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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:21 PM Original message |
MoveOn is supposed to fight against Repubs, Not tear apart the Dem Party. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Makes you wonder ... n/t |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. They knife their Friends in the back |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Move On was never a grass roots organization. They were a |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Everybody who endorses Obama sucks! |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Nope. John Kerry rocks. Obama has a stable of wonderful endorsements. |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Turning on people who stuck their neck out for you |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. Perhaps that's because MoveOn isn't pushing any party's |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Of course, but I am beginning to think they are a shill for the Republican Party. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Tear apart? 70% of their members voted for one candidate |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Their endorsement is one thing. But they are going to actively campaign against |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Move on is asking their members to volunteer for Obama. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. It is fine for them to ask. I have heard from reputable sources they will have anti hillary ads. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Oh brother |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. Given the history of MoveOn's ads, this could be a boon for Hillary |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. What?! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. I'd wait for a verification on that. |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. We aren't allowed to argue symmantics with the hive. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I do not think they should have endorsed anyone. Even Hillary. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. It's a primary |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
49. "70% of their members voted for one candidate". I don't think so. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yup -- organizations like them and sitting Federal-level elected officials shouldn't endorse |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Yes I agree. It is a no win for the Democratic Party. |
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shaniqua6392 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. Take your name off their mailing list. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I took my name off of the mailing list and canceled my membership. |
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mohc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Did you take your name off their list... |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I took it off when I received the ballot. Before the results were announced. |
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mohc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Fair enough |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. I didn't even get a ballot - |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. When they sent me the inviation to vote |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
16. Very childish and petty for Democrats to remove their names from mailing lists |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. It is not childish to stop participating in an organization that you no longer agree with. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. And if they'd endorsed YOUR candidate, would you still be acting this way? Of course not. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Yes. I cancelled my subscription before they endorsed. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
23. Sour grapes. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. And you are proving my point. I do not have sour grapes. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. It was fairly clear that they were going to be endorsing Obama. The fact that |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Oh dear. Do you think that they are helping the Democratic Party? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. No, they're helping their chosen candidate. Just like every single endorsement. I understand |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
29. Before going forward with the endorsement process... |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Because it serves no purpose. It divides the Democratic Party & the endorsement |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. It does serve a purpose. It bolsters Obama's campaign. And frankly, if Hillary wins the nom, |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I would hope that she would ask them to NOT take a visible role. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. As would I, as I would with Obama's campaign in the GE. MoveOn self-marginalized rapidly. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. You know, most of what MoveOn does in campaigns... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
40. sorry you did not like the results. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I did not like anything about it. |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
44. Congratulations |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. Making an endorsement is not "tearing apart" the Dem party. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. They are *not* simply making an endorsement. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. that is the biggest concern |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
51. True. I quit. |
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