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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:21 PM
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They're spinning us about McCain being hated by the right
and they're doing it to make him more acceptable to the independents. The independents are more likely to vote for someone the right is supposedly against. But have you thought about who is pushing this meme? Limbaugh and Tucker. Neither of them do anything for honest motives.

He may not be the favorite of the right, but on all the issues they really care about (especially Iraq and taxes) he has flip flopped to their side. They will all support him, all the while trying to make it seem like he is a centrist.

In the meantime, the corporate media will insist on calling him a straight talker when he is anything but. All to appeal to the independents who don't really pay attention.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:22 PM
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1. You're absolutely right!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:22 PM
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2. I know....been watching this act for years now.
McCain is treated like a moderate and a maverick. The two words the press will shove down people's throats for the next year.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:23 PM
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3. Yup, it's the old "straight-talking maverick" game
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 07:24 PM by rocknation
Which he'll win by picking a "traditional" GOP hardliner to "balance the ticket." Why would they hate McCain? He's a Bush clone extraordinaire.

:headbang:
rocknation
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:23 PM
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4. I HRC is the nominee, Rush and the reich wingers will line up behind McCain,
singin' his praises about being a war hero.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:23 PM
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5. they don't like him but they'll support him
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 07:31 PM by onenote
because winning matters to them.

A message a few here might want to take to heart when they play their "If (name of their favorite candidate) doesn't get the nomination I won't vote for the other person" game.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:26 PM
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7. No because he's anti-abortion, THAT"S all that matters!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:24 PM
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6. nah
go to FreeRepublic - they really hate him!
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:29 PM
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9. No thanks
I'll take your word for it. Unfortunately though, they are a tiny, tiny sliver of the electorate. I don't think this McCain hatred exists in the sane world.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:31 PM
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11. The extreme RWing hate him but they despise Hillary Clinton
& Barack Obama even more. The RWing will unite & vote for their Candidate, Mitt or McLame.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:39 PM
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14. Without a doubt.
Anyone who doubts this is fooling themselves.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:28 PM
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8. no they're not.
socons detest him with a burning hate. Not quite sure why because he's anti-abortion, but check out any conservative website.
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:30 PM
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10. No, they're not. They hate him.
They see in him a traitorous wretch. They think he's a liberal in sheep's clothing.

White male news casters love him because, well, he's one of them. He's a kick-ass-take-names-straight-shootin'-war-hero-annoyed-by-the-crazy-Evangelicals-doesn't-mind-a-central-non-intrusive-central-government-cut-taxes-for-the-wealthy-possibly-pro-choicer-or-at-least-not-bat-sit-crazy-constitutional-amendment-pro-life-America-fuck-yeah-my-friends-blah-blah-blah-Republican.
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toadzilla Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:32 PM
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12. Part of me thinks your dead on.
and the other part of me thinks that they know they CANT win this year, and theyre making him the fall guy.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:34 PM
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13. Indeed, and he'll do ANYTHING to be president. That's why he plays
"maverick" to the media--then plops down in his Senate chair and wacks off to he picture of Dick Cheney.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:43 PM
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15. I forgot to mention that Ann Coulter is also spreading this
meme. Limpballs, tucker, coulter...anyone notice a pattern here? Pure propaganda.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:44 PM
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16. I think about 10% of the very far Right truly do hate him
but they will vote for him in the General.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:01 PM
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17. You are correct. We are being lulled into accepting a belief that
is not likely. That would cause people to put their guard down and not vote because it gives a false impression of reality.
Kinda of like Tom Brady, of the NE Patriots, making everybody think he was injured and vulnerable when he walked around on the cast. :dem:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:47 PM
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18. Bingo
And it is not hard for me to believe that the rightwing and the corporate media are working together on this.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:22 PM
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19. *
for the week-end crowd.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:24 PM
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20. Now that's something I never thought about
You could be on to something. :)
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:27 PM
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21. Thanks!
I just keep looking at the low-life rightwingers that are pushing this idea. They don't exactly score highly on the trust-o-meter.
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:47 PM
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22. This election is about the Supreme court ...
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 12:48 PM by JorgeTheGood
the right will come out in droves to vote for whoever is their candidate and probably strongly enough that losing a few independents won't matter much.

They know there will be 3 SCOTUS replacements in the next 4 years and if they get 3 more
conservatives on the court (like Roberts and Alito) they will have absolute control of not only the court but of the executive and legislative branches.

Given a nearly 100% conservative court, the republicans, (as weak as they will be in both houses) will be able to take all legislation they don't agree with, to the SCOTUS and get it overturned. The same will apply to anything issued by the president (presumming a dem president) such as signing statements, executive orders, vetos and appointments.

This isn't tinfoil ... it's reality and to think the republicans won't back McCain is very foolish on the part of the dems (or anyone else).

Also keep in mind that Florida will have gay marriage on the ballot so there goes that state. Not a chance a dem will take it. Ohio appears to be trying to turn blue but that state too will remain red as will Indiana (guarantee this one) and probably Missouri and West Virginia and even Virginia. Therefore, the dems need to concentrate on what they will do to keep every one of the known blue states take some of those red states and not so much on who will be running on the republican ticket as that will be a moot point for the republican voters.

They will be in a 'take no prisoners' mode big time.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:07 PM
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23. I agree
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:09 PM
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24. I agree. Everyone should remember that if their candidate of choice loses!
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