MUST READ FROM THE AP - QUOTES FROM THE DEBATE

[HopeforChange]

This is must read .

This sums it up quite well.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5juyZL6tO5JZpl0PXoB0SXt-wi4UQD8UH9DP00

[John Q. Citizen]

1. This is interesting...

"We had evidence that they had a lot of bad stuff for a very long time which we discovered after the first Gulf War."

Where were you Hill? We gave it to them. Of course we had evidence. It had our serial numbers on it.

[MADem]

2. After the first Gulf War? She was 1st Lady of Arkansas, on the trail with her

husband the governor, who was running for President.

[John Q. Citizen]

5. No, Bill was President during the first UN inspection regime. Remember? Scott

Ritter toured the country before the IWR vote. He testified to congress. She was in the Senate.

Are you telling me she doesn't know the history of UN arms inspections in Iraq? Now?

Man, no wonder she was so easily fooled. She still doesn't even know what she was fooled about. That's scary.

I can't believe she's ready for this job she wants. How could she be and say the things she does?

http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/09.26/03-iraq.html

[MADem]

7. I am afraid you are SORELY, EGREGIOUSLY MISTAKEN. There were protocols taking place before then.

BUSH was President when UNSCOM inpectors were in Iraq and inspections were taking place. Clinton was not sworn in until JAN 93. This is the shit she's talking about when she's referring to what was found after the First War--not the subsequent Ritter Inspections that took place much later.

YOU are the one who doesn't know the history of arms inspections in Iraq. Doesn't stop you from being a bit...didactic, though, does it?

Perhaps you're one of those people who foolishly thinks the sun rises and sets on Scott Ritter?? Newsflash--it doesn't. The party went on BEFORE he arrived.

Man, no wonder YOU are so easily fooled!!! I can't believe you didn't KNOW this stuff!! Anyone with a basic knowledge of the subject knows this!!! I really think we ought to hunt down Barbara Bush and give her a pop quiz on this material, too, while we're at it!!!!!! After all, it's something EVERY first lady should know!

:sarcasm:

:eyes:

If you're going to make FUN of someone, it really DOES help to have your facts in order.

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/khamisiyah_ii/khamisiyah_ii_s05.htm

In April 1991, United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 created the United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM). Its primary responsibilities were to identify and destroy Iraq’s surviving chemical and biological weapons and ballistic missiles, have the weapons moved to an Iraq destruction facility, or destroy the weapons in place.<148> Almost immediately after its creation, UNSCOM began inspecting Iraq’s facilities and continued through December 1998.

May 16, 1991: Iraq announced for the first time that chemical weapons were stored at Khamisiyah Stores during the Gulf War. Iraq declared to UNSCOM that 2,160 destroyed sarin-filled rockets were located at Khamisiyah Stores. <149> US intelligence analysts knew before Desert Shield/Desert Storm that An Nasiriyah ASP SW was a suspected chemical weapons storage site and so assumed that Iraq had identified the site they knew as An Nasiriyah ASP SW as Khamisiyah.<150> Furthermore, the name Khamisiyah had no significance to US analysts since they generally did not refer to any of Iraq’s weapons storage sites by that name. Khamisiyah Stores was the site the US knew as Tall al Lahm Ammunition Storage Area.<151> This confusion over names would prevail within the US government for years<152> and was one of the main reasons the government did not realize sooner that US forces had destroyed chemical weapons at Khamisiyah. Iraq’s declaration also included "6,240 intact mustard-filled 155mm artillery shells at Khamisiyah Stores (Nasiriyah)."<153>

October 1991: An UNSCOM team inspected Iraq’s chemical weapons at Khamisiyah. The UNSCOM team inspected what their map depicted as An Nasiriyah Depot SW (Khamisiyah). However, the inspectors were actually taken to Khamisiyah. Here, Iraq told the UNSCOM team Coalition forces had destroyed chemical munitions and warehouses and showed UNSCOM inspectors three sites in and around Khamisiyah that Iraq claimed had chemical munitions.<154>

...February - March 1992: UNSCOM continued inspections in Iraq, which repeated its claim that Coalition forces had destroyed chemical munitions in 1991. UNSCOM again inspected Khamisiyah from February 21 through March 24, when the team destroyed 463 122mm rockets. The inspection team described these munitions as "fully-, partially-, and un-filled rockets."<164> During the inspection, Iraq repeated its claim that Coalition forces had caused all the damage to the area.<165>

[killbotfactory]

3. Did she not know that the bad stuff expires?

Or that Bill pretty much bombed any site we thought was related to WMDs (or so we are told) and then some back in Operation Desert Fox?

[sandnsea]

4. That's why I hold the Clintons more accountable

If anybody was able to stop this war and now the truth about the bio/chem weapons that were supposedly undisclosed, it was them. Yet them, and all their advisers, kept to the story that there were all these hidden WMD in Iraq. I put them in collusion with Bush because they had to know better, they were privy to real intelligence where others in Congress weren't.

[John Q. Citizen]

6. She doesn't appear to know much about Iraq/US relations, or anything at all

about the weapons inspections, WMDs or stuff I read about in the paper.

It's scary.

[MADem]

8. Uh, she had it RIGHT. The OP had it wrong. But hey, pile on smartly!!! NT