Everyone thought Saddam was a threat and had WMD

[snooper2]

except Obama and the MILLIONS of people who protested before the invasion!

Like me, I marched in Dallas Texas and Crawford Texas....Hillary went with what was politically correct "patriotic masses wrapped in flag" at the time, and now she has to pay for it.

Hello? Remember NO BLOOD FOR OIL? Or lest we forget?

[AtomicKitten]

1. I remember it every single day. Thanks for the great photo!

[DainBramaged]

2. Yup, dozens of her supporters will now vote for Obama

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :spray:


Thanks for the news flash. Nice picture, use a filter? Kodak moment?

[snooper2]

5. Someone else took picture...

I was further up helping hold the black banner

[jefferson_dem]

3. Thanks. Her callous dismissal of Code Pink needs to be put on a video loop for all to see...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYATbsu2cP8

[sandnsea]

9. Her support of THE WAR is what people need to see

The IWR vote is the least of Hillary's problems on the Iraq War.

There is a very easy way to prevent anyone from being put into harm’s way, that is for Saddam Hussein to disarm. And I have absolutely no belief that he will. I have to say that this is something I’ve followed for more than a decade. If he were serious about disarming, he would have been much more forthcoming. . . . I ended up voting for the resolution after carefully reviewing the information, intelligence that I had available, talking with people whose opinions I trusted, trying to discount the political or other factors that I didn’t believe should be in any way part of this decision.
Hillary addresses Code Pink, March 7, 2003.

Tonight, the President gave Saddam Hussein one last chance to avoid war, and the world hopes that Saddam Hussein will finally hear this ultimatum, understand the severity of those words, and act accordingly. While we wish there were more international support for the effort to disarm Saddam Hussein, at this critical juncture it is important for all of us to come together in support of our troops and pray that, if war does occur, this mission is accomplished swiftly and decisively with minimum loss of life and civilian casualties.
March 17 2003 (Invasion)
We are in a two-front war. We are offense in Iraq and we have to finish the job
March 19 2003

“We must stay the course” in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and asked for more troops to finish the job.
“We have to exert all of our efforts militarily”
November 29, 2003 Hilary visits the troops In Iraq and Afghanistan

I am both a little optimistic and a little pessimistic, but what I'm trying to do is be realistic about where we are and what we need to be successful. We have no option but to stay involved and committed.
Dec 15, 2003 Speech to CFR

"The consensus was the same, from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration," she said. "It was the same intelligence belief that our allies and friends around the world shared.
"But I think that in the case of the administration, they really believed it. They really thought they were right, but they didn't let enough sunlight into their thinking process to really have the kind of debate that needs to take place when a serious decision occurs like that." (They believed it, but her people didn't??)
April 2004 Larry King

It's regrettable that the security needs have increased so much. On the other hand, I think you can look at the country as a whole and see that there are many parts of Iraq that are functioning quite well," Clinton said.
It is time for the President to stop serving up platitudes and present us with a plan for finishing this war with success and honor – not a rigid timetable that terrorists can exploit, but a public plan for winning and concluding the war.
Nov 2005 Letter To Constituents

nor do I think it is smart strategy to set a date certain.
June 2006 TBA

"Now it's time to say the redeployment should start in 90 days or the Congress will revoke authorization for this war,"
Feb 2007

[lyonn]

26. Ugh, those comments are really disturbing

The video speaks volumns about her bottom line view for invading Iraq. She was gung-ho. This makes me wonder how will she as president get us out of Iraq. Will she pull a Nixon? I voted for Nixon believing he would get us out of Viet Nam soon and with dignity???

[papau]

4. The NIE had never stopped saying Saddam was a WMD threat - but the inspectors

were controlling the situation - and as Hillary noted - we have used the threat of war before to gain a diplomatic result - in this case the result was putting the inspectors back in - and it worked

The war is on Bush - no one else.

[DainBramaged]

6. Thank you for being the first to say that here

It will be passed over. Hating Hillary has no bounds.

[snooper2]

8. Bullshit

We were sitting on the edge of our chairs watching that Senate vote...When the WAR RESOLUTION PASSED we knew we were going to war...all of our protests didn't matter, BUSH WAS GOING IN!

Now if your going to tell me that Hillary didn't know that, then she must be the most ignorant Senator to have ever served.

[havocmom]

10. BINGO

If we knew it was a bogus pretext, and we did, a US Senator should have been able to see the facts.

The vote was more about looking tough than anything.

[snooper2]

11. yep

nt

[hfojvt]

21. not to mention that while we were protesting and even afterwards

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4329475&mesg_id=4329855

Hillary was on TV on 27 Feb saying "Saddam has refused to co-operate with the inspectors"

I was a little bit naive though too. I thought that it would take a provocation from Saddam in order for Bush to start the war. I was quite sure that Saddam would do something provacative just to look tough. Yet Bush went ahead and started the war without any provocation whatsoever. It did not help that people like Hillary and Powell were basically manufacturing provocations out of the slightest pretext.

