friends--but politicians sell out their principles for power all the time, so it's not out of the realm of possibility if polls start showing the Dem nominee beating McCain in the summer because they actually have a war exit strategy. The war WILL be a huge issue if/when McCain is the nominee.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:12 PM
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38. It is not only a matter of principles
I simply think it will look politically bad (verging on the inept, not to mention confusing) for both of them to join, given how diametrically opposed they are on the war issue, and approach to foreign policy in general. And I agree, the war will be center stage with McCain. I still keep my fingers crossed for dear Mitt to stage a comeback :-).

As to whether Hagel and McCain are sill friends, I have of course no idea, but I remember watching the Senate, I think it was late December, they came face to face during a vote and they hugged each other, looked genuine.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:17 AM
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25. If it weren't so obvious that McCain and Romney despise one another...
I'd say Romney. Honestly.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:02 AM
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8. Mark Sanford
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:04 AM
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10. The traditional (money) conservative wingers cringe at the very
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 01:06 AM by featherman
thought of the Huckster. It may make sense to outsiders but I really doubt it would ever fly in the backrooms and boardrooms. They need an "acceptable" Veep
I think Thompson fit the bill for many until it turned out he was asleep. They may go with him for this though.
Why not Cheney again... he's done a good job and he's not dead yet... should be able to keep him alive roboticaly for the next eight years
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:06 AM
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12. You're exactly right on Huckabee.
McCain needs a southern Conserative who can help him raise money. Haley Barbour makes a lot of sense.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:07 AM
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16. Barbour would be a good choice... vast networking ability
and a southern gov... I think you may have something there
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:26 AM
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32. Haley Barbour would be a very good bet. n/t
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:13 PM
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44. That's right
Huckabee actually gets even less corporate money than John Edwards. Which tells you almost everything you need to know. Big Money liked Bush because they knew he was just pretending to be a fundie; the thought of an actual fundie President freaks them out.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:08 AM
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17. Brownback?
He's a fundy from a safe state, and I think he might be more palatable to the McCain wing than Huckabee.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:45 PM
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40. That's what I'm thinking
Brownback is a weird case. He's a fundy who converted to a pre-Vatican II style of Catholicism. But he passes all of the religious right litmus tests, and he doesn't appear to have Huckabee's ethical problems.

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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:13 PM
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45. Right,
so he could run as a Catholic and as an Evangaloid at the same time. Appeal to two groups.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:11 AM
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19. Huckabee - likeable, evangelical - possibility there -nt
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:13 AM
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22. I know it's a longshot, but I hope he appeases the
extreme rightwing by putting Inhofe on the ticket. The guy is certifiable. I caught him pontificating on the Senate floor about how God wants us in Iraq. He makes Huckabee look sane.
McCain/Inhofe 08.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:21 AM
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26. What about Mittens?
Yeah, a Mormon isn't the first choice of the fundagelicals, but he'd keep the corporatists happy. And he does have Jeb & Poppy's endorsements. As long as Romney doesn't demand that Joseph Smith's birthday be made a national holiday, I'm sure Pat Robertson would accept him. He's got to be more religious than Rudie was.
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:33 AM
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28. mitt would help him
and we don't want that. this allows us to continue to chip away the Wall Street Republican demographic, which is already under attack. Put Fuckabee on the ticket, alienate secularists AND rush limbaugh cons, who hate huckabee too, and ride the Hillary/Edwards wave back to the white house
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:34 AM
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35. Help him lose. Romney is a remarkably unappealing man.
The thought of Mitt Romney potentially being president should something happen to McCain will prevent a lot of cross-over votes from going McCain's way.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:33 AM
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34. You have got to be kidding. McCain personally hates him.
I think I would be on the ticket before Romney and I'm not even eligible.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:16 AM
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30. It's one route he could take if he's the nom, but somehow at that point I
think he'll shut the fundies out. They've certainly done him no favors for many moons.

I think if McCain is their nom he'll pick Pawlenty.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:28 AM
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33. Putting Huckster on doesn't help him unite the party.
He has to contend with much broader dissatisfaction than that. He might have to end up putting Fred on the ticket, or Haley Barbour.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:10 PM
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41. Fred Thompson?
I feel kind of mean for saying this, but can you picture these two guys on stage trying to whip up a crowd? They're not exactly the dynamic duo.



Haley Barbour I don't know much about except that he's a winger from Mississippi.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:55 AM
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36. I like Mike
I'm hearing rumors that McLame and the Huckster are chummy these days. Ganging up on poor Mitten, call him a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:56 AM
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37. I dont' think he will....I think he'll pick LIEberman....
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:29 PM
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39. I think he might pick Gov Pawlenty of MN
who has been a big McCain supporter yet has strong backing of fundy repubs here.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:11 PM
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42. I hope it's Huckabee
Just for the entertainment value.
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