Extrapolated results if MoveOn's 3.2 million members had voted: Obama 2.25 million, Hillary 950,000

[ProSense]

70.4% supported Obama to a little over 29.6% for Hillary.


MoveOn will gain big from this endorsement because it will mobilize their members

[billbuckhead]

1. Ask President Dean how that worked out for him?

[thunder rising]

3. You mean the man that built the platform that Queen Hillary stands on?

[billbuckhead]

8. Why do you call her a Queen? Sexist maybe?

[ima_sinnic]

14. um, would you prefer that we call her King Hillary? (nt)

[ProSense]

7. How did the Kerry endorsement work out?

Obama, and he broke a record

[emilyg]

2. I opted out from the.

A lot of people will.

[tandem5]

6. me too, but no worries its only 30% of their support that they're shedding! nt

[kikiek]

9. Me too. They have no way of knowing what the final tally would be.

[ima_sinnic]

4. exactly -- MoveOn is its members & those who voted did so overwhelmingly for BO

what's so hard to grasp about that? isn't that how "democracy" works?

MoveOn is a Political Action Committee. PACs do things like mobilizing their members to support particular candidates.

oh! the horror!! :sarcasm:

[madrchsod]

5. hell did`t know they voted!

guess i`d better read my emails

[Ewellian]

10. I didn't get to vote...I didn't see the email until

after they had announced the endorsement. I had to work 11 hours yesterday and caught up on my email this evening. I immediately unsubscribed and told them why.

[Beaverhausen]

11. I'm a member and I choose not to vote- they didn't include my choice

and I'm pretty sure that's why a lot of their membership didn't vote, too.

[ProSense]

12. So you'd be among the 950,000 voting for Hillary. That's the point. n/t

[Straight Shooter]

13. I didn't vote because I don't want Hillary associated with the General Betray Us ad.

I even cautioned in another thread yesterday that if someone really supports their candidate, do not vote for them in that poll. It's ammunition for the right wing.

Now, whether he likes it or not, Barack will be associated with the most inflammatory ad in recent history.

Hillary did not vote to condemn MoveOn. She spoke up, defended the First Amendment, and voted against condemning MoveOn, which generated a lot of flak against her. Barack did not vote.

[Metric System]

15. I think you're right. A commentator on CNN tonight mentioned that you can bet that this

will give plenty of ammunition to those on the right should Obama make it to the general election.

[Maribelle]

16. That is false logic for this case. You cannot use extrapolation.

What is not false logic is that over 90% did not vote for Obama. Some chose on purpose not to vote because they did not want MoveOn to make a choice. You cannot possible determine this factor to add to an extrapolation.

Give it up.

[ProSense]

17. Well, more than 97% didn't vote for Hillary. So what's your point? n/t

[MADem]

18. Fuzzy math.

:eyes:

[ProSense]

19. Not at all! n/t

[MADem]

20. Yes, it is. You're assuming proportionality without any evidence of same. NT

[ProSense]

21. You are assuming no proportionality without evidence. I have the results. n/t

[MADem]

23. What a con job, there, ConSense!

You sure you aren't on Bush's economic team? They've got the same math skills!

[ProSense]

24. Ah, resort to name calling when argument falls apart! n/t

[MADem]

25. That was a riff on your name -- pro/con? But if you want to take it as an insult, go ahead.

I can't stop you, even though all it was, was a comment on your paltry logic and your pathetic effort to shop a nonsensical hypothesis.

Your argument sucks and isn't backed up by facts. How's that for plain speaking?


Have a swell day, now, ya heah?

:hi:

[suston96]

22. Bad extrapolation. F in statistics.

The "voters" were invited by e-mail. Thus, they were selected - probably by age group.

I have asked several times for demographics regarding moveon.org membership, especially that age group.