[Carolina]

22. Exactly. Robert Byrd (D-WVA) gave an eloquent

and impassioned speech on October 10, 2002 about the rush to war, what the resolution meant and what the arrogant administration would do with it. He warned his Senate colleagues and twenty-three other Senators got it right when the votes were cast on October 11, 2002.

HRC's vote was one of political calculation, moral cowardice, poor leadership and horrible judgment.

She and her supporters can spin like tops, but all their words can never change history or the truth!

[havocmom]

12. voted yes on IWR and no on Levin amendment that would have given UN more say

and given inspectors more time

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3140690

The war is NOT just bush's. Back in the day or IWR, we still has some vestiges of democracy. Those who rubber stamped bush/cheney war for profits pretty much dealt the killing blow to that though.

[pampango]

23. She voted for the IWR because she had presidential ambitions and had to appear "tough".

Kerry, Edwards and Dodd did the same thing. Wellstone, Feingold, Kennedy and Boxer voted against it and none of them apparently had presidential ambitions.

I doubt that any who voted against it believe that the war it totally on Bush or they would have just said WTF and voted for it like Clinton, Kerry, Edwards and Dodd.

[SammyWinstonJack]

24. True that.

[Arkansas Granny]

7. Bush didn't really care one way or another if Saddam was a

threat or if he had WMD's. Bush wanted to invade Iraq and the WMD angle gave him all the reason he needed to go ahead. If he had cared, he would have let the UN weapons inspectors finish their job and the whole world would have known that there were no WMD's in Iraq. However, if he had done that, there would have been no reason for the invasion.

[underpants]

15. Looking back isn't it odd how the inspectors were actually THERE

actually in the country and ever so slowly actually inspecting (as rummy slowly release 5 or so of his "top 100" sites) and still the connection was completely missed. I myself was asked by a friend "You don't think they have WMD?!?!?" and I said "Not to the extent that Colin Powell said..." which was a bullshit political answer I KNEW THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY. That propaganda stuff works. Amazing they were IN THERE and all we heard was "Why are they so incompetent?"

Amazing sadly amazing.

[Arkansas Granny]

30. I was really surprised when the US inspectors didn't find WMD's

after we invaded. If you recall, the UN offered to send their inspectors back in, but Bush refused them saying that we would handle it ourselves. I was just certain that we would "discover" the WMD's that had been missed by the UN inspectors so Bush could use that to justify his reasons for the invasion.

[Stephanie]

13. NYC, February 15 2003 >

I was there, freezing my ass off, with a million others. It was the biggest protest I've ever seen in my life. Hillary Clinton ignored us.

[lyonn]

27. Thanks for trying Stephanie

You and millions of others deserve our gratitude.

[CyberPieHole]

14. Obama has said he doesn't KNOW how he would have voted for the IWR...

"I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports.What would I have done? I don't know." Obama 7.26.04

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/10/obama-on-the-wa.html

[Egnever]

16. I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.'

your convenient cut doesnt change what he said.

[Zodiak]

17. And it is that kind of argumentation on DU that makes me sick

Cutting out of context just to prop up the Queen of the DLC...against another Democrat! But boy do they want party unity when it comes down to election time should their candidate get the nod.

The hypocrisy, the dishonest argumentation.....it is seriously disillusioning me with our side of the aisle. If we can't act any better than Karl Rove on the Democratic side, then there is no hope for this country.

[lyonn]

29. After reading the entire article(s) it sounds like he was being

thoughtful and intelligent. Who "knew" for sure he had no WMDs? There were plenty of people in the know that had serious doubts about Saddam being a danger to his neighbors or us. Those people were shut out of the picture. A few had a little airtime but their msg. got drowned out by the beat of the war drums.

[Kashka-Kat]

18. Powell's UN testimony was discredited by the British press days before IWR vote

If I knew that then congress knew that and had an obligation to put the brakes on the rush to war. Both the lying and the enabling of the liars occurred concurrently - one could have not happened without the other.

[H2O Man]

19. A dangerous group .....

that photo should send chills down all of our spines!

Nominated.

[Carolina]

20. Thank you

K&R

I am so tired of revisionists who say the public was behind the war, IWR is so yesterday and other such crap!

Many of us knew what IWR meant and opposed a war against innocents in Iraq as early as summer 2002.

Thanks again for this; I'm bookmarking it! :hi::hi::hi:

[VotesForWomen]

25. bottom line: obama was not there to vote. hillary 'spoke' against pre-emptive war, so what? as usual

obama folks project onto him whatever IWR vote they want to.

[ErnestoG]

28. HA! And then she VOTED FOR IT.

Guess you Hillarbots keep forgetting that.

[rhett o rick]

32. She voted just as Bush wanted her to. She gave her support to him a madman. nm

[rhett o rick]

31. I well remember the time. I was so broken hearted that Democrats turned their

backs on us and choose to go with G.W. Bush. Their vote was what he wanted. That alone should have been enough for them to vote no. But no, they turned their backs on us. We knew at the time that it was lies, so either they were fooled by Bush or they wanted to support him. The vote that struck the blow that I feel killed America as we knew it.