Hillary Talks Up the 'Dream Ticket'....Strategically.

[jefferson_dem]

Fuck that. The ONLY Dream Ticket will have Obama at the top. Period!

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Hillary Talks Up the 'Dream Ticket'
February 01, 2008 6:19 PM

Sen. Hillary Clinton was interviewed on the Tavis Smiley Show and guess what -- she's talking up the Clinton/Obama "dream ticket."

Doing that allows her to convey to voters that maybe they don't have to choose between her and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois. Maybe they can have them both!

“I think last night on the stage seeing the two of us was just so exciting for so many people,” she tells Smiley. “I can’t tell you how many calls and e-mails I’ve gotten from people who never cared about politics that much but they are just thrilled at that.”

Clips from the show will be available HERE.

Clinton supporters are playing up this "dream ticket." Obama supporters are not.

Make no mistake -- the smiles, hugs, and chivalry on display for voters last night belie an intense dislike the two candidates have for one another.

Obama resents the race-baiting campaigning the Clintons have engaged in.

The Clintons see Obama as standing in her way, and belittling their legacy.

Enemies have joined together before -- witness JFK and VP LBJ.

But, as Donna Brazile says, this isn't a dream ticket -- it's a fantasy ticket.

"There is blood on the ground," Brazile says.

We're taking a look at this tonight on World News with Charles Gibson.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/hillary-talks-u.html

[Cha]

1. There's too much blood

on the ground and in Iraq.

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. Another mean, hateful post.

Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:

[jenmito]

3. It's obvious that that's exactly what she's doing.

[jefferson_dem]

11. These whiny Hillaryphiles and their feigned outrage are beyond silly.

n/t

[jefferson_dem]

6. It's mean to say I won't be satisfied with Obama as Hillary's veep?

It's hateful to call Hillary and her supporters out for trying to hoodwink voters into believing they don't actually have to choose...real change?

Baloney.

[TheDeathadder]

25. Not sure about that...

but calling HRC supporters Hillaryphiles I think lacks the image of change and unity the Obama people might be going for. Clinton and Obama are on the side, team and direction, the Democrats.

[jefferson_dem]

28. Thanks for your concern but ...

it was meant to be descriptive of those who love Hillary. Simple as that. There are many tacky labels posted here on DU to get worked up about. This is not one of them.

[TheDeathadder]

30. My point is I call

the Obama people Obama people and Clinton people Clinton people. At town hall meetings we try to stay away from names that are anti-productive.

To this subject...Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton would be an amazing ticket, some to inspire to and not turn into a drudge report type clip.

[Bongo Prophet]

38. I notice that you have een here less than a month, so first I say welcome to DU

Please consider Obamaphile or Hillaryphile are RELATIVELY benign, as -phile only means "fondness for" - compared to "Obamaton" or "Hillbot" and all the others, it is not so bad.

In general, I do agree that we should at least be discussing (even arguing is fine) differences in policy or even leadership qualities, without going down the slippery slope of childish namecalling and tit for tat insults. Signal to noise ratio.

Again, welcome. Please stack around and help to raise the discourse here, and if you get tired of the mosh pit of the GDP go to GD or the subgroups where you can have more involved and substantive discussions. There is community here on DU, not just the rancor of GDP.

[TheDeathadder]

39. Thanks for the welcome

I've actually been visiting this site for years. I was very active in 2004 and 2006. ;) This is a new profile.

I look forward to having great discussions with you all during my 2008 visit.

[ErnestoG]

10. Mean,Hateful = Not voting for Hillary

Wow, you are so DEEP.

[msongs]

20. your sociopath serial killer icon. now that is deep...in blood nt

[AX10]

4. Another hate filled post.

[jefferson_dem]

9. You would know.

See my post above... :)

[AX10]

22. You should know about hate.

All you Obamanation sheep say is how bad Hillary is.

[bidenista]

5. jake tapper seems to have serious issues with hillary

First trying to make her husband look like he was saying something he wasn't, now trying to paint Hillary as a scheming race-baiter.

Maybe Jake should go see a shrink about that little delusional preoccupation of his.

[lvx35]

7. I don't consider anybody who says "there's blood on the ground" my friend at this point.

Most mature Democrats have seen "divide and conquer" tactics used time and time again. You have to have been an adolescent in 2000 to miss what Nader did to the left, which got us in this mess. I for one am in no hurry to repeat that mistake by playing up the "bad blood" between Clinton and Obama. Hillary's fondness for Obama, or at least her readiness to work with him, reflects her maturity and makes me like her more as a candidate.

[DJ13]

8. As her national poll #s are falling to parity, she AND her MSM buds will talk about this more

It started right after the debate, the day it was reported Obama was only 4% behind nationally after being down by 20+% a few weeks back.

I bet we hear this a lot more in the next few days.

[scheming daemons]

15. The Clinton campaign is trying to send this message to Edwards supporters and undecideds:

"You don't have to choose between us. You can choose BOTH of us! (Just make sure you put the 'more experienced' one at the top) We know you like Barack... WE DO TOO! So much so that we'll give him the second-banana spot to appease all of you!"

What they don't get is that the great appeal to Obama among MANY people in this country is that he is a DIFFERENT kind of politician. If he joins Clinton's campaign as an "understudy", he has sold out.

Get over it, Clintonistas.... Either Clinton or Obama will be heading up the ticket... but NEITHER will be the other's VP.

Everything that Obama brings to the table gets washed away if he joins her ticket. The Obama vote *IS* the Anti-Clinton/Bush vote.

[rusty quoin]

19. I disagree. We are the Democratic Party.

We make it better in steps. This all or nothing is unrealistic. Listen to the Thom Hartmann Show.

FDR did not run on a Progressive platform, nor did his relative Teddy. But they became Progressive. We the people tell them what do do.

[bunnies]

12. Clinton / Obama kills Obama...

but breathes life into Clinton. No one in their right mind would want to be VP to a Clintons white house.

[calteacherguy]

13. That's exactly right. nt

[bunnies]

26. That ticket would suck the wind out of the Obama movement.

If Hillary tries to capitalize on it, Obamamania will shrivel up and die.

And IF Obama were to take the VP slot in a Clintons WH... he would do it at the expense of the thing people love about him.

Even Oboama doesnt make me want to vote for Clintons. And if he were to team up with her, that would tell me that I was wrong about him. What a sad day that would be.

[scheming daemons]

18. Obama/Clinton kills Obama too...

...all of the Indies and moderate Repugs that he'd bring in would be lost.

As an Obama supporter, I don't want Hillary or Bill anywhere near the ticket. The "fresh start" and "change in Washington" can't occur with a Clinton on the ticket.

Obama needs to think differently. Like Bill did way back when he was the 46-year-old "man from Hope" and teamed up with big Al.

Obama is now running Bill's 1992 race.... and Bill and Hillary don't know how to compete against that. Obama has become the new "man from hope" and Bill and Hillary are the establishment.

[bunnies]

27. Youre right.

The Clintons are Toxic to an Obama ticket in any way shape or form. I have to believe he knows it though. He must.

[papau]

14. Obama resents the race-baiting campaigning ? - He began the race card game with MLK "hurt" because

Hillary dared to give a civics lesson and note that getting progress required both a great movement leader and a President to sign into law the change desired.

And Obama's race card has worked well for him - moving a small win in SC into a landslide - and with that momentum closing and possibly leading on 2/5. Meanwhile as he plays victim he has his supporters claim it is Hillary claiming to be the victim. He is a very good politician - and it doesn't hurt to have the media behind you.

"Who benefits" has been an analytic approach beginning with the Greeks and Romans - seems to work well

[earthlover]

35. the Clintons' diminishing MLK's importance was one of the singularly stupid things ever!

It was not race baiting for others to point this out. It was just plain idiotic to say it took a president to get what MLK spoke about done. It was also moronic because it wasn't the President who passed the Civil Rights Act....it was....duh....CONGRESS!

Sometimes I wonder why more intelligent people are not the ones running for President.

[Metric System]

36. I suggest you watch this Bill Moyers clip:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/064146.php

[rusty quoin]

16. I talked to my dad tonight, a Massachusetts Liberal,

(I'm in Indiana, but am a Mass Liberal too), and he and I agree that they would make a great combination. He is the inspiration, and she is the practician. They compliment each other. I am not going to say who I think should be in front, because I don't know.

[scheming daemons]

21. Won't happen....

Clinton is a drag on Obama in the general election if Obama gets the nomination.

If Clinton gets the nomination, no doubt she will ask Barack. But the appeal of Obama is lost if he's not the top dog on the ticket.

If JFK was merely the VP candidate in 1960 to an "elder, experienced statesman" like Johnson... Nixon would've won in 1960.

[rusty quoin]

23. That's an excellent point. I will think about that more. n/t

[loveangelc]

17. belittling her legacy?????????? are they serious????

[Raejeanowl]

24. I Don't Think They Can Work Together

One of the "little" things that worries me about Obama is his obvious personal animosity toward Hillary Clinton. You cannot mistake the contempt in his face when he looks at her. He cannot or will not make an effort to hide it. I have seen photo after photo of him sneering at her or making no effort to conceal a smirk. He has no poker face.

If he cannot keep his personal animus under wraps, how would this serve him in a diplomatic capacity?

[JackORoses]

29. they are scared to death... Obama has the elusive Big MO!

you heard it here first.

[THUNDER HANDS]

31. That's like the Backstreet Boys saying they'll have the Beatles open for them

[Lucinda]

32. It sounds to me like she meant that the next POTUS would be a woman or a black man.

And that's what people were excited about. Breaking the ceiling.

[TheDeathadder]

33. I hope to God

it's a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket!! I know the drudge report type stories that slam them both, and the bad blood storyline that the media has built heat on. But seeing it mentioned at the debate while they were shoulder to shoulder made me see the light.

[TwilightGardener]

34. I said this last night, that talk of them sharing the ticket at the debate

was meant to diminish Obama into the number-two guy--Hillary's hoping people will elect her under the unspoken promise of getting him as VP, when both he and she know he's never going to be her VP.

[synesthesia]

37. hrm

Thing is, she's not going to pick Obama as VP when she wins. She is picking Evan Bayh. Obama would be too much of a co-star, and having both a female and an african american might be seen as a strategic risk for a general election for Clinton.

So people are going to be very outraged when this happens. But too late.

[maddiejoan]

40. If you actually watched the Tavis Interview

you'd realize the article you posted is complete BS.

Tavis brought up the question, and Clinton did not even attempt to bring up a Clinton/Obama Ticket